Atheists on the march in America

[Drew Smith]

John wrote:

Translation- Drew has absolutely no evidence.

Why would I need evidence? I'm not the one here making the claim. You're the one, John. And you can't produce any evidence to support your claim.

John wrote:

His.forum

Doesn't exist, since I don't own this forum. Topix does.

John wrote:

Further he uses words like logical and rational with no credibility.

Says the guy who makes claims (such as "There is a prime mover") but who can't back them up. You're not really in any position to claim that others aren't credible.

John wrote:

Make up a rational and logical beginning

Why? Your claim doesn't rise or fall depending up some other claim. It rises or falls on its own. And since you can't produce any evidence to support it, it falls.

John wrote:

The court would not hear your noncase

You mean,*your* non-case, John, the case where you claim that a prime mover is responsible for the existence of the Universe, but a case that you can't back with any evidence. You'd be thrown right out of court, John.

John wrote:

The judge would have to explain to you that my contentions are predicated on a particular action on your end.

No, John, the judge would have to explain to *you* that your claim isn't backed by any evidence and therefore, you have failed to make your case.

John wrote:

The appeal to majority was purposeful

It was logically fallacious, John. And I caught you at it. Saying "I meant to do that" after the fact won't get you out of trouble.

[John]

Why would you need evidence? You really don't. Of course, if you are going to make rules and attack others beliefs it seems reasonable. Add in a forum and still nothing....well seems illogical and irrational to me. Of course those terms we also disagree on.

Let's start over. What do you believe in this arena Drew?

This isn't court Drew and of course you got it wrong anyway. The judge would ask you to support your claim that there was no evidence for a prime mover. I was clear in my rebuttal, but its ok I'm used to.atheists lying for nothing.

You didn't catch a thing Drew LOL. I hooked you and your too vain to realize it. Good grief.

Perhaps I should just make statements, assumptions, etc. and declare that's your point. Well, I don't have to do that. You have no point. You have no evidence. You have no way to quantify evidence. You do have a zany desire to fight for nothing though. The fight is like a one legged man in.an ass kicking contest, but so be it.

What do you believe Drew?

[Drew Smith]

John wrote:

Why would you need evidence? You really don't.

Then why do you keep asking for it, despite the fact that I'm not the one here making a claim as to the origin of the Universe?

Make up your mind!

John wrote:

Of course, if you are going to make rules...

Someone has to, since you are unwilling to do so. Debates have rules. I guess you missed that.

John wrote:

What do you believe in this arena Drew?

That there is insufficient evidence to support any claim as to the origin of the Universe.

Now, John, if you disagree with that, present your evidence.

John wrote:

This isn't court

Lucky for you, since your non-case would have been thrown out immediately due to lack of evidence.

John wrote:

The judge would ask you to support your claim that there was no evidence for a prime mover.

No, the judge would ask *you* to present evidence *for* a prime mover (since you're the one making the claim), and because you fail in doing so, would throw your claim right out of court.

[John]

You skipped the part where I asked what you believed. After three years I'll conclude that's purposeful. I have exposed your rules for evidence and hypocritical stances on myriad issues.
Now, you want debate rules huh Lmao. We know what a failure you have been with these magic rules you create. Those rules have allowed for nothing to be evidence for you. You know even in court at some point a coincidence is a coincidence is a coincidencence,,,, is no longer a coincidencence.
I gather you think the law is your expertise. I will say you are better at it than explaining your nothing. Not good, but better.
I simply challenged your forum when they sought specifically to marginalize belief. There are many reasons and evidences to conclude that something larger than us is responsible for the universe. Read up on it. Start with the army of scientists from various disciplines.
You mistakenly place me as the plaintiff in your boring mock trial. You claim there is no evidence so prove it.
I just said I would debate my something vs anything substantive you obviously fear attempting.
It's a difficult position for you understandably. A true freethinker would reevaluate.

Let's get back to your nothing, or at least mix your deflections up.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

[-Skeptic-]

John wrote:

You skipped the part where I asked what you believed. After three years I'll conclude that's purposeful. I have exposed your rules for evidence and hypocritical stances on myriad issues.
Now, you want debate rules huh Lmao. We know what a failure you have been with these magic rules you create. Those rules have allowed for nothing to be evidence for you. You know even in court at some point a coincidence is a coincidence is a coincidencence,,,, is no longer a coincidencence.
I gather you think the law is your expertise. I will say you are better at it than explaining your nothing. Not good, but better.
I simply challenged your forum when they sought specifically to marginalize belief. There are many reasons and evidences to conclude that something larger than us is responsible for the universe. Read up on it. Start with the army of scientists from various disciplines.
You mistakenly place me as the plaintiff in your boring mock trial. You claim there is no evidence so prove it.
I just said I would debate my something vs anything substantive you obviously fear attempting.
It's a difficult position for you understandably. A true freethinker would reevaluate.
Let's get back to your nothing, or at least mix your deflections up.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

See you next post with no proof of god liar!!

[-Skeptic-]

John, the day you actually debate like a man instead of a f*cking weasel is the day your imaginary god will become real.

ie: never.

[John]

Your nothing amuses me. Don't let that alligator mouth override that canary ass.

Watch the tolerant liberal atheists in action!

[Drew Smith]

John wrote:

You skipped the part where I asked what you believed.

No, I didn't, so now you're lying. Here's what I said: "That there is insufficient evidence to support any claim as to the origin of the Universe."

John wrote:

I have exposed your rules for evidence and hypocritical stances on myriad issues.

You've "exposed" nothing, John, other than your own behavior as an Internet troll.

John wrote:

There are many reasons and evidences to conclude that something larger than us is responsible for the universe.

And yet, strangely enough, you can't seem to name a single one of those "many reasons and evidences".

We all know why. Because they don't exist.

[John]

I don't need you to repeat your disbelief ad nauseum and insist you have answered the question. After three years you should know the difference between belief and disbelief.

The list is long of the things I have exposed. Frankly, its mind numbingly easy. For instance, you have no evidence that you hold others accountable to.

You don't know squat Drew. It's why you have a forum about nothing. Provide an accountable position.as I have done and we will see who has a case and who doesn't. We all know why you want no part of that debate.

What do you believe Drew?

[Drew Smith]

John wrote:

I don't need you to repeat your disbelief ad nauseum

...says the guy who keeps repeating his trollish posting, ad nauseum.

Follow your own advice, John. You can actually stop being an Internet troll if you tried.

[KittenKoder]

John wrote:

Show me what my claims are. I have met every one of them. You have no evidence. You have no way to.adequately quantify evidence,,,,,. Your nonclaims do not need 62,000 + posts. Of course, this is about an agenda.
Now, if you would like to.com pare the evidences of a prime mover vs.????? I would love to do that.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

I see you are still not presenting evidence to support your claims, you are just making it all up as you go then asserting it without evidence. Present undeniable evidence.

[John]

Drew Smith wrote:

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...says the guy who keeps repeating his trollish posting, ad nauseum.
Follow your own advice, John. You can actually stop being an Internet troll if you tried.

What do you believe Drew? Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

[Drew Smith]

John wrote:

What do you believe Drew?

Asked and answered, John.

[John]

Shame, shame. Lying about your nothing.

[Givemeliberty]

I am loving the news! Atheists on the march indeed! Now over 30% of Americans age 30 and under are claiming to be non believer when polled. Not specific Christian or even just generic Christian not even the ultra generic spiritual. 30% want nothing to do with any religion or even spiritual tinged belief structure.

The future is coming on and the faithful are angry and in full panic mode. 30% now imagine how high that % will be in 20 years from now!

[John]

Watch the loons fight a God they don't believe in. Simple Obama voting bigots. Nothing save us.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

[-Skeptic-]

John wrote:

Watch the loons fight a God they don't believe in. Simple Obama voting bigots. Nothing save us.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

I bet you 1 million pounds your next post had no proof of the god you keep lying about.

[Givemeliberty]

God hates Shrimp!

Leviticus 11:9-12 says:
9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

Deuteronomy 14:9-10 says:
9 These ye shall eat of all that are in the waters: all that have fins and scales shall ye eat:
10 And whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you.

Eat shrimp burn in hell!

[John]

I guarrantee the nothing cometh. A forum dependent on a God you don't believe in. Pathetic.

[wolverine]

-Skeptic- wrote:

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I bet you 1 million pounds your next post had no proof of the god you keep lying about.

Pounds ?.....LOL

We Dont Use Stinkin Pounds Over Here.

Closet Creature