Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70638 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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postscriptt

Placitas, NM

#66648 Jan 4, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Stop trying to change the subject. Why should anyone accept god as anything more than the product of someone's vivid imagination?
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Do you accept the idea that the big bang was a random ocurrence?
Lincoln

United States

#66649 Jan 4, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Nope, if that was the case then why do scientists out the frauds so willingly? Even before being asked they will publish reports of the frauds. If what you said was true, they would never want people know of the frauds simply out of fear of being outed themselves.
Yes, agree!, a good point !

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#66650 Jan 4, 2013
postscriptt wrote:
You wouldn't of course, but others who do perceive that evidence would have reason to believe a god exists.
If the evidence was not objective, then exactly how would they go about ruling out the idea that they had imagined the evidence?

Since: Mar 11

United States

#66651 Jan 4, 2013
Now you're just stalling pussyassbitch. Your question is completely irrelevant in relation to mine. So again coward, why should anyone accept god as anything more than the product of someone's vivid imagination?
postscriptt wrote:
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Do you accept the idea that the big bang was a random ocurrence?
postscriptt

Placitas, NM

#66652 Jan 4, 2013
Drew Smith wrote:
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If the evidence was not objective, then exactly how would they go about ruling out the idea that they had imagined the evidence?
Aside from the fact that design in nature (specified complexity) necessitates a designer - billions of people believe a god(s) exist.
postscriptt

Placitas, NM

#66653 Jan 4, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Now you're just stalling pussyassbitch. Your question is completely irrelevant in relation to mine. So again coward, why should anyone accept god as anything more than the product of someone's vivid imagination?
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In other words, Mr. Gump, you refuse to answer the question.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66654 Jan 4, 2013
postscriptt wrote:
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Really? What evidence does science have that supports the notion that something comes from nothing?
Well, we're here, aren't we? Our very existence is proof that something had to come from nothing somehow. The how is the question, you avoid the question with a non-answer, I'd rather wait until someone has a real answer before even considering it valid.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66655 Jan 4, 2013
postscriptt wrote:
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Do you accept the idea that the big bang was a random ocurrence?
Why not? What we perceive as random rarely is, just because we don't know all the variables doesn't mean it was ever truly random. Rolling the dice is not random, we just cannot calculate all the factors, so we perceive it as random. Your mindset is so limited you cannot even accept this, to you even drawing a card from a deck is random.

There is a principle, a law actually, in probability that states the more often your make the prediction without even knowing the variables, your probability of making a correct prediction increases, simply by changing your prediction after eliminating one possibility. It's a very well understood law actually, and proves that nothing is truly random.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66656 Jan 4, 2013
postscriptt wrote:
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Explain.
A pattern generated by completely natural means will always be matched up by the observer's mind to some commonplace image, either imaginary or real, as a means of compression in the memory system. It's why you can remember anything at all, actually. Without it your brain would run out of space by about 20 years of age. This is also why we experience "de ja vue," which is really the mind skipping the process of recording an event that was similar enough to a past event the two seem identical. It's also the same effect we see in hallucinations, the mind reproduces the same "solid" images that it knows which closely match the random visual and auditory input, thus pink elephants when your visual nerves are seeing blood soaked, and virtually random, images from the alcohol or illness.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#66657 Jan 4, 2013
Your question is irrelevant to mine I mean do you have A.D.D. Or something? But for laughs you answer my question that you keep cowering away from and I will answer your irrelevant off topic question, fair enough?

Now yet again. Why should anyone accept god as anything other than a product of someone's vivid imagination?
postscriptt wrote:
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In other words, Mr. Gump, you refuse to answer the question.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66658 Jan 4, 2013
postscriptt wrote:
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You wouldn't of course, but others who do perceive that evidence would have reason to believe a god exists.
It's called confirmation bias, the same reason that "common sense" is not considered valid evidence in scientific research. It is the exact same notion that leads to monsters under the bed or in the closet, actually. A throwback to the time we first climbed from the trees, the instinct served us then, preventing us from entering shadows we could not see or venturing too close to the edge of a cliff, but now it's simply in the way.
postscriptt

Placitas, NM

#66659 Jan 4, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Well, we're here, aren't we? Our very existence is proof that something had to come from nothing somehow. The how is the question, you avoid the question with a non-answer, I'd rather wait until someone has a real answer before even considering it valid.
Yet another ridiculous assertion from the stupid gallery. Our existence is proof of no such thing! Every effect has a cause (principle of causality). Everything that begins has a cause except the big bang and Darwin's evolution. You would rather fall on a sword than admit that these scientific ideas are conspicuously flawed.
postscriptt

Placitas, NM

#66660 Jan 4, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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A pattern generated by completely natural means will always be matched up by the observer's mind to some commonplace image, either imaginary or real, as a means of compression in the memory system. It's why you can remember anything at all, actually. Without it your brain would run out of space by about 20 years of age. This is also why we experience "de ja vue," which is really the mind skipping the process of recording an event that was similar enough to a past event the two seem identical. It's also the same effect we see in hallucinations, the mind reproduces the same "solid" images that it knows which closely match the random visual and auditory input, thus pink elephants when your visual nerves are seeing blood soaked, and virtually random, images from the alcohol or illness.
Do you moonlight as a televangelist? Your logic is comparable. LOL!
postscriptt

Placitas, NM

#66661 Jan 4, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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It's called confirmation bias, the same reason that "common sense" is not considered valid evidence in scientific research. It is the exact same notion that leads to monsters under the bed or in the closet, actually. A throwback to the time we first climbed from the trees, the instinct served us then, preventing us from entering shadows we could not see or venturing too close to the edge of a cliff, but now it's simply in the way.
The lack of common sense in scientific research would explain why something can come from nothing and dead matter creates life.
postscriptt

Placitas, NM

#66662 Jan 4, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Your question is irrelevant to mine I mean do you have A.D.D. Or something? But for laughs you answer my question that you keep cowering away from and I will answer your irrelevant off topic question, fair enough?
Now yet again. Why should anyone accept god as anything other than a product of someone's vivid imagination?
<quoted text>
Anything logical would be irrelevant to an ape-man. You have the IQ of lint. You prove it every time you post a comment. You'd be out of your depth in a parking lot puddle.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66663 Jan 4, 2013
postscriptt wrote:
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Yet another ridiculous assertion from the stupid gallery. Our existence is proof of no such thing! Every effect has a cause (principle of causality). Everything that begins has a cause except the big bang and Darwin's evolution. You would rather fall on a sword than admit that these scientific ideas are conspicuously flawed.
Not everything has a cause though. Effects and things are two different ... well things.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66664 Jan 4, 2013
postscriptt wrote:
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The lack of common sense in scientific research would explain why something can come from nothing and dead matter creates life.
So then why do you have a myth that states the same thing, only you don't present even a possible method of how it happens?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66665 Jan 4, 2013
postscriptt wrote:
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Anything logical would be irrelevant to an ape-man. You have the IQ of lint. You prove it every time you post a comment. You'd be out of your depth in a parking lot puddle.
In other words he "nailed it."

Since: Mar 11

United States

#66666 Jan 4, 2013
Inability to answer a simple question we see the subject grow agitated and lash out with an ad hom attack.

Stop stalling. It's a simple question and if you are unable to answer that then there is no way you have the mental abilities to discuss more advanced subjects.

So yet again. Why should anyone accept god as anything more than the product of someone's vivid imagination?
postscriptt wrote:
<quoted text>
Anything logical would be irrelevant to an ape-man. You have the IQ of lint. You prove it every time you post a comment. You'd be out of your depth in a parking lot puddle.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#66667 Jan 5, 2013
postscriptt wrote:
Aside from the fact that design in nature (specified complexity) necessitates a designer
Argumentum ad ignorantiam is a logical fallacy.

Furthermore:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specified_comple...
postscriptt wrote:
billions of people believe a god(s) exist.
Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.

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