“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1634 May 17, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>You know, I had never thought much about what life was like under Roman rule. The first article I found on the subject was, to my surprise, by HG Wells, and I quite enjoyed it. It depicts Roman rule as being fairly light-handed but tainted by the empire's slave culture:
http://www.bartleby.com/86/35.html
Much more detailed that the next two I looked at, it was nevertheless fairly consistent with them. It think the lesson for modern culture is pretty clear: no matter how benevolently occupations ares administered, they are inherently intolerable to most occupied populations:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/H...
http://www.english.imjnet.org.il/page_925
The lesson is clear: better to negotiate changes with existing governments when possible than to overthrow them and create societies in which localized terrorism becomes a necessity for anyone with a hint of national pride.
Oh, I agree.

It seems that the "tribalism" meme is firmly implanted in our genetic dispositions.

:)

I was reminded of the movie The Life Of Brian, when I was reading your posts.

Remember the scene where they are asking, "What have the (with disdain) Romans ever done for US?"

... and the resultant conversation was Brilliant.

:D

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#1635 May 17, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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So Christians invented their mythology around his stuff then? Big deal.
That's brilliant. Christians built religious mythology around Nero's historian Tacitus, who regarded them as an insignificant cult led by a rube.

You can always find it, Dude - the ONE MOST total idiot-angle.

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#1636 May 17, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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That still makes your position monumentally massively hypocritical. Something you've never been able to escape. Certainly your donut is finite.
You call it hypocritical because you can't grasp it.

"If X caused the universe, what caused X", which you repeatedly employ, is a grammar school level argument, and it has been dismissed by all adults who seriously discuss the matter.

The exception might be Richard Dawkins, assuming one accepts him as a serious adult, which is not at all a settled matter.


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#1637 May 17, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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You're learning.
I learned long ago that Tacitus' account was likely correct.

Sorry you didn't.

Maybe you should start with something simpler.

Can you tie your shoes?
KJV

United States

#1638 May 17, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Actually?

There is quite a bit of evidence, that he has much less access....

... just judging by his rather uneducated posts.
This coming from the biggest loser on these threads.

Too funny! bobby bobby bobby.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1639 May 17, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
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This coming from the biggest loser on these threads.
Too funny! bobby bobby bobby.[/QUOTE]

Yes, yes it is-- funny.

It is so good of you to admit that you are a loser.

But I hardly think you are the biggest-- your feeble efforts barely qualify as "ordinary failure", let alone "biggest failure".

That award would go to other posters-- not you.

You are just not that original.

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#1640 May 17, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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It's the.number that evokes fear.
To the prepubescent boys in the neighborhood?

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#1641 May 18, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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I learned long ago that Tacitus' account was likely correct.
Sorry you didn't.
Maybe you should start with something simpler.
Can you tie your shoes?
Coming from the guy that believes water can turn into wine and that fossils aren't "really there".

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#1642 May 18, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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You call it hypocritical because you can't grasp it.
"If X caused the universe, what caused X", which you repeatedly employ, is a grammar school level argument, and it has been dismissed by all adults who seriously discuss the matter.
The exception might be Richard Dawkins, assuming one accepts him as a serious adult, which is not at all a settled matter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =LxL8AwT7ObYXX
Classic creationist - attempt to attack dawkins because you cannot attack atheism

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#1643 May 18, 2013
Buck hasn't actually bothered to explain why this "grammar school" argument is false by the way...

people from the discovery institute like buck are mentally ill.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1644 May 18, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
Buck hasn't actually bothered to explain why this "grammar school" argument is false by the way...
people from the discovery institute like buck are mentally ill.
Except for the people who stand to make huge piles of cash-money from idiots and gullible fools (like the Buckster).

Those folks demonstrate they are sociopaths-- they tell these brain-damaged moron creationists what they want to hear, and in return? The creationists give them lots and LOTS of money.

I would imagine that they laugh all the way to their off-shore bank accounts.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#1645 May 21, 2013
Shibolet wrote:
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Hey! Hold on right there! I cited Josephus as a credible historical
source about Moses and the Exodus from Eghpt. As Jesus is concerned
I said that I would bet nothing about his existence. I said also that a man called Jesus might have existed but never the "Christ" of Paul.
Why are you citing anyone as a credible source on Moses? Historians are pretty much in agreement that Moses is a mythological figure and that the Israelites were never in Egypt.

Since: Feb 13

Los Angeles, CA

#1646 May 22, 2013
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Why are you citing anyone as a credible source on Moses? Historians are pretty much in agreement that Moses is a mythological figure and that the Israelites were never in Egypt.
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What do you know? I am part of a People who celebrate Passover every year for thousands of years reminding every new generation of the Exodus from Egypt. You were born "yesterday" and want to tell us that it never appened? You are simply doing nothing different from the modern deniers of the Holocaust already exercising the world to deny the Holocaust as a myth. Nice try but it missed the target.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#1647 May 22, 2013
Shibolet wrote:
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What do you know? I am part of a People who celebrate Passover every year for thousands of years reminding every new generation of the Exodus from Egypt. You were born "yesterday" and want to tell us that it never appened? You are simply doing nothing different from the modern deniers of the Holocaust already exercising the world to deny the Holocaust as a myth. Nice try but it missed the target.
There's a huge difference. The Holocaust is documented historical fact, while the stories about Moses have no documentation outside of the Torah itself even though there are records that should have included at least some of the events depicted in Exodus and perhaps some of the patriarchal books within Genesis. One can quite rationally doubt the one but not the other without the anti-Semitic bias that you imply.

I think you should apologize to DS.

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#1648 May 22, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>There's a huge difference. The Holocaust is documented historical fact, while the stories about Moses have no documentation outside of the Torah itself even though there are records that should have included at least some of the events depicted in Exodus and perhaps some of the patriarchal books within Genesis. One can quite rationally doubt the one but not the other without the anti-Semitic bias that you imply.
I think you should apologize to DS.
Apologize to DS??

DS had this exchange with me:

Buck Crick wrote:

<quoted text>
"There is a contradiction unless you use different rules."

Darwin's Stepchild wrote:

"No contradiction. The contradiction arises IF you try to use the same rules."

Is that funny, or what?
Thinking

Sturminster Newton, UK

#1649 May 22, 2013
So what? Wishing doesn't make something real. Some people would worship a turd on a string if they were told to.
Shibolet wrote:
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What do you know? I am part of a People who celebrate Passover every year for thousands of years reminding every new generation of the Exodus from Egypt. You were born "yesterday" and want to tell us that it never appened? You are simply doing nothing different from the modern deniers of the Holocaust already exercising the world to deny the Holocaust as a myth. Nice try but it missed the target.

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#1650 May 23, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Apologize to DS??
DS had this exchange with me:
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
"There is a contradiction unless you use different rules."
Darwin's Stepchild wrote:
"No contradiction. The contradiction arises IF you try to use the same rules."
Is that funny, or what?
The defeated lying creationist piece of sh*t return for more embarassment.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#1651 May 23, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Apologize to DS??
DS had this exchange with me:
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
"There is a contradiction unless you use different rules."
Darwin's Stepchild wrote:
"No contradiction. The contradiction arises IF you try to use the same rules."
Is that funny, or what?
Unless you also write as Shibolet, I don't see what the above has to do with my suggestion that he apologize to DS. Not everything is about you, Buck.

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#1652 May 23, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
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Unless you also write as Shibolet, I don't see what the above has to do with my suggestion that he apologize to DS. Not everything is about you, Buck.
Point taken, but I wanted to get that jab in.

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#1653 May 23, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Point taken.
Great, now f*ck off.

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