Atheists on the march in America

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When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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“The Intrepid”

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#65285 Nov 27, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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So, now you're asserting that thing evolve because they "want" to.
I think that anything is possible.

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...

There are people who are attempting to manipulate the human mind into evolving in an unnatural way.

“The Intrepid”

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#65286 Nov 27, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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So, you cannot provide evidence to back up your "life force" bull. As I thought.
Please buy some man panties. Yer grossin' us out!

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#65287 Nov 27, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Actually, many other animals do demonstrate self-consciousness, the recognition of self, all the time. Apes, monkeys, even birds. They tend to be aware of themselves by adulthood, where humans are aware by the toddler ages. I forgot the name of the test they used, but it involves mirrors and made for an interesting documentary on the subject.
The dot test. You put a red dot on their forehead and see if they attempt to touch it on themselves. it shows they know that the object in the mirror is them.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#65288 Nov 27, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>I think that anything is possible.
http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...
There are people who are attempting to manipulate the human mind into evolving in an unnatural way.
Look, if you have something nice to say it's not worth saying, stick to your vitriol until you learn science. Thank you.

“Think&Care”

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#65289 Nov 27, 2012
postscript wrote:
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Cleve Backster, a former CIA interregation specialist connected polygraph sensors to plants and discovered that they reacted to harm (cutting their leaves) and even to harmful thoughts of humans in proximity to them. If they were not "aware", they would not react. What makes them aware? Consciousness.
Incorrect assumption. Plants react to harm by attempting to heal themselves. That is one of the many functions of living things. That does not imply 'awareness', but simply the ability to respond to events. No consciousness required; only 'reflexes' of a sort.
The singing plants of Damanhur:
Since 1975 researchers at Damanhur have been experimenting with plants, measuring the reactivity of plants to their environment and their capacity to learn and communicate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =nXhhAXjKmIUXX
Plants are alive. Higher plants have sophisticated methods of defense and the ability to heal and to respond to the chemical signals of other plants.

Once again, that is not the same as consciousness. There is no more self-awareness here than there is in the mammalian immune system.

“Think&Care”

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#65290 Nov 27, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Let me know when you have created life from nonliving materials.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ALL life is made from non-living chemicals. None of the water in your body is alive. None of the atoms in your body is alive. And yet you, a living thing, are made from these non-living things.

No, we do not have the technology to arrange non-living things on our own and make a living thing. But we can look at living things and understand that their fundamental components are not alive. Life is a matter of how the non-living matter is arranged and how it interacts and not of anything added on to the atoms.

“Think&Care”

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#65291 Nov 27, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>I think that anything is possible.
http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...
There are people who are attempting to manipulate the human mind into evolving in an unnatural way.
How did you get *that* conclusion from that article? it was talking about how certain bacterial cells 'commit suicide' under viral attack and how some viruses managed to circumvent that process.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#65292 Nov 27, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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The dot test. You put a red dot on their forehead and see if they attempt to touch it on themselves. it shows they know that the object in the mirror is them.
That's the one, thank you. Saw it in a lecture once and forgot what the test was completely.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#65293 Nov 27, 2012
Why do nearly half of fertilised eggs die through no fault of their originators?

Why is your god aborting nearly half of these "life forces" (as you term them)?
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text> Our life force is carried from conception onward, derived from the combination of a live sperm and a live egg. Life comes from life.
postscript

Santa Fe, NM

#65294 Nov 27, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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Incorrect assumption. Plants react to harm by attempting to heal themselves. That is one of the many functions of living things. That does not imply 'awareness', but simply the ability to respond to events. No consciousness required; only 'reflexes' of a sort.
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Plants are alive. Higher plants have sophisticated methods of defense and the ability to heal and to respond to the chemical signals of other plants.
Once again, that is not the same as consciousness. There is no more self-awareness here than there is in the mammalian immune system.
You have done nothing but repeat yourself in a grim determination to prove something you don't understand.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#65295 Nov 27, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
Our life force is carried from conception onward, derived from the combination of a live sperm and a live egg.
There is no "life force". There are simply ongoing chemical reactions that, taken as a complex system, constitute "life".
nanoanomaly wrote:
Life comes from life.
And from non-life. Otherwise, the first living thing wouldn't have existed.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#65296 Nov 27, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Who needs a brain to be aware of existence?
http://www.damninteresting.com/amoebic-morali...
Don't forget plants. They are finding evidence that plants are aware. But amoebic morality is damn interesting.
:)

“The Intrepid”

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#65297 Nov 27, 2012
Thinking wrote:
Why do nearly half of fertilised eggs die through no fault of their originators?
Why is your god aborting nearly half of these "life forces" (as you term them)?
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There is no supernatural being deciding which baby doesn't make it to term. Shyt just happens.

“The Intrepid”

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#65298 Nov 27, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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Incorrect assumption. Plants react to harm by attempting to heal themselves. That is one of the many functions of living things. That does not imply 'awareness', but simply the ability to respond to events. No consciousness required; only 'reflexes' of a sort.
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Plants are alive. Higher plants have sophisticated methods of defense and the ability to heal and to respond to the chemical signals of other plants.
Once again, that is not the same as consciousness. There is no more self-awareness here than there is in the mammalian immune system.
A thought is not a neuron, it only exists "inside" the neuron. Thoughts affect the brain but are smaller than a neuron, smaller even than an atom. They aren't the wave, they ride the wave.

“The Intrepid”

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#65299 Nov 27, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
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And from non-life. Otherwise, the first living thing wouldn't have existed.
Prove it.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#65300 Nov 27, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Prove it.
You are made of carbon. There now give me my cookie for proving it.

“Think&Care”

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#65303 Nov 28, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>A thought is not a neuron, it only exists "inside" the neuron. Thoughts affect the brain but are smaller than a neuron, smaller even than an atom. They aren't the wave, they ride the wave.
Exactly the opposite. Thoughts are not 'in the neuron'. They are processes that involve lots of connected neurons. The thoughts are the program running on the hardware of the neurons.

“Think&Care”

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#65304 Nov 28, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>A thought is not a neuron, it only exists "inside" the neuron. Thoughts affect the brain but are smaller than a neuron, smaller even than an atom. They aren't the wave, they ride the wave.
No neuron has a thought. Thoughts are produced by the activity of many neurons.
test

Spain

#65305 Nov 28, 2012
test

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#65306 Nov 28, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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No neuron has a thought. Thoughts are produced by the activity of many neurons.
Neurons are the collective?

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