Atheists on the march in America

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When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#64803 Oct 20, 2012
John wrote:
God doesn't exist according to you folks, but he sure occupies your time.
Nope, no "god" occupies my time. What *does* occupy my time is pointing out the irrational belief in a "god" by those who lack any evidence or logic to support their belief.

Apparently, John can't distinguish between an entity (real or fictive) and the belief in the existence of that entity. The belief, in this case, is certainly real, but the object of that belief? Nope, still no evidence for it.

“His noodlyness astounds!”

Since: Feb 09

You tell me

#64804 Oct 20, 2012
sweets2360 wrote:
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All that lovely seafood, shrimp, crabs, lobsters, oysters and scallops. I guess we will all go to hell happy, with cocktail sauce and rarafied butter on our breath.
And Pasta! RAmen!!
John

United States

#64805 Oct 20, 2012
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost three years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Three years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 62,200 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True science that is repeatable and observable.
Atheist Silurist

Gloucester, UK

#64806 Oct 20, 2012
John wrote:
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost three years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Three years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 62,200 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True science that is repeatable and observable.
Oh no, It's the king of the internet trolls,AGAIN.

I can't speak for all atheists,but personally, I believe you are a retarded,cretinous,shit-for-br ains troll and the proof is in every mangled and twisted thing you post.
henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#64807 Oct 20, 2012
John wrote:
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost three years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Three years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 62,200 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True science that is repeatable and observable.
Science is the only victor of humanity. Capitalism is twin of war! Wthout capitalism in the age of AKWs is the only chance of mankind to survive.
henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#64808 Oct 20, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
As I have even trying to do let's change the subject and get this thread back on track. No matter what anyone says or reasoning you use it's just not going to get through his stump temper tantrum.
Ignore the screaming child because the atheist non believer movement is spiking in the US an that's what we should focus on and not let a desperate Christian try to derail a great thread.
The religious crowd knows they are in huge trouble.
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Apparently the "religious crowd" knows not in what big danger man is now.
henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#64809 Oct 20, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Indoctrination sad to say is a powerful enslaving device. Those indoctrinated sheeple are seeing their numbers dwindle, their churches becoming less an less filled and then closing it's doors. This enrages them and they are fighting the only way they know how and that's to attack non believers with nonsense. Yet it's like fighting the tide.
With each passing year reason slowly becomes more of a factor while their superstitious ways dwindle. The more they lose control the more desperate and unhinged thy will become my friend. Just sit back and enjoy the show.
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The nuclear age is more and more of a thread of humanity. Capitalism is no longer for the survival bearable!
henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#64810 Oct 20, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Why do you think there is such resistance to reason?
It is easy to erase for the 1% to get lies the dominant mode of humanity!
henry

Bad Langensalza, Germany

#64811 Oct 20, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
Still waiting for John to debate.
1. If god exists, there is evidence for his existence.
2. There is no evidence of god's existence.
3. God does not exist.
Let's start with point one.
Do you think it would be possible for god to exist, yet there be no evidence of his existence.
At this point, we're not debating if there is any evidence, what would qualify as evidence, or even how we would become aware of it.
John?
:::crickets chirping:::
John!?
Are you OK?
:::crickets chirping:::
:::crickets chirping:::
John!?
Never any god!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#64812 Oct 20, 2012
John wrote:
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost three years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Three years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 62,200 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True science that is repeatable and observable.
No evidence for god in your next post either I bet.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#64813 Oct 20, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Just that many people forsake traditional medicine in hopes of a miracle and It doesn't happen. There are some very sad stories of people who have done this and could have easily been cured by an md but wasted time there. James Randi I believe has a great article and study on that. Let me look it up for you.
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I think it's really tragic when people forgo actual medicine in hopes of a miracle cure. I just got the impression that people searched for those cures after medicine had failed. Except for Christian Scientists, who don't use medicine at all.
I'd like to see Randi's article, thanks.
John

United States

#64814 Oct 20, 2012
All kinds of weirdness from the marginalized loons today. I'll wait for you to explain your nothing. It is your forum. Henry, send me your $$$.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. Logic and rationality stumps them as well.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#64815 Oct 20, 2012
There are some that try that as a last measure but really would you rather have a dying family member or friend in a controlled sterile environment hoping for some positive update or med change that could save them, Or have them roll in or ewwwwww drink some water that just has a pus dripping disease riddled person in it or say a filling adult diaper?

They have run tests on that water before and I wouldn't wash a dog in it let alone allow someone I cared about drink it.

Let me hunt up that Randi article but you can google up the sad stories of people who got scammed by that and lost more than their money. A lot more.
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it's really tragic when people forgo actual medicine in hopes of a miracle cure. I just got the impression that people searched for those cures after medicine had failed. Except for Christian Scientists, who don't use medicine at all.
I'd like to see Randi's article, thanks.

Since: Apr 11

Los Angeles, CA

#64816 Oct 21, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
There are some that try that as a last measure but really would you rather have a dying family member or friend in a controlled sterile environment hoping for some positive update or med change that could save them, Or have them roll in or ewwwwww drink some water that just has a pus dripping disease riddled person in it or say a filling adult diaper?
They have run tests on that water before and I wouldn't wash a dog in it let alone allow someone I cared about drink it.
Let me hunt up that Randi article but you can google up the sad stories of people who got scammed by that and lost more than their money. A lot more.
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Ugh, I didn't know the water was like that...

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#64817 Oct 22, 2012
What can be asserted without proof can also be dismissed without proof. The classic 3d grade playground argument of "it's true because i say it is' has run its course. Take a step back and take a long, glaring look at religion. If you do this in honesty - you will see nothing but violence, torture and killing in its name. There is nothing that can be accomplished with religion that cannot be accomplished without it. Nothing changes in it's absence outside of your own mind. What makes this 'heaven' such a special place??? It seems that all you do is sit around giving praises to a god, no baseball games, no football, no internet. After about 500,000 years of that - I would get rather bored i think.

I certainly dont think that religion can move mountains, but I have seen what it can do to skyscrapers, embassies, cars and oil fields.
John

United States

#64818 Oct 24, 2012
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 62,200 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#64819 Oct 24, 2012
John wrote:
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 62,200 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!
Where are these limits you speak of? Who proposes there is nothing? Believers cant even come together on a god. There are approx 1200 world religions. They cant all be right. If you dont believe in all 1200(ish) gods, then you are an atheist also, I just go one god further than you and say that one doesnt exist either. All religions cannot be right, but they can all be wrong.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#64820 Oct 25, 2012
There is no sense feeding that troll he is unable to use reason or answer any questions and merely copies and pastes the same old Bullsht. As you can go back and see several have tried to be kind and answer his inane questions. It does no good.

Best to change the subject and let the troll starve.
Ouja wrote:
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Where are these limits you speak of? Who proposes there is nothing? Believers cant even come together on a god. There are approx 1200 world religions. They cant all be right. If you dont believe in all 1200(ish) gods, then you are an atheist also, I just go one god further than you and say that one doesnt exist either. All religions cannot be right, but they can all be wrong.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#64821 Oct 25, 2012
The best way to starve the troll is to move on to other, hopefully better threads and bail out of this one.
John

United States

#64822 Oct 25, 2012
You loons have nothing to post without the God you don't believe in. This forum is a joke. What do you believe in this arena? It's only been three years now.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. Nothing to it LOL.

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