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A PROOF THAT GOD EXISTS.

According to Moses Maimonides, a Philosopher, Theologian and Medical Doctor in his book "The Guide for the Perplexed," there would be no need for a Creator if the universe was eternal, I mean without beginning or end. In other words, God would not exist. However, if the universe did have a beginning, God by necessity would exist.

From Abraham and until Aristotle God existed only for the pious who could exercise faith. For Cosmologists God had only been a probability; extremely small nevertheless a probability. At the time of Aristotle that small probability had been erased as Aristotle discovered that the universe was eternal; no beginning and no end. The pious went on with their faith but as Science was concerned, the non-existence of God had been proved.

The line of thought that God's existence was depending on the universe having had a beginning lasted from about 330 BCE with Aristotle and until 1922 ACE with Georges Lemaitre a Catholic priest who brought the news about the Big Bang to the whole world as the beginning of the universe.

Cosmologists throughout the world had to adopt Lemaitre's discovery as the nearest approach to the truth they had ever achieved. Now, since the universe had indeed a beginning, a proof had been established for the existence of God, blessed be He.

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I didn't know there were people actually this dense that could still type.
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Richard Dawkins is proof that god exists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch...

I love it that the BBC audience gets the joke so quickly.

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Thinking wrote:
Richard Dawkins is proof that god exists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
I love it that the BBC audience gets the joke so quickly.
... yessss.....'e used.... sarcasm.

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Shibolet wrote:
A PROOF THAT GOD EXISTS.
According to Moses Maimonides, a Philosopher, Theologian and Medical Doctor in his book "The Guide for the Perplexed," there would be no need for a Creator if the universe was eternal, I mean without beginning or end. In other words, God would not exist. However, if the universe did have a beginning, God by necessity would exist.
From Abraham and until Aristotle God existed only for the pious who could exercise faith. For Cosmologists God had only been a probability; extremely small nevertheless a probability. At the time of Aristotle that small probability had been erased as Aristotle discovered that the universe was eternal; no beginning and no end. The pious went on with their faith but as Science was concerned, the non-existence of God had been proved.
The line of thought that God's existence was depending on the universe having had a beginning lasted from about 330 BCE with Aristotle and until 1922 ACE with Georges Lemaitre a Catholic priest who brought the news about the Big Bang to the whole world as the beginning of the universe.
Cosmologists throughout the world had to adopt Lemaitre's discovery as the nearest approach to the truth they had ever achieved. Now, since the universe had indeed a beginning, a proof had been established for the existence of God, blessed be He.
Shibolet
You fail to explain how Dr.Maimonides came to the conclusion that if the universe had a beginning it would require a god.

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The serpent was right wrote:
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You fail to explain how Dr.Maimonides came to the conclusion that if the universe had a beginning it would require a god.
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Probably because if the universe had a beginning after all and something can never be the creator of itself, the only way out was
to embrance the divine Creator.

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Thinking wrote:
Richard Dawkins is proof that god exists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
I love it that the BBC audience gets the joke so quickly.
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And you can say that again. But vanity has not spared man the arrogance to believe he knows better than any other man.

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I didn't know there were people actually this dense that could still type.
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You ain't seen nothing yet.

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Shibolet wrote:
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Probably because if the universe had a beginning after all and something can never be the creator of itself, the only way out was
to embrance the divine Creator.
Ben
If that is the premise you want to go by, than your creator would have to have a creator.

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Shibolet wrote:
A PROOF THAT GOD EXISTS.
According to Moses Maimonides, a Philosopher, Theologian and Medical Doctor in his book "The Guide for the Perplexed," there would be no need for a Creator if the universe was eternal, I mean without beginning or end. In other words, God would not exist. However, if the universe did have a beginning, God by necessity would exist.
From Abraham and until Aristotle God existed only for the pious who could exercise faith. For Cosmologists God had only been a probability; extremely small nevertheless a probability. At the time of Aristotle that small probability had been erased as Aristotle discovered that the universe was eternal; no beginning and no end. The pious went on with their faith but as Science was concerned, the non-existence of God had been proved.
The line of thought that God's existence was depending on the universe having had a beginning lasted from about 330 BCE with Aristotle and until 1922 ACE with Georges Lemaitre a Catholic priest who brought the news about the Big Bang to the whole world as the beginning of the universe.
Cosmologists throughout the world had to adopt Lemaitre's discovery as the nearest approach to the truth they had ever achieved. Now, since the universe had indeed a beginning, a proof had been established for the existence of God, blessed be He.
Shibolet
This proves what exactly?
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Shibolet wrote:
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Probably because if the universe had a beginning after all and something can never be the creator of itself, the only way out was
to embrance the divine Creator.
Ben
You are right; you are even more dense that I thought. Your claim, basically, is that nothing can be the creator of itself unless you need to violate that rule so your god can be an exception. And you expect to be taken seriously?

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ACE with Georges Lemaitre a Catholic priest who brought the news about the Big Bang to the whole world as the beginning of the universe.
The beginning of the universe in it's present form. How would anyone know if or how the universe existed in a different form prior to the BB? Nobody knows, that's why positing a god is just as likely as positing leprechauns or that the universe has always existed.

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Shibolet wrote:
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Probably because if the universe had a beginning after all and something can never be the creator of itself, the only way out was
to embrance the divine Creator.
Ben
You don't get out much, do you?

You assume that if we cannot immediately identify the cause of the universe, it MAGICALLY IS YOUR GOD?

Wow... just.. wow.

Look up false dichotomy.

In any case? The cause of the universes' beginning could easily have been from another universe.

Prove that is impossible.

Show your work.

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And you can say that again. But vanity has not spared man the arrogance to believe he knows better than any other man.
Ben
Your arrogance is without limit:

You actually believe that the Ultimate Cause of the entire Universe?

Has a close personal relationship with.... you.

Wow.

That level of arrogance is usually reserved for megalomaniacs.

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Shibolet wrote:
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You ain't seen nothing yet.
Promises, promises.

You True Believers™ promise us the moon.

But what you deliver is less than moldy cheese...
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You could help close the gap by raising your reasoning standards a bit.
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The serpent was right wrote:
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If that is the premise you want to go by, than your creator would have to have a creator.
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He would not be the Primal Cause of the Philosophers if He had been
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--The Master wrote:
<quoted text>This proves what exactly?
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This proves the fact that if something cannot have caused itself it
constitutes an evidence for the existence of a divine Creator.

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IRYW wrote:
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You are right; you are even more dense that I thought. Your claim, basically, is that nothing can be the creator of itself unless you need to violate that rule so your god can be an exception. And you expect to be taken seriously?
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You are as dense as you think I am. I have said this here more than
several times that if God was created it would be an evidence rather that He was not God. Light it up!

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The beginning of the universe in it's present form. How would anyone know if or how the universe existed in a different form prior to the BB? Nobody knows, that's why positing a god is just as likely as positing leprechauns or that the universe has always existed.
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If no one is able to know how the universe existed prior to the BB
and that nothing could have caused itself to exist how do you know that the idea of a divine Creator is impossible to be coneived? Sorry but you are contradicting yourself.

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