The Atheist God

There are 152 comments on the Daily Kos story from Oct 7, 2013, titled The Atheist God. In it, Daily Kos reports that:

An odd title I know, but maybe not as odd as one might think. I am an Atheist in the purest sense, but I am still in some ways forced to contemplate God, though it may not be my own.

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susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#105 Nov 22, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
Being Atheist does not mean you cannot be a good person or a good neighbor, it just means you are ungodly and don't have to account to anyone for your goodness or your lack of it.
Being ungodly identifies you as being of this world, and everyone is in that boat, except Jehovahs' witnesses who proclaim and prove they are no part of this world as Jesus taught and separated himself from this ungodly world.
Only the ungodly will be destroyed at Armageddon, the end of this world prophesied to be very soon.
2Peter 3:7
Actually, the wicked will have been cut off before "Armageddon". In the Hebrew bible it's called the "valley of decision". Joel 3:12-14. and all who remain Christian will be cut off by fire. Zechariah 14:12. This is the third judgment.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#106 Nov 22, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
...
Only the ungodly will be destroyed at Armageddon, the end of this world prophesied to be very soon.
2Peter 3:7
Well, Jehovah's Witnesses already guessed 1914 and 1975. Neither one seems to have panned out. I guess that make you a bit shy about getting pinned down to exact dates, right?
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#107 Nov 23, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, the wicked will have been cut off before "Armageddon". In the Hebrew bible it's called the "valley of decision". Joel 3:12-14. and all who remain Christian will be cut off by fire. Zechariah 14:12. This is the third judgment.
You communicate, but you say nothing that is worthwhile, especially when using the Bible as your authority. You do not know God's word or Almighty God Jehovah, you are just another windbag.
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#108 Nov 23, 2013
Amused wrote:
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Well, Jehovah's Witnesses already guessed 1914 and 1975. Neither one seems to have panned out. I guess that make you a bit shy about getting pinned down to exact dates, right?
You are following the teachings of men who believe J.W are false prophets
In 1914 the world war that Jehovah's witnesses prophesied, since 1879 did happen, and in 1975 the house of Jehovah was cleansed, the many unfaithful who were witnesses in name only until a certain day or year, are no longer Jehovah's witnesses.
Malachi 3:18
Revelation 6:4
Revelation 8: 12,13

Do not be misled, loyal and obedient witnesses or true Christians do imitate Jesus and preach, and will remain loyal and obedient until death or survival into God's new world.
2Peter 3:11-13

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#109 Nov 23, 2013
Amused wrote:
One can say that the possibility of the existence of a god cannot be completely ruled out, but that the probability of a god or gods is so low that it can be ignored as a practical matter.
Many of the founding fathers were deists. They believed in a god that created the universe, but played no active role in it after the act of creation. An eminently reasonable position at that point in history. Science had not advanced to the point where it was capable of modeling possible alternate explanations for the existence of the universe, so hypothesizing a supernatural event as a plausible explanation made sense given the information available. Clearly, the deists recognized that there was no evidence for the interventionist god of theism.
Even if theists had some evidence proving a creator god, in the absence of further evidence of an interventionist god, actively involved in the universe and interested in judging, rewarding, punishing and all the rest, they've only made the case for deism. Expending huge amounts of time, effort, blood and treasure attempting to propitiate an utterly indifferent deity would remain a vast waste. A deist god, being merely a first cause, need not necessarily still exist, and could as easily have been consumed in the act of creation.
This makes the task of theists twice as onerous. First, they need to prove that there was a creator god, and it isn't just turtles all the way down. Then, only after having done that, can they move on to the second part of the question, whether that god retains any involvement in the universe, or is simply irrelevant to everything after that first moment of creation. Or, in the alternative, explain why humans ought to worship a completely indifferent presence that is, at best, a passive observer that does not reward, punish, judge or respond to entreaties.
I'm gone from Topix for a few days, and I come back to this...

... a very elegant description of the onerous task that all True Believers™ face.

Nicely done.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#110 Nov 23, 2013
Thinking wrote:
When Lincunt is long dead and forgotten, Dawkins' peer reviewed science papers will still be available for all of us.
<quoted text>
And Darwin's "The Origin of Species" will still be in print.

;)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#111 Nov 23, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
Being Atheist does not mean you cannot be a good person or a good neighbor, it just means you are ungodly and don't have to account to anyone for your goodness or your lack of it.
Being ungodly identifies you as being of this world, and everyone is in that boat, except Jehovahs' witnesses who proclaim and prove they are no part of this world as Jesus taught and separated himself from this ungodly world.
Only the ungodly will be destroyed at Armageddon, the end of this world prophesied to be very soon.
2Peter 3:7
You are quite evil-- you utterly lack a single iota of empathy or compassion for your fellow humans.

In short? You are indistinguishable from an unfeeling robot.

Sad.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#112 Nov 23, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>
"I am an atheist, out and out. It took me a long time to say it. I've been an atheist for years and years, but somehow I felt it was intellectually unrespectable to say one was an atheist, because it assumed knowledge that one didn't have. Somehow, it was better to say one was a humanist or an agnostic.... I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time." ~ Isaac Asimov
A brilliant quote from a brilliant man.

Kudos!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#113 Nov 23, 2013
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, Jehovah's Witnesses already guessed 1914 and 1975. Neither one seems to have panned out. I guess that make you a bit shy about getting pinned down to exact dates, right?
They seriously need to use a different set of dice, when rolling the exact date for the end.

;)
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#114 Nov 23, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
<quoted text>
You communicate, but you say nothing that is worthwhile, especially when using the Bible as your authority. You do not know God's word or Almighty God Jehovah, you are just another windbag.
Projection. I have been studying the word of God for thirty years and it says of Christianity, "...their molten images are wind and confusion". Isaiah 41:29.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#115 Nov 23, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Projection. I have been studying the word of God for thirty years and it says of Christianity, "...their molten images are wind and confusion". Isaiah 41:29.
You've been "studying" for 30 years?

And you **still** don't get it,*yet*?

LMAO!

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#116 Nov 23, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Projection. I have been studying the word of God for thirty years and it says of Christianity, "...their molten images are wind and confusion". Isaiah 41:29.
People have been studying scriptures throughout history and many claimed to be prophets and biblical visionaries. It's regurgitation of the same ole' same ole' and future generations will be regurgitating the same thing in future millenniums.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#117 Nov 23, 2013
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>People have been studying scriptures throughout history and many claimed to be prophets and biblical visionaries. It's regurgitation of the same ole' same ole' and future generations will be regurgitating the same thing in future millenniums.
The only thing is, I'm preaching a different God, the living God of Israel who is basically the God of the Jews. I'm not talking about the god of Christianity who is Satan. I've seen scripture fulfilled throughout my entire life. Jesus fulfilled nothing. According to recent events in the middle east, it's going to be soon, I'd say by the end of 2014.

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#118 Nov 23, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The only thing is, I'm preaching a different God, the living God of Israel who is basically the God of the Jews. I'm not talking about the god of Christianity who is Satan. I've seen scripture fulfilled throughout my entire life. Jesus fulfilled nothing. According to recent events in the middle east, it's going to be soon, I'd say by the end of 2014.
Doesn't make any difference if there's a Jesus or not. You're not saying anything different than people thousands of years ago with the same views you have. Countless people in history have claimed, "I've seen scripture fulfilled" and people in the future will keep making the same claims. There have been wars in the Middle East since humans inhabited there and there's going to be more wars thousands of years into the future because people there can't settle in their own skin let alone make peace.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#119 Nov 24, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
A brilliant quote from a brilliant man.
Kudos!
That is a great quote from one of my favorite authors and one that well reflects how I feel. An Atheist is sort of all those things combined ... Agnostic, Humanist and too short on time to quibble the details. Atheists are Agnostics who have come out of their shell.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#120 Nov 24, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a great quote from one of my favorite authors and one that well reflects how I feel. An Atheist is sort of all those things combined ... Agnostic, Humanist and too short on time to quibble the details. Atheists are Agnostics who have come out of their shell.
Something like that, sure.

:)
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#121 Nov 24, 2013
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Doesn't make any difference if there's a Jesus or not. You're not saying anything different than people thousands of years ago with the same views you have. Countless people in history have claimed, "I've seen scripture fulfilled" and people in the future will keep making the same claims. There have been wars in the Middle East since humans inhabited there and there's going to be more wars thousands of years into the future because people there can't settle in their own skin let alone make peace.
WW II, the 6 day war and the Gulf war are all prophesied in the psalms. They correspond to the year they happened as does psalm 69 which is about the "crucifixion" and happened in 1969. So the entire world has seen scripture fulfilled although they may not know it. I'm talking about multitudes of messianic prophecy. As far as I can tell, everything that is supposed to happen, up until this time, has happened. The next thing is VWD Day, the first day of the Lord.

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#122 Nov 24, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>WW II, the 6 day war and the Gulf war are all prophesied in the psalms. They correspond to the year they happened as does psalm 69 which is about the "crucifixion" and happened in 1969. So the entire world has seen scripture fulfilled although they may not know it. I'm talking about multitudes of messianic prophecy. As far as I can tell, everything that is supposed to happen, up until this time, has happened. The next thing is VWD Day, the first day of the Lord.
Same dates can apply to Nero burning Rome, Crusades, Atilla the Hun, Charlamagne, etc.......... You can make any of the wars, invasions and tragedies fit any of the prophesies. Nothing new!

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#123 Nov 24, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The only thing is, I'm preaching a different God, the living God of Israel who is basically the God of the Jews. I'm not talking about the god of Christianity who is Satan. I've seen scripture fulfilled throughout my entire life. Jesus fulfilled nothing. According to recent events in the middle east, it's going to be soon, I'd say by the end of 2014.
Please, if you're so sure the end of "biblical prophecy" is drawing nigh, and your life endeavors are soon to be done...



Sign all of your earthly possessions over to me upon the return of the Jesus!
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#124 Nov 24, 2013
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Same dates can apply to Nero burning Rome, Crusades, Atilla the Hun, Charlamagne, etc.......... You can make any of the wars, invasions and tragedies fit any of the prophesies. Nothing new!
That may be true, and some prophecies have a dual fulfillment. But some prophecies are so detailed, they are unmistakable. Like the "crucifixion" (which wasn't a crucifixion at all) and the "betrayal" for 30 pieces of silver. Both of those have already happened. The "crucifixion" on 10/22/69 and the "betrayal" almost 30 years ago. Most of the major events in the Messiahs life are in the bible. Psalm 139:16 "...and in thy book all my members were written..."

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