Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70629 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#66909 Jan 11, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Good Morning!
The Bible, New Revised Standard, may be the best, is contradictory. Handed down in oral tradition for a century or more?
Historical research is frustrating, so much in lost.
Life may be frustrating for secularists in the US. The country is religious and prayer in school may be in place in rural areas.
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Are most atheists actually agnostics?
How can one know that God does not exist?
Peace!
Since there is no evidence god exists, why even consider the possibility that he does?
Lincoln

United States

#66910 Jan 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Any particular claim can be verified, if there is evidence then the evidence can be tested, if there is no evidence it is safe, and sane, to assume it is nothing but mythology.
Grad student in history NYU.
Use evidence for World War II research.
Your opinions noted and respected.
You seem one of the best on the thread

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#66911 Jan 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Nothing is "self evident," as I pointed out to you. That is just a cop-out, an excuse, a way to tell anyone who disagrees with you, in spite of them having all the actual evidence supporting their assertions, that they are wrong, and only idiots, I mean die hard, total buffoons, think that can actually serve as evidence for anything.
Imagine if a physicist said that quantum theory is self evident. Or if electricity was just called "self evident?" We'd never have computers.
Exactly. They cannot prove their claims so they would rather just cite themselves as proof of those claims.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#66912 Jan 12, 2013
What if we made Ozzy the Pope?:)
KittenKoder wrote:
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No way, goth is about "not conforming" and an organized religion is the ultimate in conformity. Now way they'd recruit true goths.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#66913 Jan 12, 2013
And make him chief rabbi too.
No more "shalom", lots more "SHARON????!!!!"
Givemeliberty wrote:
What if we made Ozzy the Pope?:)
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Lincoln

United States

#66914 Jan 12, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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Exactly. They cannot prove their claims so they would rather just cite themselves as proof of those claims.
Greater the claim
the greater the evidence nede.

Do you feel the US will ever become a secular nation?
Lincoln

United States

#66915 Jan 12, 2013
Greater the claim
the greater the evidence neded.
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Do you feel the US will ever become a secular nation?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#66916 Jan 12, 2013
And crazy train would be the hymn :)
Thinking wrote:
And make him chief rabbi too.
No more "shalom", lots more "SHARON????!!!!"
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Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#66917 Jan 12, 2013
Which is why we need extraordinary evidence for the extraordinary claim of god.

Want to discuss the US going secular over a stack of foreclosed church deeds?:) They are closing at an all time high rate and are dirt cheap :)
Lincoln wrote:
Greater the claim
the greater the evidence neded.
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Do you feel the US will ever become a secular nation?
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#66918 Jan 12, 2013
Not a role model though. Sharon used to come into our local florists with very large sunglasses to cover her bruises.:(
Givemeliberty wrote:
And crazy train would be the hymn :)
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Lincoln

United States

#66919 Jan 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Which is why we need extraordinary evidence for the extraordinary claim of God.
Want to discuss the US going secular over a stack of foreclosed church deeds?:) They are closing at an all time high rate and are dirt cheap :)
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Easter Holiday approaching with all US Public School closing for a week to observe this.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#66920 Jan 12, 2013
I like easter because in the UK we get the Friday and Monday off work but won't be going near a church. In fact very few in the UK go to church but we still get the two days off. Result!
Lincoln wrote:
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Easter Holiday approaching with all US Public School closing for a week to observe this.
Lincoln

United States

#66921 Jan 12, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I like easter because in the UK we get the Friday and Monday off work but won't be going near a church. In fact very few in the UK go to church but we still get the two days off. Result!
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UK belief in God much lower than in the US

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#66922 Jan 12, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Greater the claim
the greater the evidence nede.
Do you feel the US will ever become a secular nation?
It was a secular nation. The Christian right in this country would like to make it a theocratic oligarchy.

Some other modern secular nations would include Sweden, Denmark, Japan, etc. Modern secular nations routinely score better on livability indicators such as low felony rates, low teenage pregnancy, high math & sciences graduates, etc. The U.S. isn't one of these.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#66923 Jan 12, 2013
I know, we have so much to be thankful for.

We also get Dec 26th off work as well as the two easter days.
Lincoln wrote:
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UK belief in God much lower than in the US
John

United States

#66924 Jan 12, 2013
Well, you loons did not disappoint. You, once again did not provide one accountable position of belief you were willing to debate. You failed to produce one iota of evidence that meets your requirements. You have nothing but ridiculous assertions even questioning Jesus as a historical figure. Your bigotry has diseased your brains. I will stay on point as always. Your fishing expeditions are merely ways to steer the narrative from your nothing. I asked a simple question. When you cowards are ready we can debate all your ridiculous ideas.

I think I caught an attempt at machismo in one of your posts liberty. I don't really read them all, but I do skim looking for an accountable position that is never there. Thanks for the chuckle though. Liberal atheists are such cowards.
Lincoln

United States

#66925 Jan 12, 2013
John wrote:
Well, you loons did not disappoint. You, once again did not provide one accountable position of belief you were willing to debate. You failed to produce one iota of evidence that meets your requirements. You have nothing but ridiculous assertions even questioning Jesus as a historical figure. Your bigotry has diseased your brains. I will stay on point as always. Your fishing expeditions are merely ways to steer the narrative from your nothing. I asked a simple question. When you cowards are ready we can debate all your ridiculous ideas.
I think I caught an attempt at machismo in one of your posts liberty. I don't really read them all, but I do skim looking for an accountable position that is never there. Thanks for the chuckle though. Liberal atheists are such cowards.
You tend to use "I" a great deal.

"I think I caught..."

"I do skim..."

"I asked a..... "

You seem a bit self important?
Atheists may be bored with you?
Lincoln

United States

#66926 Jan 12, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I know, we have so much to be thankful for.
We also get Dec 26th off work as well as the two easter days.
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Your taxes support Lords and Ladies, Dukes and other titled nonentities.

Established Church?

UK provides PBS with excellent programs
John

United States

#66927 Jan 12, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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You tend to use "I" a great deal.
"I think I caught..."
"I do skim..."
"I asked a..... "
You seem a bit self important?
Atheists may be bored with you?
No, they are just stumped bigots. I notice you have nothing as well.
John

United States

#66928 Jan 12, 2013
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 64,200 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

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