Atheists on the march in America

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When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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postscriptt

Santa Fe, NM

#65675 Dec 9, 2012
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text> I am not sure how to respond to this jibberish, except to say that it is pure crap. It matters not how many gurus and Jesuses there were, they were all false prophets, since prophets do not exist.
Is this something you know because you have conclusive evidence, or something that inadvertently blew out your bigoted arse hole?

The science you laud as the only rational approach to reality originated in the Christian West, ya numbskull. Science's 17th century founders, Francis Bacon, René Descartes, Robert Boyle, and Isaac Newton held deep religious convictions. Crack a book once in awhile and stop embarrassing yourself.
Thinking

UK

#65676 Dec 9, 2012
Newton was also an alchemist. We've thrown away that rubbish, his religious convictions and kept the bits of Newton's work that, for want of a better word, actually work.
postscriptt wrote:
<quoted text>
Is this something you know because you have conclusive evidence, or something that inadvertently blew out your bigoted arse hole?
The science you laud as the only rational approach to reality originated in the Christian West, ya numbskull. Science's 17th century founders, Francis Bacon, René Descartes, Robert Boyle, and Isaac Newton held deep religious convictions. Crack a book once in awhile and stop embarrassing yourself.
postscriptt

Santa Fe, NM

#65677 Dec 9, 2012
Thinking wrote:
Newton was also an alchemist. We've thrown away that rubbish, his religious convictions and kept the bits of Newton's work that, for want of a better word, actually work.
<quoted text>
You may as well toss the theory of evolution while you are cleaning science's house because it is likewise garbage.

You clueless atheists have boxed yourselves in. Science isn't omnipotent and since you are the first to admit that all the evidence isn't in yet, you can never claim your assertions are true. The minute your defense is challenged, it begins to unravel like a cheap sweater.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65678 Dec 9, 2012
postscriptt wrote:
You may as well toss the theory of evolution while you are cleaning science's house because it is likewise garbage.
Nope. The evidence says otherwise:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
postscriptt wrote:
Science isn't omnipotent
Nobody here claimed that it was.
postscriptt wrote:
and since you are the first to admit that all the evidence isn't in yet...
There is no such thing as "all the evidence being in". New evidence will always be discovered.
postscriptt wrote:
...you can never claim your assertions are true.
Science doesn't claim "truth". Religion does. That's an important difference.

Science claims only that its fact and theories are supported by the currently available evidence.
postscriptt wrote:
The minute your defense is challenged, it begins to unravel like a cheap sweater.
So far, you haven't successfully challenged the modern evolutionary synthesis. When do you plan to begin?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#65679 Dec 9, 2012
Well we have moved on past the universe was created by an ancient invisible sky wizard.

Do catch up half wit.
postscriptt wrote:
<quoted text>
You may as well toss the theory of evolution while you are cleaning science's house because it is likewise garbage.
You clueless atheists have boxed yourselves in. Science isn't omnipotent and since you are the first to admit that all the evidence isn't in yet, you can never claim your assertions are true. The minute your defense is challenged, it begins to unravel like a cheap sweater.
Thinking

UK

#65680 Dec 9, 2012
Why?
postscriptt wrote:
<quoted text>
You may as well toss the theory of evolution while you are cleaning science's house because it is likewise garbage.
You clueless atheists have boxed yourselves in. Science isn't omnipotent and since you are the first to admit that all the evidence isn't in yet, you can never claim your assertions are true. The minute your defense is challenged, it begins to unravel like a cheap sweater.
postscriptt

Santa Fe, NM

#65681 Dec 9, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
So far, you haven't successfully challenged the modern evolutionary synthesis. When do you plan to begin?
How about starting with Darwin hinself who said, "When we descend to details, we cannot prove that a single species has changed; nor can we prove that the supposed changes are beneficial, which is the groundwork of the theory."

Or Dr. Jonathan Wells who is not some anti-religious atheistic zealot like yourself but a qualified scientist, a post-doctoral biologist in the Department of Molecular and Cell Biology at the University of California at Berkley. He says,‘"the Darwinian paradigm is in serious trouble, of the kind that matters most in science. It doesn’t fit the evidence."

Or Biochemist Michael J. Denton who wrote: "It is still, as it was in Darwin's day, overwhelmingly true that the first representatives of all the major classes of organisms known to biology are already highly characteristic of their class when they make their initial appearance in the fossil record. This phenomenon is particularly obvious in the case of the invertebrate fossil record. At its first appearance in the ancient Paleozoic seas, invertebrate life was already divided into practically all the major groups with which we are familiar today."
postscriptt

Santa Fe, NM

#65682 Dec 9, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Well we have moved on past the universe was created by an ancient invisible sky wizard.
<quoted text>
From a sky god to a magical realm where dead matter mysteriously comes to life. A quantum leap indeed! LOL!
postscriptt

Santa Fe, NM

#65683 Dec 9, 2012
Thinking wrote:
Why?
<quoted text>
Because no matter how you spin it, there is nothing virtuous or socially redeeming in viewing oneself as a disposable survival machine.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65684 Dec 9, 2012
So far, you haven't successfully challenged the modern evolutionary synthesis. When do you plan to begin?
postscriptt wrote:
How about starting with Darwin hinself
Are you going to challenge the modern evolutionary synthesis, or just take potshots at Darwin, who died decades before the synthesis was created?
postscriptt wrote:
who said, "When we descend to details, we cannot prove that a single species has changed; nor can we prove that the supposed changes are beneficial, which is the groundwork of the theory."
That particular instance of quote mining is already addressed here:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/p...
postscriptt wrote:
Or Dr. Jonathan Wells who is not some anti-religious atheistic zealot like yourself but a qualified scientist, a post-doctoral biologist in the Department of Molecular and Cell Biology at the University of California at Berkley. He says,‘"the Darwinian paradigm is in serious trouble, of the kind that matters most in science. It doesn’t fit the evidence."
That's his personal opinion. So what? Are you going to provide any actual *evidence* that refutes evolution, or just quote opinions?
postscriptt wrote:
Or Biochemist Michael J. Denton who wrote: "It is still, as it was in Darwin's day, overwhelmingly true that the first representatives of all the major classes of organisms known to biology are already highly characteristic of their class when they make their initial appearance in the fossil record. This phenomenon is particularly obvious in the case of the invertebrate fossil record. At its first appearance in the ancient Paleozoic seas, invertebrate life was already divided into practically all the major groups with which we are familiar today."
Already addressed here:

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC300.h...
Thinking

UK

#65685 Dec 9, 2012
We should be judged by our actions, not belief in myths.
postscriptt wrote:
<quoted text>
Because no matter how you spin it, there is nothing virtuous or socially redeeming in viewing oneself as a disposable survival machine.
postscriptt

Santa Fe, NM

#65686 Dec 9, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
So far, you haven't successfully challenged the modern evolutionary synthesis. When do you plan to begin?
<quoted text>
Are you going to challenge the modern evolutionary synthesis, or just take potshots at Darwin, who died decades before the synthesis was created?
<quoted text>
That particular instance of quote mining is already addressed here:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/p...
<quoted text>
That's his personal opinion. So what? Are you going to provide any actual *evidence* that refutes evolution, or just quote opinions?
<quoted text>
Already addressed here:
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC300.h...
Talkorgins again? Is that your ace in hole? Science is 99% opinion and 1% fact.
postscriptt

Santa Fe, NM

#65687 Dec 9, 2012
Thinking wrote:
We should be judged by our actions, not belief in myths.
<quoted text>
Since you believe you came from nothing, you're going nowhere ao why worry about judgements?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65688 Dec 9, 2012
postscriptt wrote:
Talkorgins again? Is that your ace in hole?
If you're going to keep bringing up "problems" that have already been refuted by talkorigins, then I'm going to keep pointing out where in talkorigins your "problems" have already been refuted.

Got anything that *hasn't* been refuted yet?
postscriptt

Santa Fe, NM

#65689 Dec 9, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
If you're going to keep bringing up "problems" that have already been refuted by talkorigins, then I'm going to keep pointing out where in talkorigins your "problems" have already been refuted.
Got anything that *hasn't* been refuted yet?
Do you? It's all been hashed and rehashed a gazillion times over. The fact remains, religion can't prove God exists and science can't prove God doesn't exist. It's an endless circular argument - round and round it goes proving nothing. Using a raft of fallacious arguments based on the out-dated pseudo science of talkorigins doesn't make your assertions any more plausibe, or even intelligent for that matter.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65690 Dec 9, 2012
Got anything that *hasn't* been refuted yet?
postscriptt wrote:
Do you?
I'm not the one here claiming that the theory of evolution has problems. If you want make such a claim, then support your claim with evidence.
postscriptt wrote:
The fact remains, religion can't prove God exists and science can't prove God doesn't exist.
Science has no burden of proof in that matter. Religion does. If you're going to claim that something exists, then provide some evidence to support the claim.

Otherwise, the rational position is to reject the claim.
postscriptt wrote:
Using a raft of fallacious arguments based on the out-dated pseudo science of talkorigins...
Funny how you have failed to indicate what is "outdated" or "pseudo science" among the content from talkorigins presented to you.

Why is that?
postscriptt

Santa Fe, NM

#65691 Dec 9, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
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Thinking

UK

#65692 Dec 9, 2012
Because unlike many religious people such as Hitler and his millions of christian followers, I strongly believe in doing the right thing now.

How does being "forgiven" by god for a shitty but eventually repentant-at-the-11th-hour life ever undo the hurt caused to others?
postscriptt wrote:
<quoted text>
Since you believe you came from nothing, you're going nowhere ao why worry about judgements?
postscriptt

Santa Fe, NM

#65693 Dec 9, 2012
Thinking wrote:
Because unlike many religious people such as Hitler and his millions of christian followers, I strongly believe in doing the right thing now.
<quoted text>
Two World Wars and the purges of Stalin and Mao can hardly be attributed to religion. Hitler did his evil in the name of an insane and unscientific eugenics theory. But then how would atheists who profess no moral guide know what's right?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65694 Dec 9, 2012
postscriptt wrote:
<quoted text>
Content deleted due to redundancy.
In other words, you're afraid to address it. Yeah, we get that.

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