Atheists on the march in America

Aug 26, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: TurkishPress.com

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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OOPS! The above post was meant for polymath's remarks #65723
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If god existed, there would be evidence of his existence. But there is none, so we can conclude he doesn't exist.
Since the non-physical cannot be investigated in a laboratory, we can conclude that God does exist.
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Strange question. Science is the method we use to learn about how the universe works. Compassion is the feeling of identification we have to another intelligent being. So the question makes no sense to me. Now, compassion *is* a brain state and so is based on a physical process, if that was your issue/.
Perhaps your confusion stems from your definition of the word compassion which has nothing to do with identification, but everything to do with empathy.

I have discussed the nature of consciousness at length. Since science cannot locate the seat of thought and feeling in the brain, it cannot assume that emotion is a physical process.
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You lack the tools needed to understand. That's ok half wit. Get your GED and you might start catching on.
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And this from an ape-man. LOL!
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"The Intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." - Albert Einstein

"The most beautiful and most profound experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms – this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness”.- Albert Einstein (The Merging of Spirit and Science)

Consciousness forms matter. It is not the other way around.

There are many gradations of matter that scientists do not perceive and many of these particles move faster than the speed of light. Light represents only a portion of an even greater spectrum and when scientists study its properties, they can only investigate light as it intrudes into the three dimensional system. The same applies to the study of the structure of matter, or form.

There are universes composed of such faster than light particles. Some of these share the same space as our own universe but they are not perceived unless these particles are slowed sufficiently to experience them as matter.

Some of these particles (emanations from consciousness) drastically alter their velocity, appearing sometimes at our slower rate, usually in a cyclic fashion. The inner vortex of these particles have a much greater velocity than the orbiting portions. The intensity is the core (feeling and intent) around which these electromagnetic emanations of consciousness form. The more intense the core, the sooner the physical materialization. Coordinate points magnify or intensify the behavior, the latent spontaneity inherent within the properties of physical matter. They act as psychic generators.

The intensity of the thought or emotion determines the characteristics of these emanations of consciousness. As certain ranges are reached, they are propelled into physical actualization. This is how consciousness becomes matter. This is the spirit made flesh.

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Yes science is the great satan! The billions of lives it has saved and enriched! All a clever scheme to distract people from the great invisible sky wizard in the sky!

Dastardly evil people those scientists! Next thing you know they will cure millions of blind or paralyzed people!

Lmfao!
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That's like saying a government is not responsible for its actions. Science is not an entity unto itself. It's peopled by humans who have grown used to an ethos of amorality made possible by people like you who look the other way when scientists engage in activities that border on the diabolical. Any technology that produces weapons that kill all living things while leaving buildings intact is based on the skewed and immoral rationale that bricks and mortar are worth more than human lives.
The theory of evolution has been instrumental in replacing the value of moral behavior with the concept of survival of the fittest. Yet morality cannot be divorced from a deeper reflection about the purpose of human life, and it is this reflection that is missing in scientific endeavors.

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Yes a majority of people in Cuba to this day are Catholic. Chavez in Venezuela is a devout Christian and yes there are several churches and religious people in North Korea although churches are closely watched for uprisings and such. And that doesn't begin to go into all the Buddhist shrines and other Asian worship centers there.

Oh you didn't know this I guess. No shock there.
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Like in Cuba? N. Korea?
Vandalized any creches this year?
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Why?
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Based on what evidence, 15th century delusions?
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But its outcomes are not.
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Compassion is the same today as it was 2000 years ago.
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More like in Syria, Saudi and America.
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Like in Cuba? N. Korea?
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If god existed, there would be evidence of his existence. But there is none, so we can conclude he doesn't exist.
If Rose had a conscience there would be evidence of it.
There is no evidence Rose has a conscience.
We can conclude Rose has no conscience.

Will there ever be an antitheist willing to address their ridiculous nothing? It's indefensible bigotry. Not one evidence backed accountable position has been offered.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
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I believe you're a hopeless wanker.
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If Rose had a conscience there would be evidence of it.
There is no evidence Rose has a conscience.
We can conclude Rose has no conscience.
Will there ever be an antitheist willing to address their ridiculous nothing? It's indefensible bigotry. Not one evidence backed accountable position has been offered.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

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Givemeliberty wrote:
Yes science is the great satan! The billions of lives it has saved and enriched! All a clever scheme to distract people from the great invisible sky wizard in the sky!
Dastardly evil people those scientists! Next thing you know they will cure millions of blind or paralyzed people!
Lmfao!
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Despite your rosy critique and wild expectations, modern medicine has also maimed and killed millions of unsuspecting victims under the guise of curing them. And more significantly, our species managed to survive before the advent of medical technology.

The power of belief. The theory that our thoughts can heal is perhaps as old as the practice of healing itself. Prayer and faith healing has helped billions of people since time immemorial. From a scientific perspective, faith healing is unexplained, incomprehensible, and should not work. Yet it does work. The same is true of drug placebo effects. Scientists recognize that there are placebo effects but have trouble accounting for them.

Medical science takes a materialistic stand in opposition to the non-physical; it is predicated upon a denial of the relevance of spirit. The irony here is that the church of Modern Medicine assumes the authority and function of a religious system but refuses to account for the role that the spiritual dimension plays in human health.

In its quest for objectivity the Church of Modern Medicine has rejected its spiritual roots and lost sight of its humanity. It cannot be but a reflection of the culture from which it has emerged. It arrogantly rejects the wisdom of thousands of years of human history, is fragmented to the point of dissociation, devoid of common sense, preoccupied with short-term material goals, slave to its financial overlords, and utterly lacking in the requisite spiritual knowledge that would enable it to find its way out of its self-imposed foolishness.

http://www.naturalnews.com/031589_modern_medi...

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Despite your rosy critique and wild expectations, modern medicine has also maimed and killed millions of unsuspecting victims under the guise of curing them. And more significantly, our species managed to survive before the advent of medical technology.
The power of belief. The theory that our thoughts can heal is perhaps as old as the practice of healing itself. Prayer and faith healing has helped billions of people since time immemorial. From a scientific perspective, faith healing is unexplained, incomprehensible, and should not work. Yet it does work. The same is true of drug placebo effects. Scientists recognize that there are placebo effects but have trouble accounting for them.
Medical science takes a materialistic stand in opposition to the non-physical; it is predicated upon a denial of the relevance of spirit. The irony here is that the church of Modern Medicine assumes the authority and function of a religious system but refuses to account for the role that the spiritual dimension plays in human health.
In its quest for objectivity the Church of Modern Medicine has rejected its spiritual roots and lost sight of its humanity. It cannot be but a reflection of the culture from which it has emerged. It arrogantly rejects the wisdom of thousands of years of human history, is fragmented to the point of dissociation, devoid of common sense, preoccupied with short-term material goals, slave to its financial overlords, and utterly lacking in the requisite spiritual knowledge that would enable it to find its way out of its self-imposed foolishness.
http://www.naturalnews.com/031589_modern_medi...
Wonderful informative post!

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Like in Cuba? N. Korea?
Vandalized any creches this year?
Communism has the same 'believe or else' attitude that religion has. it also requires unquestioning acceptance of the leaders (or priests). In other words, it is more like a religion than it is to humanism.

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Perhaps your confusion stems from your definition of the word compassion which has nothing to do with identification, but everything to do with empathy.
I have discussed the nature of consciousness at length. Since science cannot locate the seat of thought and feeling in the brain, it cannot assume that emotion is a physical process.
And you are wrong. many of the processes in the brain are spread out around the brain. but we can locate the seat of emotions (limbic system with some frontal involvement) and thought (mostly frontal lobes). And so yes, we do know these are physical processes.

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"The Intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." - Albert Einstein
"The most beautiful and most profound experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms – this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness”.- Albert Einstein (The Merging of Spirit and Science)
Consciousness forms matter. It is not the other way around.
There are many gradations of matter that scientists do not perceive and many of these particles move faster than the speed of light. Light represents only a portion of an even greater spectrum and when scientists study its properties, they can only investigate light as it intrudes into the three dimensional system. The same applies to the study of the structure of matter, or form.
There are universes composed of such faster than light particles. Some of these share the same space as our own universe but they are not perceived unless these particles are slowed sufficiently to experience them as matter.
Some of these particles (emanations from consciousness) drastically alter their velocity, appearing sometimes at our slower rate, usually in a cyclic fashion. The inner vortex of these particles have a much greater velocity than the orbiting portions. The intensity is the core (feeling and intent) around which these electromagnetic emanations of consciousness form. The more intense the core, the sooner the physical materialization. Coordinate points magnify or intensify the behavior, the latent spontaneity inherent within the properties of physical matter. They act as psychic generators.
The intensity of the thought or emotion determines the characteristics of these emanations of consciousness. As certain ranges are reached, they are propelled into physical actualization. This is how consciousness becomes matter. This is the spirit made flesh.
Lots and lots of claims. Any proofs? No, of course not.

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They didn't. There are over 1,000 different types of bananas in the world. Your photos simply illustrated a banana with seeds and one without, the variety generally sold in grocery stores.
Yes, and the first bananas had too many seeds for us to eat, the others did not exist before humans did, we know when they existed, it was long after humans did. You must be a troll, or a Poe, because even Ray Comfort isn't this stupid. He even did a backtrack and tried to pretend he knew that when it was pointed out to him.

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Despite your rosy critique and wild expectations, modern medicine has also maimed and killed millions of unsuspecting victims under the guise of curing them. And more significantly, our species managed to survive before the advent of medical technology.
The power of belief. The theory that our thoughts can heal is perhaps as old as the practice of healing itself. Prayer and faith healing has helped billions of people since time immemorial. From a scientific perspective, faith healing is unexplained, incomprehensible, and should not work. Yet it does work. The same is true of drug placebo effects. Scientists recognize that there are placebo effects but have trouble accounting for them.
Medical science takes a materialistic stand in opposition to the non-physical; it is predicated upon a denial of the relevance of spirit. The irony here is that the church of Modern Medicine assumes the authority and function of a religious system but refuses to account for the role that the spiritual dimension plays in human health.
In its quest for objectivity the Church of Modern Medicine has rejected its spiritual roots and lost sight of its humanity. It cannot be but a reflection of the culture from which it has emerged. It arrogantly rejects the wisdom of thousands of years of human history, is fragmented to the point of dissociation, devoid of common sense, preoccupied with short-term material goals, slave to its financial overlords, and utterly lacking in the requisite spiritual knowledge that would enable it to find its way out of its self-imposed foolishness.
http://www.naturalnews.com/031589_modern_medi...
You really are a conspiracy nut, or a snake oil salesman, since you use one of their sites as a "source."

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Such thinking allows science to have no morality, to ignore its responsibility to hold itself accountable for what it does.
A moral science that works to raise our humanity is imperative, particularly in the face of an endangered planet and nightmarish weapons spreading everywhere.
Which is still better than using obvious mythology, such as the bible, as justification for heinous and horrible acts.

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