Atheists on the march in America

There are 70657 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#66449 Dec 28, 2012
John wrote:
I won't play a one sided q and a. Why should I.
Because you're the only one making a claim, in this case, that there is a "prime mover".

If you don't want to be asked any questions, stop claiming that a prime mover exists.
John

United States

#66450 Dec 28, 2012
Nope. The questions you loons cannot answer are myriad. It's comical you don't have one iota of evidence you hood others accountable to. The lies and obfuscation you go for nothing says a lot about you. My claim was merely the result of your intellectual dishonesty. It still stands.

I will debate the evidences and reasons I believe in a prime mover vs any accountable position you choose. Just name it and state your case. Until then, you have nothing but a forum about nothing. That's bat shit crazy.

Still no evidence or accountable position in an atheism forum. Three plus years in!
John

United States

#66451 Dec 28, 2012
Rank the following in terms of most to least likely: always was, prime mover, something from nothing.

Show your work and make sure its repeatable and observable evidence. Welcome to stumpville stumpees.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#66452 Dec 28, 2012
John wrote:
<quoted text>
This is an atheism forum. Show your nothing exists. I'm not here to convert you, but when you attempt to marginalize belief based on nothing more than an agenda I'll play whack a mole.
Still not one example of evidence that meets the standards atheists hold others to. Nothing is their evidence. Atheism exposed 101.
Still trying to get you to debate.
1. If god exists, there is evidence of his existence.

Do you agree with that? Yes or no.

Stump John, ask him to debate.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#66453 Dec 28, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
You refuse to answer any questions, therefore, no one should answer your questions. You are trolling, and you admitted such more than once.
Yeah, John won't answer nor debate.
John

United States

#66454 Dec 28, 2012
No you aren't Rose. You're disbelief is not belief. You are just another bigot.

This is your forum and I asked a simple question on page one that you refuse to answer. Nothing is evidence to you so just present an accountable position and debate. Mine is a prime mover. Yours is nothing. Present evidence of your nothing or ?????. It's clear you have no evidence and fear a debate vs a prime mover.

Silly nothing.
John

United States

#66455 Dec 28, 2012
Still waiting for an example of evidence in this arena atheists hold others to. Seems reasonable but my nothing the lies, deceit, and off topic things they will post to mask what any feel can see is sickening. Although, exposing them is entertaining.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#66456 Dec 28, 2012
John wrote:
Still waiting for an example of evidence in this arena atheists hold others to.
Already provided. The arena is "things that either exist or don't exist".

Where's your evidence for your "prime mover"?

None?

Must not exist.
John

United States

#66457 Dec 28, 2012
Oh, now that's the arena huh? Not the origin of the universe. This has been covered but your only play is avoidance and a steering of the narrative. Wrong turn again though Drew. Where is your evidence of a conscience? Must not exist. We still are discovering new species, but they didn't exist until there was evidence. Stay on your nothing because each time you get off it your a## gets handed to you.

I don't debate nothing Drew. This is your forum. Do you have something you want to debate vs a prime mover? We know you won't dare attempt such a challenge.

Where is the evidence for your rules? Why can't you explain how you quantify the likelihood of always was, something from nothing, or prime mover?

By the way folks, Drewsies evidence was the Eiffel Tower. You can't make this shyte up.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66458 Dec 28, 2012
John wrote:
No you aren't Rose. You're disbelief is not belief. You are just another bigot.
This is your forum and I asked a simple question on page one that you refuse to answer. Nothing is evidence to you so just present an accountable position and debate. Mine is a prime mover. Yours is nothing. Present evidence of your nothing or ?????. It's clear you have no evidence and fear a debate vs a prime mover.
Silly nothing.
Until you have evidence of your "prime mover" then that is the real "nothing."
John

United States

#66459 Dec 29, 2012
Get your nothing out of here!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66460 Dec 29, 2012
John wrote:
Get your nothing out of here!
Why do you keep telling yourself what to do, and then not do it?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#66461 Dec 29, 2012
John wrote:
Oh, now that's the arena huh? Not the origin of the universe.
Why would the rules for evidence be any different, John?

Do we move away from objective, unambiguous evidence merely merely because you can't produce that type of evidence for your "prime mover", John? Is that the reason you won't accept those rules?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#66462 Dec 29, 2012
John wrote:
By the way folks, Drewsies evidence was the Eiffel Tower. You can't make this shyte up.
Aw, John got caught lying yet again. He knows that the Eiffel Tower wasn't offered as evidence, but as something that exists, and then the kinds of evidence that is used to support the claim that it exists.

Poor John. He has to lie just to cover for the fact that he can't produce any evidence for his "prime mover".
postscriptt

Santa Fe, NM

#66463 Dec 29, 2012
Our conscious mind sees with a spectacular but limited scope. It lacks all peripheral vision (and I am using the term metaphorically) because the five senses represent only a relatively flat view of reality, that deals with the most apparent surface.

The five senses are physical extensions of the inner senses. This arrangement is not the exclusive property of humans however - for it is in one way or another a part of each physical species regardless of size, form, or expression. The inner senses provides all species with a method of communication. Monkeys and atoms alike perceive the nature of their surroundings as well as the material they are made of.

The universe did not just magically and randomly come together without design and purpose - lifeless atoms forming willy nilly - dead elements merging indiscriminately. Nor was the world created by some distant objectified supreme being who made it piece by piece in six days - requiring rest on the seventh day like a mere mortal. The universe formed out of what God is. It's the natural extension of DIVINE creativity and INTENT. There was consciousness before there was matter, and not the other way around. It is therefore a gross scientific error to separate matter from consciousness, for consciousness materialized as matter IS physical life. The universe is not finished and complete for (primary consciousness) is always creating itself, or coming into existence.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#66464 Dec 29, 2012
postscriptt wrote:
Monkeys and atoms alike perceive the nature of their surroundings as well as the material they are made of.
How does an atom "perceive" anything?
postscriptt wrote:
There was consciousness before there was matter
How do you know?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66465 Dec 29, 2012
postscriptt wrote:
Our conscious mind sees with a spectacular but limited scope. It lacks all peripheral vision (and I am using the term metaphorically) because the five senses represent only a relatively flat view of reality, that deals with the most apparent surface.
The five senses are physical extensions of the inner senses. This arrangement is not the exclusive property of humans however - for it is in one way or another a part of each physical species regardless of size, form, or expression. The inner senses provides all species with a method of communication. Monkeys and atoms alike perceive the nature of their surroundings as well as the material they are made of.
The universe did not just magically and randomly come together without design and purpose - lifeless atoms forming willy nilly - dead elements merging indiscriminately. Nor was the world created by some distant objectified supreme being who made it piece by piece in six days - requiring rest on the seventh day like a mere mortal. The universe formed out of what God is. It's the natural extension of DIVINE creativity and INTENT. There was consciousness before there was matter, and not the other way around. It is therefore a gross scientific error to separate matter from consciousness, for consciousness materialized as matter IS physical life. The universe is not finished and complete for (primary consciousness) is always creating itself, or coming into existence.
Okay, so you made a bunch of assertions, where is the evidence that suggests any of this is at all reality?

“Obama Shames the USA”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#66466 Dec 29, 2012
Higgs Boson. It's a death blow to atheists everywhere. It's ad one deal since last week's finding at the Hadron Collider in Switzerland.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#66467 Dec 29, 2012
Ninthman wrote:
Higgs Boson. It's a death blow to atheists everywhere. It's ad one deal since last week's finding at the Hadron Collider in Switzerland.
Now you're both babbling and ... way out of touch with even the Gregorian calendar.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#66468 Dec 29, 2012
Ninthman wrote:
Higgs Boson. It's a death blow to atheists everywhere.
Because...?

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