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John
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No, Drew your forums brand of atheism is not merely what you claim.Don't get pouty because you have been exposed. Does lack of something, such as evidence, rationality, logic work? Nothing is what it is. Dance like my puppet or leave out of embarassment.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
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Since: Feb 08
Tampa, FL
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John wrote: your forums I don't have a forum, John. The forum belongs to Topix. John wrote: Don't get pouty because you have been exposed. When have you ever exposed anything, John?(Other than you inability to debate?) John wrote: Does lack of something, such as evidence, rationality, logic work? It doesn't work in your favor, John, since you lack any evidence or logic for your "prime mover". Therefore, your position is a non-starter. Produce evidence or leave, John.
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Since: Apr 11
Santa Monica, CA
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Drew Smith wrote: <quoted text> I don't have a forum, John. The forum belongs to Topix. <quoted text> When have you ever exposed anything, John?(Other than you inability to debate?) <quoted text> It doesn't work in your favor, John, since you lack any evidence or logic for your "prime mover". Therefore, your position is a non-starter. Produce evidence or leave, John. We need a "slam dunk" judge it icon.
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John
United States
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Nothing will never cut it Rose. The only thing that has been a slam dunk is me exposing your hypocritical agenda. There is still no evidence that satisfies your arbitrary standard. If there was you would produce it. So howling at a God you don't believe in is quite comical. It is so sad that you have a forum about nothing. Since you are so fixated on my something I made the offer to debate my accountable position vs any other. I knew that wouldn't happen as you cannot make any sense of this facade you keep up. Hey, if you think my something takes the spotlight off of your nothing have at it. The reality is it only further exposes how illogical and irrational your nothing is. All this because I simply asked what you believed. Well? Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
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John
United States
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You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates? If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 62,080 plus posts in. Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom. Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!
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Since: Jun 07
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John wrote: You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates? If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 62,080 plus posts in. Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom. Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards! See you next post with no proof of god, liar.
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John
United States
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This nothing looks just like Rose and Drew's. Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
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Since: Mar 11
Louisville, KY
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John
United States
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There you go. Get that God you don't believe in LOL. Stump an antitheist! Ask him what he believes.
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Since: Mar 08
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-Skeptic- wrote: <quoted text> See you next post with no proof of god, liar. I can not believe that you guys are STILL plagued by that idiot John....He must be nailed to his stump.
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John
United States
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I can't believe you loons post nothing in a forum about nothing year after year.
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Since: Feb 08
Tampa, FL
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John wrote: I can't believe you loons post nothing in a forum about nothing year after year. One would reasonably think that you would have better things to do with your time than post in forums whose existence you don't approve of.
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Since: Mar 11
Louisville, KY
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Wow did everyone see the huge spike in Americans age 30 and younger who now are calling themselves non religious? Sweet! This is the largest spike of Americans doing this in our history! Woot! 30%
The Godbots are seeing the writing on the wall slowly but surely the old irrational superstitious ways are on the decline!
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John
United States
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Drew Smith wrote: <quoted text> One would reasonably think that you would have better things to do with your time than post in forums whose existence you don't approve of. I disagree. Now, back to your nothing. What do you believe in.this arena Drew?
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John
United States
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Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost three years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Three years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence. If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 62,090 posts to show otherwise. Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True science that is repeatable and observable.
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Since: Feb 08
Tampa, FL
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One would reasonably think that you would have better things to do with your time than post in forums whose existence you don't approve of. John wrote: I disagree. Then explain why. A normal person doesn't attend movies or watch TV shows that they see no purpose in. A normal person does not spend time in bookstores in order to complain that they see no purpose in having the books. A normal person does not attend the meetings of a club where that person sees no purpose for having the club. So why would a normal person spend any time in a forum where they see no purpose in having the forum?
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John
United States
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No. I feel no need to debate ridiculous strawmen when your forum has made no attempts at intellectual honesty. What do you believe in this arena Drew? I asked that in 2009. How about you produce some evidence or accountable position. It is your forum.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
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Since: Feb 08
Tampa, FL
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John wrote: I feel no need to debate ridiculous strawmen when your forum... I don't have a forum. The forum belongs to Topix. So why do you waste so much of your precious time here if you see no purpose in the existence of this forum?
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John
United States
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What do you believe Drew? Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True science that is repeatable and observable.
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Since: Feb 08
Tampa, FL
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John wrote: What do you believe Drew? I believe that you're an Internet troll who has no interest in serious debate.
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