“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#286 Apr 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
I wish I could be there to see the terror on your face as you slipped in to death and get pulled from the flames for a few seconds only to drop back into hell. That would be real neat don't ya think. Just long enough for me to say "See I told you so!"
This is pretty much what drives all theists to threaten eternal torture. At least you admit to your sick, twisted, immoral fanatasies. Do you masturbate to this fantasy very often?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#287 Apr 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Either the universe always existed or it didn't.
Correct.
"You failed to show "nothingness" was "before"
Nobody claimed that.
If the universe started then there was a before.
This is your basic mistake. If time began when the universe began (so both started), then there could not have been a 'before' because 'before' requires *time*.
Before the universe there was nothing or the universe was still there in any form and so always existed.
Or 'before' is meaningless in this context.
Your science claims the universe had a start
It also claims that time itself began at the same point.
therefore if there was a start then there was a before the universe existed sense there is nothing outside the universe there was nothing.
Once again, you are assuming that it makes sense to talk about 'before'. That is your basic mistake.
Or else science is wrong and the universe always existed.
If the universe always existed, then you have no proof of a deity. If time began at the same point as the universe, then there could not have been a 'before' so no deity is possible. It is only the situation where there was time before the universe *and* the universe had a beginning that you have any argument at all. Even then, you did not succeed in proving that the universe was caused, or that the cause was unique, or that the cause was intelligent, or that the cause resembles your deity in any way.
the universe a
Kind of blows your little atheist mind doesn't it?
Not even close. This shallow level of analysis resembles what I saw through in 5th grade. I grew up.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#288 Apr 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
A gravitational singularity or spacetime singularity is a location where the quantities that are used to measure the gravitational field become infinite in a way that does not depend on the coordinate system. These quantities are the scalar invariant curvatures of spacetime, which includes a measure of the density of matter.
For the purposes of proving the Penrose–Hawking singularity theorems, a spacetime with a singularity is defined to be one that contains geodesics that cannot be extended in a smooth manner. The end of such a geodesic is considered to be the singularity. This is a different definition, useful for proving theorems.
The two most important types of spacetime singularities are curvature singularities and conical singularities. Singularities can also be divided according to whether they are covered by an event horizon or not (naked singularities). According to general relativity, the initial state of the universe, at the beginning of the Big Bang, was a singularity. Both general relativity and quantum mechanics break down in describing the Big Bang, but in general, quantum mechanics does not permit particles to inhabit a space smaller than their wavelengths. Another type of singularity predicted by general relativity is inside a black hole: any star collapsing beyond a certain point (the Schwarzschild radius) would form a black hole, inside which a singularity (covered by an event horizon) would be formed, as all the matter would flow into a certain point (or a circular line, if the black hole is rotating). This is again according to general relativity without quantum mechanics, which forbids wavelike particles entering a space smaller than their wavelength. These hypothetical singularities are also known as curvature singularities.
Ah, good KJV. You just proved you can copy and paste. But really? Wikipedia? Come on, there are much better sources available. And one should always give credit when one uses an excerpt.

Now...can you prove you understand what you just copied. Please give a concise explanation in your own words.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#289 Apr 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
I wish I could be there to see the terror on your face as you slipped in to death and get pulled from the flames for a few seconds only to drop back into hell. That would be real neat don't ya think. Just long enough for me to say "See I told you so!"
Your evil is without limit.

You literally get obvious sexual gratification at the torture-fantasy of your terrorist-god putting people into lava-pits.

That is beyond disgusting: it is depraved.

Seek professional help.

Seriously-- you are two hairs from becoming a serial killer.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#290 Apr 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"THREATS???"
"ONLY A HATER WOULD FANTASIZE ABOUT INFINITE TORTURE."
I just want to be there and comfort my
Dying friend on his death bed.
I would hate to hear that he died instantly with no chance of redemption.
KJV wrote:
I wish I could be there to see the terror on your face as you slipped in to death and get pulled from the flames for a few seconds only to drop back into hell. That would be real neat don't ya think. Just long enough for me to say "See I told you so!"
Your evil is without limit.

You literally get obvious sexual gratification at the torture-fantasy of your terrorist-god putting people into lava-pits.

That is beyond disgusting: it is depraved.

Seek professional help.

Seriously-- you are two hairs from becoming a serial killer.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#291 Apr 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Either the universe always existed or it didn't.
"You failed to show "nothingness" was "before"
If the universe started then there was a before. Before the universe there was nothing or the universe was still there in any form and so always existed. Your science claims the universe had a start therefore if there was a start then there was a before the universe existed sense there is nothing outside the universe there was nothing. Or else science is wrong and the universe always existed.
Either way science is wrong and there is proof for God.
Kind of blows your little atheist mind doesn't it?
None of your ugly above, addresses even ONE of my points.

Just so you know.

But I am on to you: you are so full of evil hate it is disgusting to read your horrid words.

I hope you get professional help, before you start trying to act out your horrid sexual-torture fantasies.

You disgust me.
Imhotep

Hernando, FL

#292 Apr 7, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"THREATS???"
"ONLY A HATER WOULD FANTASIZE ABOUT INFINITE TORTURE."
I just want to be there and comfort my
Dying friend on his death bed.
I would hate to hear that he died instantly with no chance of redemption.
I wish I could be there to see the terror on your face as you slipped in to death and get pulled from the flames for a few seconds only to drop back into hell. That would be real neat don't ya think. Just long enough for me to say "See I told you so!"
The only terror you'd see on my face is if I had to attend church!

This imaginary terror you keep posting about is a waste of time.

Hell, like heaven and Purgatory for the Catholics, simply doesn't exist - it's dogma not fact.

Thus the necessity for an alter ego let's call the alter ego Satan.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#293 Apr 7, 2013
Shibolet wrote:
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All you all do is pleading with your foundless arguments by making
up excuses to safeguard your preconceived notions.
So your response to having your logical fallacy pointed out, is to say "I know you are, so what am I?"

Hey, when you come up with some real proof of god, without resorting to childish logical fallacy, an infantile tactics, let me know.
you have failed. Your idea that "The universe exists, so it must prove there is a god." Doesn't fly. Your continued babbleing about "Everything has to follow this or that laws of phyisics except my argument" is childish, and fails.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#294 Apr 7, 2013
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, good KJV. You just proved you can copy and paste. But really? Wikipedia? Come on, there are much better sources available. And one should always give credit when one uses an excerpt.
Now...can you prove you understand what you just copied. Please give a concise explanation in your own words.
And KJV went to the effort of stripping the text of its references to the notes below, which moves the act from copy/paste to outright plagiarism--why do that except as an effort to present the text as one's own work?

Here are those notes, some of which are a bit unsusal:

Notes

1.^ a b Delio, Ilia (2011). The Emergent Christ: Exploring the Meaning of Catholic in an Evolutionary Universe. Maryknoll NY: Orbis Books. p. 183. ISBN 978-1570759086.
2.^ Moulay, Emmanuel. "The universe and photons". FQXi Foundational Questions Institute. Retrieved 26 December 2012.
3.^ Uggla, Claes. "Spacetime singularities". Einstein Online. Max Planck Institute for Gravitational Physics.
4.^ Patrick Di Justo, Kevin Grazier, Patrick and Kevin Grazier (2010). The Science of Battlestar Galactica. New York: John Wiley & Sons. p. 181. ISBN 978-0470399095.
5,^ Hawking, Stephen. "The Beginning of Time". Stephen Hawking: The Official Website. Cambridge University. Retrieved 26 December 2012.
6.^ Zebrowski, Ernest (2000). A History of the Circle: Mathematical Reasoning and the Physical Universe. Piscataway NJ: Rutgers University Press. p. 180. ISBN 978-0813528984.
7.^ Curiel, Eric and Peter Bokulich. "Singularities and Black Holes". Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Center for the Study of Language and Information, Stanford University. Retrieved 26 December 2012.
8.^ Poplawski, N. J.(2012). "Nonsingular, big-bounce cosmology from spinor-torsion coupling". Physical Review D 85: 107502. arXiv:1111.4595. Bibcode:2012PhRvD..85j7502P. doi:10.1103/PhysRevD.85.107502 .
9.^ If a rotating singularity is given a uniform electrical charge, a repellent force results, causing a ring singularity to form. The effect may be a stable wormhole, a non-point-like puncture in spacetime that may be connected to a second ring singularity on the other end. Although such wormholes are often suggested as routes for faster-than-light travel, such suggestions ignore the problem of escaping the black hole at the other end, or even of surviving the immense tidal forces in the tightly curved interior of the wormhole.
Imhotep

Hernando, FL

#295 Apr 7, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>
And KJV went to the effort of stripping the text of its references to the notes below, which moves the act from copy/paste to outright plagiarism--why do that except as an effort to present the text as one's own work?
Here are those notes, some of which are a bit unsusal:
Notes
1.^ a b Delio, Ilia (2011). The Emergent Christ: Exploring the Meaning of Catholic in an Evolutionary Universe. Maryknoll NY: Orbis Books. p. 183. ISBN 978-1570759086.
2.^ Moulay, Emmanuel. "The universe and photons". FQXi Foundational Questions Institute. Retrieved 26 December 2012.
3.^ Uggla, Claes. "Spacetime singularities". Einstein Online. Max Planck Institute for Gravitational Physics.
4.^ Patrick Di Justo, Kevin Grazier, Patrick and Kevin Grazier (2010). The Science of Battlestar Galactica. New York: John Wiley & Sons. p. 181. ISBN 978-0470399095.
5,^ Hawking, Stephen. "The Beginning of Time". Stephen Hawking: The Official Website. Cambridge University. Retrieved 26 December 2012.
6.^ Zebrowski, Ernest (2000). A History of the Circle: Mathematical Reasoning and the Physical Universe. Piscataway NJ: Rutgers University Press. p. 180. ISBN 978-0813528984.
7.^ Curiel, Eric and Peter Bokulich. "Singularities and Black Holes". Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Center for the Study of Language and Information, Stanford University. Retrieved 26 December 2012.
8.^ Poplawski, N. J.(2012). "Nonsingular, big-bounce cosmology from spinor-torsion coupling". Physical Review D 85: 107502. arXiv:1111.4595. Bibcode:2012PhRvD..85j7502P. doi:10.1103/PhysRevD.85.107502 .
9.^ If a rotating singularity is given a uniform electrical charge, a repellent force results, causing a ring singularity to form. The effect may be a stable wormhole, a non-point-like puncture in spacetime that may be connected to a second ring singularity on the other end. Although such wormholes are often suggested as routes for faster-than-light travel, such suggestions ignore the problem of escaping the black hole at the other end, or even of surviving the immense tidal forces in the tightly curved interior of the wormhole.
My apologies to Mel Blanc


‘Be Werry Werry careful …wittle wabbit…’
~Mel Blanc

These posters are devoid of logic and zero research skills as you have quite eloquently pointed out.

I admire your stamina but I hardly think these people are worth it.

Their psyche is already frozen and locked solid in dogma. For these people there is literally no escape.

So lying is the only thing left to them

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#296 Apr 7, 2013
Shibolet wrote:
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No, my Ego demands Logic which is what you guys don't have.
By the way Bob, every single post of yours although with material which I wish I could respond, I am deterred to do so if I find even one ad hominem. And this until you learn to be more civilized.
NO, your ego demands special pleading for all of the rules you demand that others follow.
Can matter come from non-matter? No...Except for your god.
Do all things have a beginning? Yes.....Except for your god.
Can non-matter created matter? No.....Except for your god.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#297 Apr 7, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"THREATS???"
"ONLY A HATER WOULD FANTASIZE ABOUT INFINITE TORTURE."
I just want to be there and comfort my
Dying friend on his death bed.
I would hate to hear that he died instantly with no chance of redemption.
I wish I could be there to see the terror on your face as you slipped in to death and get pulled from the flames for a few seconds only to drop back into hell. That would be real neat don't ya think. Just long enough for me to say "See I told you so!"
Just like it would be really neat to be able to pull you back from the darkness of non-existance just long enough to say, "See, I told you there was no god"

The difference between us, is that I know that when you die, there will be nothing, so you won't suffer, etc... And I take neither joy nor sorrow from that. You won't know you were wrong, and that is really ok with me. YOU on the other hand, have this fantasy about those who do not believe the same way as you, burning and suffering in pain and agony for all of eternity. And you take delite in that!! It's pretty plain to see who has been corrupted by religion. What kind of terrible human delites in the suffering of others?
Imhotep

Hernando, FL

#298 Apr 7, 2013
Shibolet wrote:
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You ain't seen nothing yet.
Of course we have!

the nothing you're referring to is God.

And you haven't seen her either!

In fact not one living Homo sapiens has!

Oh I know you have your book but then so do 100 other religions and they all say, move or less the same thing. Vivid imagination!

Perhaps you should take the time to read it cover to cover you might actually learn something.

The greatest way to become irreligious is to READ this silly book.

Example:

Today’s scholars can only use the known, that is historical reigning Roman Emperors as a reference in determining dates.

So, since the BuyBull clearly and unambiguously claims that Jesus was born during the reign of Herod the King, then he, Jesus, had to have been born no later than 4 B.C.

What a delicious irony!

Jesus could only have been born a minimum of four years before the birth of Jesus.

After you stop laughing though, consider the import of this paradox.

Lol
KJV

United States

#299 Apr 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>KJV wrote, "
I wish I could be there to see the terror on your face as you slipped in to death and get pulled from the flames for a few seconds only to drop back into hell. That would be real neat don't ya think. Just long enough for me to say "See I told you so!""

Your evil is without limit.

You literally get obvious sexual gratification at the torture-fantasy of your terrorist-god putting people into lava-pits.

That is beyond disgusting: it is depraved.

Seek professional help.

Seriously-- you are two hairs from becoming a serial killer.

"I wish I could be there to see the terror on your face as you slipped in to death and get pulled from the flames for a few seconds only to drop back into hell. That would be real neat don't ya think. Just long enough for me to say "See I told you so!"
KJV

United States

#300 Apr 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>None of your ugly above, addresses even ONE of my points.

Just so you know.

But I am on to you: you are so full of evil hate it is disgusting to read your horrid words.

I hope you get professional help, before you start trying to act out your horrid sexual-torture fantasies.

You disgust me.
Wow.

"sexual-torture fantasies. "

bobby why would you think of sex with a posting like that. It proves your sickness.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#301 Apr 7, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"I wish I could be there to see the terror on your face as you slipped in to death and get pulled from the flames for a few seconds only to drop back into hell. That would be real neat don't ya think. Just long enough for me to say "See I told you so!"
Thankfully, you will never get that chance since it is all myth and sick fantasy.
KJV

United States

#302 Apr 7, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>The only terror you'd see on my face is if I had to attend church!

This imaginary terror you keep posting about is a waste of time.

Hell, like heaven and Purgatory for the Catholics, simply doesn't exist - it's dogma not fact.

Thus the necessity for an alter ego let's call the alter ego Satan.
No one is required to go to church.

Atheist are required to go to hell.

Nuf said.
KJV

United States

#303 Apr 7, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>And KJV went to the effort of stripping the text of its references to the notes below, which moves the act from copy/paste to outright plagiarism--why do that except as an effort to present the text as one's own work?

Here are those notes, some of which are a bit unsusal:

Notes

1.^ a b Delio, Ilia (2011). The Emergent Christ: Exploring the Meaning of Catholic in an Evolutionary Universe. Maryknoll NY: Orbis Books. p. 183. ISBN 978-1570759086.
2.^ Moulay, Emmanuel. "The universe and photons". FQXi Foundational Questions Institute. Retrieved 26 December 2012.
3.^ Uggla, Claes. "Spacetime singularities". Einstein Online. Max Planck Institute for Gravitational Physics.
4.^ Patrick Di Justo, Kevin Grazier, Patrick and Kevin Grazier (2010). The Science of Battlestar Galactica. New York: John Wiley & Sons. p. 181. ISBN 978-0470399095.
5,^ Hawking, Stephen. "The Beginning of Time". Stephen Hawking: The Official Website. Cambridge University. Retrieved 26 December 2012.
6.^ Zebrowski, Ernest (2000). A History of the Circle: Mathematical Reasoning and the Physical Universe. Piscataway NJ: Rutgers University Press. p. 180. ISBN 978-0813528984.
7.^ Curiel, Eric and Peter Bokulich. "Singularities and Black Holes". Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Center for the Study of Language and Information, Stanford University. Retrieved 26 December 2012.
8.^ Poplawski, N. J.(2012). "Nonsingular, big-bounce cosmology from spinor-torsion coupling". Physical Review D 85: 107502. arXiv:1111.4595. Bibcode:2012PhRvD..85j7502P. doi:10.1103/PhysRevD.85.107502 .
9.^ If a rotating singularity is given a uniform electrical charge, a repellent force results, causing a ring singularity to form. The effect may be a stable wormhole, a non-point-like puncture in spacetime that may be connected to a second ring singularity on the other end. Although such wormholes are often suggested as routes for faster-than-light travel, such suggestions ignore the problem of escaping the black hole at the other end, or even of surviving the immense tidal forces in the tightly curved interior of the wormhole.
Hey "nightgown" when you quote something you do not copy the whole article. You clip your point and attach a link. That's is how you do not plagiarize.

Get educated! Uff Da!
KJV

United States

#304 Apr 7, 2013
The serpent was right wrote:
<quoted text>Just like it would be really neat to be able to pull you back from the darkness of non-existance just long enough to say, "See, I told you there was no god"

The difference between us, is that I know that when you die, there will be nothing, so you won't suffer, etc... And I take neither joy nor sorrow from that. You won't know you were wrong, and that is really ok with me. YOU on the other hand, have this fantasy about those who do not believe the same way as you, burning and suffering in pain and agony for all of eternity. And you take delite in that!! It's pretty plain to see who has been corrupted by religion. What kind of terrible human delites in the suffering of others?
Yup.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#305 Apr 7, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey "nightgown" when you quote something you do not copy the whole article. You clip your point and attach a link. That's is how you do not plagiarize.
Get educated! Uff Da!
You missed the point. Before you posted, you stripped the text of the bracketed numbers that refer to the notes I posted. as in:

A gravitational singularity or spacetime singularity is a location where the quantities that are used to measure the gravitational field become infinite in a way that does not depend on the coordinate system.[1] <--

Why did you do that? The only reason I can think of is to disguise the fact that its original source had footnotes, and the only reason I can think of to do that is to present it as your own work. That is plagiarism, one of the worst forms of intellectual dishonesty. What little credibility you may have has under any of your various IDs is gone. You are busted.

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