Atheists on the march in America

[John]

I believe you are a bigot without a lick of evidence that meets your criteria. I believe you cannot and will not submit an accountable position to debate vs a prime mover. I believe you and your forum have been exposed.

[John]

You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 62,100 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

[Drew Smith]

John wrote:

I believe you are a bigot

Good luck with trying to demonstrate that. So far, you've failed.

John wrote:

...without a lick of evidence that meets your criteria.

As I'm not making a claim, why would I need evidence?

John wrote:

I believe you cannot and will not submit an accountable position to debate vs a prime mover.

My accountable position is that there is a lack of evidence for a prime mover. But my position need not be defended until you actually provide any evidence, and so far, you're afraid to do so. We get that.(It's because you don't have any.)

John wrote:

I believe you and your forum have been exposed.

It's not my forum. It belongs to Topix. And you've exposed nothing other than your own trollhood.

[Rose_NoHo]

John, let us know when you are willing to debate.
Here is my position.
1. If god exists, there is evidence of his existence.
2. There is no evidence of god's existence.
3. There is no god.

So, let's start with point one.
Do you think it would be possible for god to exist, yet there be no evidence of his existence? Well? John? John?
:::crickets chirping:::

[John]

Neither Drew nor Rose seem to understand the difference between belief and disbelief. No evidence. No claims. No purpose to this forum. Unless this nothing is about something else hmmm.

It's your forum guys LOL. How about we compare the evidences of your nothing vs my something. No Drew, you have failed; miserably. The beauty of it is that you demonstrate it all by yourself.

What do you believe Rose / Drew?

[John]

Rose you are a bigot and a coward. You have yet to present any evidence or accountable position. You just hate a God you don't believe in. Kind of crazy, but whatever.
1. If Rose had a conscience there would be evidence of one.
2. There is no evidence of your conscience.
3. Your conscience does not exist.
Once again Rose refuses to debate. I have tutored you on what the difference is between belief and disbelief. I'm not here to convert you, I'm here to expose you.
How long will the loons avoid their illogical nothing? Stay tuned.
Stump Rose! Ask her what she believes.
Still nothing Rose. That's purposeful as you don't dare debate vs a prime mover. I will laugh at Drew's nothing next. No wonder people think ill of atheists. It is not the nothing per se, but the character flaws. I will not give up on you though.
Come on, tell us about this magic nothing that poofs universes.
Stump an antitheist! Explain the difference between belief and disbelief.

[Rose_NoHo]

John refuses to debate.
John = troll.

[Drew Smith]

John wrote:

Neither Drew nor Rose seem to understand the difference between belief and disbelief.

On the contrary, John, we understand it quite clearly. Unless there is evidence and logic to support a belief, then disbelief is called for.

You can't produce any evidence or logic to support belief in a "prime mover", so there is no good reason to believe in one.

John wrote:

It's your forum

No, it isn't. You don't seem to get that.

[John]

Nothing is evidence to you in this arena Drew. That's clear by your lack of evidence logical or illogical LOL. Logical, rational, etc all sound good but the bottom line is you have nothing.
Your forum is about a specific and transparent attack on belief. Since you insist on reflecting from your noncase I offered any one of you to debate an accountable position vs a prime mover. You have no intention of debating and your fight for nothing is illogical and irrational.

Nothing Bless

[Givemeliberty]

Why is this pointless ignorant troll still being fed? Let him starve already it's the merciful thing to do.

[John]

Except for one more nothing comment huh? That will be the last one LMAO!!!

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

[-Skeptic-]

John wrote:

Except for one more nothing comment huh? That will be the last one LMAO!!!
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

See you next post with no proof of god, liar!

[-Skeptic-]

Givemeliberty wrote:

Why is this pointless ignorant troll still being fed? Let him starve already it's the merciful thing to do.

Way more fun to watch the maggot squirm as he realises he's a lying sh*t with no proof of god.

[John]

I'll tell you what's fun Skeptic.. Making it clear that your forum has no evidence, no purpose, and no clue. That's why the lot of you avoid debating little ole me.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

[-Skeptic-]

John wrote:

I'll tell you what's fun Skeptic.. Making it clear that your forum has no evidence, no purpose, and no clue. That's why the lot of you avoid debating little ole me.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

See you next post with no proof of god. I bet I'm right 100% of the time. Your next post will have no proof of god or valid arguments.

[John]

Why.are you worried about.a God you don't believe in.Skeptic? Seems to me you need God LOL. Don't forget you have avoided a something vs nothing debate since 2009.

[Rose_NoHo]

Still waiting for John to debate.
1. If god exists, there is evidence for his existence.
2. There is no evidence of god's existence.
3. God does not exist.

Let's start with point one.
Do you think it would be possible for god to exist, yet there be no evidence of his existence.
At this point, we're not debating if there is any evidence, what would qualify as evidence, or even how we would become aware of it.
John?
:::crickets chirping:::
John!?
Are you OK?
:::crickets chirping:::
:::crickets chirping:::
John!?

[Rose_NoHo]

-Skeptic- wrote:

<quoted text>
See you next post with no proof of god. I bet I'm right 100% of the time. Your next post will have no proof of god or valid arguments.

You were right!

[John]

Rose you are a bigot and a coward. You have yet to present any evidence or accountable position. You just hate a God you don't believe in. Kind of crazy, but whatever.
1. If Rose had a conscience there would be evidence of one.
2. There is no evidence of your conscience.
3. Your conscience does not exist.
Once again Rose refuses to debate. I have tutored you on what the difference is between belief and disbelief. I'm not here to convert you, I'm here to expose you.
How long will the loons avoid their illogical nothing? Stay tuned.
Stump Rose! Ask her what she believes.
Still nothing Rose. That is purposeful as you don't dare debate vs a prime mover. I will laugh at Drew's nothing next. No wonder people think ill of atheists. It is not the nothing per se, but the character flaws. I will not give up on you though.
Come on, tell us about this magic nothing that poofs universes.
Stump an antitheist! Explain the difference between belief and disbelief.

[KittenKoder]

John wrote:

Rose you are a bigot and a coward. You have yet to present any evidence or accountable position. You just hate a God you don't believe in. Kind of crazy, but whatever.
1. If Rose had a conscience there would be evidence of one.
2. There is no evidence of your conscience.
3. Your conscience does not exist.
Once again Rose refuses to debate. I have tutored you on what the difference is between belief and disbelief. I'm not here to convert you, I'm here to expose you.
How long will the loons avoid their illogical nothing? Stay tuned.
Stump Rose! Ask her what she believes.
Still nothing Rose. That is purposeful as you don't dare debate vs a prime mover. I will laugh at Drew's nothing next. No wonder people think ill of atheists. It is not the nothing per se, but the character flaws. I will not give up on you though.
Come on, tell us about this magic nothing that poofs universes.
Stump an antitheist! Explain the difference between belief and disbelief.

Evidence is presented to support a claim, where is your evidence? We have no claim, you do. So present your evidence, then we'll talk.