Atheists on the march in America

Atheists on the march in America

There are 70650 comments on the TurkishPress.com story from Aug 26, 2009, titled Atheists on the march in America. In it, TurkishPress.com reports that:

When South Florida atheists held their first meeting, they were just five friends, having a beer at a bar.

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John

United States

#64659 Oct 5, 2012
I see. The chunky blocks are responsible for your lunacy. It was the altitude for Obama. So many excuses lmao.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#64661 Oct 5, 2012
John wrote:
Several more posts with more nothing. It is strange this forum exists. Perhaps it is about something else.
And yet you keep posting in it. So you're saying that you are posting in a forum that you don't understand? Why would any rational person do that?
John wrote:
Drew the only claim I've made is you have no evidence that meets your criteria.
Why would I have evidence, John? I'm not the one making the claim.*You* are. If you have no evidence, then on what basis do you want us to buy your claim?
John wrote:
Despite your lack of evidence, despite your lack of proven criteria to quantify evidence
I'm not quantifying evidence, John. I'm qualifying it. I provide rules for evidence, because you're afraid to do so.
John wrote:
your forum insists on attacking a God you don't believe in
No, John, we're not attacking any gods. We're attacking *irrational beliefs* in gods. Your belief is obviously irrational, since (1) you have no evidence for a god, and (2) you have no rules for evidence.
John wrote:
...as if there are not evidences and reasons to believe in something larger than us.
Until you produce any "evidences and reasons", why believe in something "larger than us"?
John

United States

#64662 Oct 5, 2012
I respond to your nothing and expose you for various reasons. Part of it is entertainment and part of it is to stop the consequences of your bigotry.

Calling something rational or irrational does not make it so. You can't even make up a rational position, much less debate an accountable, evidence backed one. Being a truer freethinker than yourself I've provided an accountable position I will debate vs any other.

Your true colors are revealed with each avoidance. Go argue with someone else over your made up rules. I know that in three years in your own forum there has not been one logical or rational attempt to debate your nothing. Your words tell me you think this is reasonable but your inactions reveal the realization of your farce.

Still nothing about atheism in an atheism.forum. I just asked what you believe. Why are you so.concerned with a God you don't believe in? You claim there is no evidence for a prime mover. Prove it! That won't happen you only do nothing.
Atheism exposed 101.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#64663 Oct 5, 2012
John wrote:
I respond to your nothing and expose you for various reasons. Part of it is entertainment and part of it is to stop the consequences of your bigotry.
Calling something rational or irrational does not make it so. You can't even make up a rational position, much less debate an accountable, evidence backed one. Being a truer freethinker than yourself I've provided an accountable position I will debate vs any other.
Your true colors are revealed with each avoidance. Go argue with someone else over your made up rules. I know that in three years in your own forum there has not been one logical or rational attempt to debate your nothing. Your words tell me you think this is reasonable but your inactions reveal the realization of your farce.
Still nothing about atheism in an atheism.forum. I just asked what you believe. Why are you so.concerned with a God you don't believe in? You claim there is no evidence for a prime mover. Prove it! That won't happen you only do nothing.
Atheism exposed 101.
Prove there's no phased invisible pink unicorn behind you. Your demands exposed 101.(shrug)

You may have more luck with Skeptic and Givemeliberty. They don't have a clue what they're talking about either, so you'd be on a level playing field.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#64664 Oct 5, 2012
The irony meter just exploded. It is amusing how much control I have over you so much you must post about me even in posts having nothing to do with me whatsoever. You are completely obsessed to the point of parody.

You may bow or pray to me as you wish. Certainly you fundamentally and devoutly follow me even preaching about me when I am not present.

I seem to do that to your weak minded superstitious ilk.

I give you permission to take a sabbath ok? It is fine my humble follower, your better approves a break.

I am all about reason and progressing society past the superstitious destructive ways of the past. I have no interest is fighting for the ways of religious madness nor being an enabler to the stone throwers in the story of the lottery unlike who would be shout down a man of reason screaming, perhaps stoning people to death and spilling their blood does help the crops grow! It's possible!

I pity you. Go in peace oh superstitious enabler, peace be with you.
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Prove there's no phased invisible pink unicorn behind you. Your demands exposed 101.(shrug)
You may have more luck with Skeptic and Givemeliberty. They don't have a clue what they're talking about either, so you'd be on a level playing field.

Since: Apr 11

Los Angeles, CA

#64665 Oct 5, 2012
John wrote:
I respond to your nothing and expose you for various reasons. Part of it is entertainment and part of it is to stop the consequences of your bigotry.
Calling something rational or irrational does not make it so. You can't even make up a rational position, much less debate an accountable, evidence backed one. Being a truer freethinker than yourself I've provided an accountable position I will debate vs any other.
OK. Let's debate.
Do you think it would be possible for (your) god to exist, yet there be no evidence of his existence?
A deist would probably answer that question with a "yes". What about you?
John wrote:
Your true colors are revealed with each avoidance.
You are the one avoiding debate.
John wrote:
Go argue with someone else over your made up rules. I know that in three years in your own forum there has not been one logical or rational attempt to debate your nothing. Your words tell me you think this is reasonable but your inactions reveal the realization of your farce.
Still nothing about atheism in an atheism.forum. I just asked what you believe. Why are you so.concerned with a God you don't believe in? You claim there is no evidence for a prime mover. Prove it! That won't happen you only do nothing.
Atheism exposed 101.
Again...
1. If god exists, there is evidence of his existence.
2. There is no evidence of god's existence.
3. There is no god.
John

United States

#64666 Oct 5, 2012
Rose you are a bigot and a coward. You have yet to present any evidence or accountable position. You just hate a God you don't believe in. Kind of crazy, but whatever.
1. If Rose had a conscience there would be evidence of one.
2. There is no evidence of your conscience.
3. Your conscience does not exist.
Once again Rose refuses to debate. I have tutored you on what the difference is between belief and disbelief. I'm not here to convert you, I'm here to expose you.
How long will the loons avoid their illogical nothing? Stay tuned.
Stump Rose! Ask her what she believes.
Still nothing Rose. That's purposeful as you don't dare debate vs a prime mover. I will laugh at Drew's nothing next. No wonder people think ill of atheists. It is not the nothing per se, but the character flaws. I won't give up on you though.
Come on, tell us about this magic nothing that poofs universes.
Stump an antitheist! Explain the difference between belief and disbelief.

Since: Apr 11

Los Angeles, CA

#64667 Oct 5, 2012
John wrote:
Rose you are a bigot and a coward. You have yet to present any evidence or accountable position.
Why lie?
Here it is, again...

1. If god exists, there is evidence of his existence.
2. There is no evidence of god's existence.
3. There is no god.

Since: Apr 11

Los Angeles, CA

#64668 Oct 5, 2012
Well, John, it's beyond obvious you won't debate, and that's because you have no evidence of god's existence. You just have your faith.

And unless you decide to debate, this is my last post to you.
John

United States

#64669 Oct 5, 2012
What does Rose believe? Guess we will never know.
It's beyond obvious she has no accountable position, evidence, or logic.
She certainly wants no part of debating the reasons to believe in a prime mover vs her nothing. Make the case for your nothing Rose. You'll do as well as making a case for Obama.
A forum about nothing lmao.
John

United States

#64670 Oct 5, 2012
Another day of ineptitude from the antitheists.*Note to lurkers* They have gone almost three years without giving one accountable position they are willing to debate. Three years without an example of evidence that meets their criteria for evidence. These are angry agenda driven folks that don't give a damn about the evidence.
If you want to subject yourself to this farce by all means see for yourself. Antitheists you could also just cut and paste one of the 62,070 posts to show otherwise.
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe. True science that is repeatable and observable.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#64671 Oct 5, 2012
John wrote:
I see. The chunky blocks are responsible for your lunacy. It was the altitude for Obama. So many excuses lmao.
You want to debate, fine. Have a go at it, and this time ORGANIZE.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#64672 Oct 6, 2012
John wrote:
I respond to your nothing and expose you for various reasons.
You haven't exposed anything, John, other than your desire to be an Internet troll.
John wrote:
Part of it is entertainment and part of it is to stop the consequences of your bigotry.
When did it become "bigotry" to point out when other people are engaging in an irrational belief.
John wrote:
Calling something rational or irrational does not make it so.
Calling a belief "irrational" when it is not backed by evidence and logic is justifiable. Unless the belief is backed by evidence and logic, what makes it "rational"?
John wrote:
You can't even make up a rational position
On the contrary, it is a rational position to reject belief when no evidence and logic is produced to justify one.
John wrote:
...much less debate an accountable, evidence backed one.
You don't have an accountable, evidence-backed position, John.
John wrote:
Being a truer freethinker than yourself...
You're not any kind of thinker, John. You're just an Internet troll.
John wrote:
I just asked what you believe.
I believe that you're an Internet troll, John. And my belief is based upon your behavior in this thread.
John wrote:
Why are you so.concerned with a God you don't believe in?
I'm not concerned with any gods. I'm concerned with people who have irrational beliefs and who act upon them.
John wrote:
You claim there is no evidence for a prime mover. Prove it!
I claim that none has been presented. If you won't present any, then I have nothing to prove. My claim has been justified.
John

United States

#64673 Oct 6, 2012
Your nothing is irrational Drew. You repeating it is bizzare. Make no mistake you have been exposed. Which is why you are unwilling to present your accountable position. Mine is a prime mover.

Make up a rational, logical beginning LOL. Those are just hollow words. I asked what you believed. Nothing is rational or logical to you.

There are what many consider evidences and reasons for a prime mover. I don't debate nothing so I guess I will just continue to expose you. It's only logical and I'm not the irrational bigot with a noncase.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#64675 Oct 7, 2012
John wrote:
Your nothing is irrational
I don't have a "nothing", John. Your years of misrepresentation won't change the fact that atheism is merely the lack of theistic belief. It is not a claim that "nothing" created anything. Yet you lie about it, regardless. Why are you such a liar?
John

United States

#64676 Oct 7, 2012
No, Drew your forums brand of atheism is not merely what you claim.Don't get pouty because you have been exposed. Does lack of something, such as evidence, rationality, logic work? Nothing is what it is. Dance like my puppet or leave out of embarassment.

Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#64677 Oct 7, 2012
John wrote:
your forums
I don't have a forum, John. The forum belongs to Topix.
John wrote:
Don't get pouty because you have been exposed.
When have you ever exposed anything, John?(Other than you inability to debate?)
John wrote:
Does lack of something, such as evidence, rationality, logic work?
It doesn't work in your favor, John, since you lack any evidence or logic for your "prime mover". Therefore, your position is a non-starter.

Produce evidence or leave, John.

Since: Apr 11

Los Angeles, CA

#64678 Oct 7, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have a forum, John. The forum belongs to Topix.
<quoted text>
When have you ever exposed anything, John?(Other than you inability to debate?)
<quoted text>
It doesn't work in your favor, John, since you lack any evidence or logic for your "prime mover". Therefore, your position is a non-starter.
Produce evidence or leave, John.
We need a "slam dunk" judge it icon.
John

United States

#64679 Oct 7, 2012
Nothing will never cut it Rose. The only thing that has been a slam dunk is me exposing your hypocritical agenda. There is still no evidence that satisfies your arbitrary standard. If there was you would produce it.
So howling at a God you don't believe in is quite comical.
It is so sad that you have a forum about nothing. Since you are so fixated on my something I made the offer to debate my accountable position vs any other. I knew that wouldn't happen as you cannot make any sense of this facade you keep up. Hey, if you think my something takes the spotlight off of your nothing have at it. The reality is it only further exposes how illogical and irrational your nothing is.
All this because I simply asked what you believed. Well?
Stump an antitheist! Ask them what they believe.
John

United States

#64680 Oct 7, 2012
You make the presupposition that there is no evidence without admitting you do not have the scientifically measurable evidence to support your position of nothing. You have placed limits on what may be limitless. You have placed limits where they need not be. Thus far I have seen no evidence provided by an atheist that would support what is disingenuously called natural mechanisms only. If you think there isn't evidence of design you would be wrong. Admittedly, this can not be proven using your constricting criteria, but nothing in this arena has been proven using this standard. You know this by now. That is why it is so frustrating to the forum when it's pointed out. Judging by the ever-growing anecdotal evidence of this forum overwhelmingly congregated by atheists, atheism is something else entirely. There is a large contingent of antitheists, a portion devoted to secular humanism, and some interplay with other assorted isms. The common denominator is that every single one of these positions is lacking in evidence. The notion that man is the be all end all is flawed in my opinion. Of course you wish to shirk any burden of proof. That's transparent and shows a weak position. Atheism has been co-opted by the new atheist. Much more vocal and commited to breaking down the populace writ large that actually do have a position. I've given more than enough opportunity for atheists to engage in debate that is not circular. The brilliance and weakness of atheism is no accountability. That's why it's not challenging to debate this topic with you loons. Apologies to the few that aren't driven by more than uncertainty. When Reagan debated Gorbachev on our nuclear arsenals each man had a position. If there was a political debate the political atheist would attack the other position and not have to be responsible for one himself. If one football team was atheist and the other was not they would have the ball on offense the whole game. Fumble, and the ball would be returned. This is what you ask for here, but is unacceptable in every other topic. I'm conservative btw. A rational freethinker. I'm sure you are a centrist LOL. What's the mushy middle thought on government size, abortion, tax rates?
If there isn't a position don't bother responding. How is the fence DREW, Curious, Mikey,,,,? You got the post wedged good and deep yet? Stump an antitheist! Ask it what it believes. Still going strong 62,080 plus posts in.
Still nothing about atheism in the atheist forum. No position, no post #. Lies, spin, ad hominem, and boredom.
Waiting for an example of what passes the cut for evidence from atheists. Cowards!

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