A Proof That God Exists

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#1511 May 6, 2013
Normal Flora wrote:
Damn that is one HUGE supraorbital ridge you got there, Buck!! No wonder you don't believe in evolution!!
Buck is the proud owned of an occipital bun.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#1512 May 7, 2013
Normal Flora wrote:
Damn that is one HUGE supraorbital ridge you got there, Buck!! No wonder you don't believe in evolution!!
Turns out it's just an actors pictures that he uses as his display picture.
He then lies like the good little Christian he is and says it's him.
I forget the name of the actor, but it was said some time in the past week on another thread.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#1513 May 7, 2013
Has anyone else seen this:



Dr, Richard Carrier discusses the argument for a non-historical Jesus.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#1514 May 7, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
Has anyone else seen this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =mwUZOZN-9dcXX
Dr, Richard Carrier discusses the argument for a non-historical Jesus.
That was incredibly good!

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#1515 May 7, 2013
Normal Flora wrote:
Damn that is one HUGE supraorbital ridge you got there, Buck!! No wonder you don't believe in evolution!!
You are far from the fist to notice my hugeness, NormaFourInTheFloor.

Appreciated, none the less.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#1516 May 7, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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That was incredibly good!
Thanks, man.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#1517 May 7, 2013
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Buck is the proud owned of an occipital bun.
The boys call you "honey buns". Right, Darwin's Slapshot?

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#1518 May 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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LOL!
Brilliant!
Thanks, man.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1519 May 7, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Thanks, man.
Wasn't speaking to you, butt-cheeks.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#1520 May 7, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Exactly, but not a new prevarication. I am restoring time you have removed. Suspension occurred when tension was placed on the chain to lift the chandelier to the ceiling. The tension remains until something causes the force to be removed which will in turn cause it to fall.
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Not at all. I am aware of the inevitable regression to other causes (which I have no problem with), which we can take as far back to the beginning of the universe itself, which inevitably leads us to something that (barring an infinite string of causes) is uncaused, something which you hypocritically allow for your position but not for us. Despite the fact that your position appeals to a magical wizard for which you have zero scientific evidence. At this point your position requires you to make use of a "pure logic" argument due to the fact that you know you are unable to back up your claims past the point of universal singularity using scientific evidence or scientific testing. In other words you invent axioms which may or may not be relevant to reality and have no way of knowing but proclaim them as Gospel (if you'll excuse the deliciously appropriate term) which is exactly the same mistake that Aristotle made millenia ago.
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Which removes time as a factor. I put that back in and you merely attempt to dismiss it.
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All of which required the ball to be previously placed on the pillow and the log to fall into the water.
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Whereas your breathing apparatus is permanently attached to the exhaust pipe, inevitably leading to your rear end.(shrug)
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On the contrary that original Greek I gave you was quite old. Like I said, you want the fundie-caricature of the term. In which case I provide you with Skippy the 'Skeptic', the fundamentalist atheist of your dreams. He is in many ways your alter-ego.
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Go boom. Irony meter duz it.
Idiot, the chandelier is being suspended NOW.

Time is in effect - it was suspended yesterday, today, and likely tomorrow unless the CAUSE of the EFFECT is removed.

The chandelier is suspended (effect) by the chain (cause) and it is an asymmetric dependency relation occurring in time.

Prior causes, such as the installation, are PRIOR causality and are irrelevant to the SPECIFIC CAUSE/EFFECT RELATION being analyzed here.

If you are not smart enough to understand this, please don't comment on any of my posts, as you will simply continue to annoy the intelligent people, if there are any others on here.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#1521 May 7, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Suspension occurred when tension was placed on the chain to lift the chandelier to the ceiling. The tension remains until something causes the force to be removed which will in turn cause it
What is the cause of the tension remaining?

If the hanging of the chandelier is denoted t=0, what is the CAUSE of the chandelier's suspension above the floor IN TIME from t=1hour to t=2hours?

Answer: The attached chain

Are the cause and the effect occuring in time and simultaneously?

Answer: Yes

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1522 May 7, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Idiot, the chandelier is being suspended NOW.
Time is in effect - it was suspended yesterday, today, and likely tomorrow unless the CAUSE of the EFFECT is removed.
The chandelier is suspended (effect) by the chain (cause) and it is an asymmetric dependency relation occurring in time.
Prior causes, such as the installation, are PRIOR causality and are irrelevant to the SPECIFIC CAUSE/EFFECT RELATION being analyzed here.
If you are not smart enough to understand this, please don't comment on any of my posts, as you will simply continue to annoy the intelligent people, if there are any others on here.
Are you SERIOUSLY this stupid?

Or did you take special "make Butt-Cheeks stupid" lessons?

They must have been exceptional lessons-- they were quite effective.

_-Alice-_

Since: Apr 13

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#1523 May 7, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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What is the cause of the tension remaining?
If the hanging of the chandelier is denoted t=0, what is the CAUSE of the chandelier's suspension above the floor IN TIME from t=1hour to t=2hours?
Answer: The attached chain
Are the cause and the effect occuring in time and simultaneously?
Answer: Yes
Buck Crick wrote:
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What is the cause of the tension remaining?
WHAT is the tensile strength of the material making up the attached chain relative to the weight of the chandelier (in Earth measurements)?

WHAT would happen if an Unladen Swallow brushed the chandelier while traveling at 1/2 the speed of light?

WHAT is your favourite colour?
Thinking

Salford, UK

#1524 May 8, 2013
African or European swallow?
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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WHAT is the tensile strength of the material making up the attached chain relative to the weight of the chandelier (in Earth measurements)?
WHAT would happen if an Unladen Swallow brushed the chandelier while traveling at 1/2 the speed of light?
WHAT is your favourite colour?

_-Alice-_

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#1525 May 8, 2013
Thinking wrote:
African or European swallow?
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WHAT? I don't kn....
Thinking

Salford, UK

#1526 May 8, 2013
I don't swallow either.
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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WHAT? I don't kn....

_-Alice-_

Since: Apr 13

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#1527 May 8, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I don't swallow either.
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I'm Asian.

Nuff said.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1528 May 8, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
Idiot, the chandelier is being suspended NOW.

Time is in effect - it was suspended yesterday, today, and likely tomorrow unless the CAUSE of the EFFECT is removed.

The chandelier is suspended (effect) by the chain (cause) and it is an asymmetric dependency relation occurring in time.

Prior causes, such as the installation, are PRIOR causality and are irrelevant to the SPECIFIC CAUSE/EFFECT RELATION being analyzed here.

If you are not smart enough to understand this, please don't comment on any of my posts, as you will simply continue to annoy the intelligent people, if there are any others on here.
If you remove time then there is no suspension. There is no need for suspension. You say suspension occurred yesterday, today and will tomorrow then that is because time is a factor. Without it no supension is needed. But you left out the day before yesterday, which was when somebody had to first hang the thing to the ceiling. To which we can lead back through a succession of cause and effect events until the beginning of time. At which point you disallow infinity and only allow something uncaused for your position, but none of ours. Like I said, hypocrisy.
Buck Crick wrote:
What is the cause of the tension remaining?
If the hanging of the chandelier is denoted t=0, what is the CAUSE of the chandelier's suspension above the floor IN TIME from t=1hour to t=2hours?
Answer: The attached chain
Are the cause and the effect occuring in time and simultaneously?
Answer: Yes
The CONTINUED tension in the chain occurs due to gravity. The chain was stretched deliberately and pulled up until tension began THEN the lift occurred which led the chandelier to the ceiling. There are a number of factors at work here:

Gravity.
Lift.
Chain flexibility.
Chain strength.
Tension.
Suspension.
(and then possibly, chain durability).

In THAT order. Break the chain (so to speak) the whole thing falls. Suspension will continue only if there is tension. Tension will only continue if the chain doesn't break. Lift will only continue as long as the ceiling prevents gravity from pulling it to the floor. Remove gravity then each successive cause and effect are no longer needed. I understand where you're coming from that some or all of these causes and effects can be occurring simultaneously. If one imagines a coloured bar graph with time being one header and phenomena being the other we can see that they all overlap in time, but not ALL times - it would follow the order of my list. There is no escaping time as a factor.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#1529 May 8, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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WHAT is the tensile strength of the material making up the attached chain relative to the weight of the chandelier (in Earth measurements)?
WHAT would happen if an Unladen Swallow brushed the chandelier while traveling at 1/2 the speed of light?
WHAT is your favourite colour?
'Bama Crimson.

I didn't understand your question about being laid 'n swallowed.

But I'll take a chance and answer "yes" to that one.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#1530 May 8, 2013
Thinking wrote:
African or European swallow?
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Yes, they do.

Had both in Miami.

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