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“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#21 Jan 19, 2014
swerty wrote:
who made your god, did he pop into existence, religion has never invented nothing for humanity, infact is has held us back nearly 2000 years, your arab jewsus was a bum, not once did he do any work, walking around the desert in flip flops, what a bum<quoted text>
God is eternal, because his GOD. The universe doesn't have powers, it part of nature, it can't create itself.

Christianity had saved more than 2billion people. Christianity is this planet.

CHRISTIANITY HAS DONE FAR MORE GOOD THAN SCIENCE.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#22 Jan 19, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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God is eternal, because his GOD. The universe doesn't have powers, it part of nature, it can't create itself.
Christianity had saved more than 2billion people. Christianity is this planet.
CHRISTIANITY HAS DONE FAR MORE GOOD THAN SCIENCE.
pffffh hahahaha great joke haha
Campbell

Kingston, TN

#23 Jan 19, 2014
Muslim wrote:
Most Atheist arguments challenge the compatibility of an all-loving God with the perceived injustices of life. The religious identify such challenges as reflecting an arrogance of intellect -- being the assumption that we as mankind, an element of creation ourselves, know better than God how His creation should be ordered -- coupled with the failure to appreciate a larger design.
The fact that many of mankind fail to make sense of certain aspects of this life should not dissuade from belief in God. The duty of man is not to question or deny the attributes or presence of God, and not to incline to arrogance through professing to be able to do a better job, but rather to accept human station in this life and do the best that can be done with what we’ve been given. By analogy, the fact that a person does not like the way the boss does things at work, and fails to understand the decisions he makes, does not negate his existence. Rather, each person’s duty is to fulfill a job description in order to be paid and promoted. Similarly, failure to grasp or approve of the way God orders creation does not negate His existence. Rather, humankind should recognize with humility that, unlike the workplace boss, who may be wrong, God by definition is of absolute perfection, always right and never wrong. Humankind should bow down to Him in willing submission and in recognition that failure to understand His design on our part does not reflect error on His part. Rather, He is The Lord and Master of Creation and we are not, He knows all and we do not, He orders all affairs according to His perfect attributes, and we simply remain His subjects, along for the ride of our lives.
The confused and sensitive souls who encounter difficulty reconciling God’s existence with a harsh and often painful life deserve sympathy and explanation. If a person accepts the fact that God knows what He is doing and we don’t, he or she should rest comfortable with the understanding that deep down things may not be what they at first seem. Perhaps the wretched amongst humankind deserve their lot in life for reasons unforeseen, and perhaps they suffer only a short worldly existence to receive an eternal reward in the next life. Lest a person forget, God granted the favorites of His creation (i.e. the prophets) the greatest worldly gift of certainty, guidance and revelation; however, they suffered greatly in worldly terms. In fact, the trials and tribulations of most people pale in comparison to those of the prophets. So although many people do suffer terribly, the message of hope is that the archetypes of God’s favorites, namely the prophets, were deprived of the pleasures of this world in exchange for the rewards of the hereafter. A person might well expect a comparable reward for those who endure the trials and hardships of this life, while remaining steadfast upon true belief.
Similarly, a person cannot be faulted for expecting the disbelieving tyrants and oppressors to have all the enjoyments of this world, but none of the hereafter. Some of the known inmates of Hell spring to mind. Pharaoh, for example, lived a life of posh magnificence to the point that he proclaimed himself to be the supreme god. Most likely opinions changed when he broke wind. In any case, a person can reasonably expect him to be somewhat dissatisfied with his toasty abode of the moment, and the memories of his plush carpets, fine foods and scented handmaidens to have lost their charm of consolation given the heat of the moment.
Most Christian arguments challenge Science, Evolution, Education, the existence of a 4.3 billion year old earth, etc. Those people have their heads so far up their brainwashed asses that they'll never see daylight or draw another breath of fresh air if they live to a hundred.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#24 Jan 19, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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God is eternal, because his GOD. The universe doesn't have powers, it part of nature, it can't create itself.
Christianity had saved more than 2billion people. Christianity is this planet.
CHRISTIANITY HAS DONE FAR MORE GOOD THAN SCIENCE.
Putting it in all caps doesn't make it true, it just means you are wrong at the top of your lungs.

Positing the existence of an eternal being is a different proposition from proving an eternal being exists. Much easier to simply posit. You can do that from the comfort of your living room, with one frontal lobe tied behind your back type easy. Proving such a being exists? Not so much.

Saying Christianity has 'saved' any number of people assumes that it's teachings are true and that a malevolent/benevolent deity actually exists and will reward/punish based on whether one believes or not. All of which has not a scintilla of evidence to support it. On the other hand, the numbers of people who perished due to Christianity is indubitably large. Adding all the victims of the inquisition, the conquistadores, the crusades the wars against the believers of other religions and the hundreds of bloody intramural wars over which particular flavor of christianity is the right one, and the body count starts piling up. Start adding in the millions of unnecessary AIDS cases in Africa caused by missionaries preaching that condom use is 'sinful', the millions who die in poverty because other missionaries taught them that family planning was 'sinful', thus barring the only route out of poverty, and the body count rises to the point where Christianity rivals colon cancer as a cause of mortality.

"The planet is christianity"? His in undoubtedly a surprise to the Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and many other religions which share this planet with you. None is a majority. Except for the Muslims, none is arrogant enough to think they are.
Campbell

Kingston, TN

#25 Jan 19, 2014
Amused wrote:
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Putting it in all caps doesn't make it true, it just means you are wrong at the top of your lungs.
Positing the existence of an eternal being is a different proposition from proving an eternal being exists. Much easier to simply posit. You can do that from the comfort of your living room, with one frontal lobe tied behind your back type easy. Proving such a being exists? Not so much.
Saying Christianity has 'saved' any number of people assumes that it's teachings are true and that a malevolent/benevolent deity actually exists and will reward/punish based on whether one believes or not. All of which has not a scintilla of evidence to support it. On the other hand, the numbers of people who perished due to Christianity is indubitably large. Adding all the victims of the inquisition, the conquistadores, the crusades the wars against the believers of other religions and the hundreds of bloody intramural wars over which particular flavor of christianity is the right one, and the body count starts piling up. Start adding in the millions of unnecessary AIDS cases in Africa caused by missionaries preaching that condom use is 'sinful', the millions who die in poverty because other missionaries taught them that family planning was 'sinful', thus barring the only route out of poverty, and the body count rises to the point where Christianity rivals colon cancer as a cause of mortality.
"The planet is christianity"? His in undoubtedly a surprise to the Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and many other religions which share this planet with you. None is a majority. Except for the Muslims, none is arrogant enough to think they are.
Yeah....well the way I read this one verse condemns all who don't believe to hell fire:

Revelation 21

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Jim

London, UK

#26 Jan 19, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
God is eternal, because his GOD. The universe doesn't have powers, it part of nature, it can't create itself.
Christianity had saved more than 2billion people. Christianity is this planet.
CHRISTIANITY HAS DONE FAR MORE GOOD THAN SCIENCE.
If its so good, why do you need capital letters & to upvote yourself?

oh, yeah because you liars have no evidence of god.
Jim

London, UK

#27 Jan 19, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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I suggest you study religion or just sit there behind your computer saying we did this and we did that like little baby.
Suggest you find some evidence of god and stop making sh*t up for Atheists to disbelieve in.
Jim

London, UK

#28 Jan 19, 2014
Campbell wrote:
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Most Christian arguments challenge Science, Evolution, Education, the existence of a 4.3 billion year old earth, etc. Those people have their heads so far up their brainwashed asses that they'll never see daylight or draw another breath of fresh air if they live to a hundred.
The ignorant always post the longest essays.

Its like they know already they have no evidence and need to / cover up for it.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#29 Jan 19, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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I may be christian, but i respect the Muslims for what they believe in. First, 9/11 was caused by the evil Muslims. There's 2 different kinds of Islam. LOOK IT UP. Stoning was caused by evil side of Islam and other people who hated on other people's beliefs in the biblical times.
I won't continue, try understanding us.
I suggest you study religion or just sit there behind your computer saying we did this and we did that like little baby.
Biblically speaking, you too are ordered to stone the sinners from among your own countrymen. Or is it the new sanitized bible* lite which you are playing at following?

*A new and whitewashed Arabic god's buybull for a new people, who might actually be imprisoned if they chose to follow the older version of thier buybull.
Campbell

Kingston, TN

#30 Jan 19, 2014
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
The ignorant always post the longest essays.
Its like they know already they have no evidence and need to / cover up for it.
Revelation 21:
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#31 Jan 19, 2014
religion flys you into buildings. science sends us to the moon
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
God is eternal, because his GOD. The universe doesn't have powers, it part of nature, it can't create itself.
Christianity had saved more than 2billion people. Christianity is this planet.
CHRISTIANITY HAS DONE FAR MORE GOOD THAN SCIENCE.
Campbell

Kingston, TN

#32 Jan 20, 2014
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Putting it in all caps doesn't make it true, it just means you are wrong at the top of your lungs.
Positing the existence of an eternal being is a different proposition from proving an eternal being exists. Much easier to simply posit. You can do that from the comfort of your living room, with one frontal lobe tied behind your back type easy. Proving such a being exists? Not so much.
Saying Christianity has 'saved' any number of people assumes that it's teachings are true and that a malevolent/benevolent deity actually exists and will reward/punish based on whether one believes or not. All of which has not a scintilla of evidence to support it. On the other hand, the numbers of people who perished due to Christianity is indubitably large. Adding all the victims of the inquisition, the conquistadores, the crusades the wars against the believers of other religions and the hundreds of bloody intramural wars over which particular flavor of christianity is the right one, and the body count starts piling up. Start adding in the millions of unnecessary AIDS cases in Africa caused by missionaries preaching that condom use is 'sinful', the millions who die in poverty because other missionaries taught them that family planning was 'sinful', thus barring the only route out of poverty, and the body count rises to the point where Christianity rivals colon cancer as a cause of mortality.
"The planet is christianity"? His in undoubtedly a surprise to the Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and many other religions which share this planet with you. None is a majority. Except for the Muslims, none is arrogant enough to think they are.
Yeah....well the way I read this one Christian verse condemns all who don't believe to hell fire:

Revelation 21

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#33 Jan 20, 2014
Campbell wrote:
<quoted text>
Revelation 21:
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Leviticus 26: 27-29

27. And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;

28. Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.

29. And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

You'd better re-think all that not getting out and stoning your communities sinners, you just might end up making the god angry.
Campbell

Kingston, TN

#34 Jan 20, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Leviticus 26: 27-29
27. And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;
28. Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29. And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.
You'd better re-think all that not getting out and stoning your communities sinners, you just might end up making the god angry.
Screw God....I don't owe the invisible guy a thing. I've got better sense than to believe that sheepherder's tale from 2000 years ago. Here's what my hero Thomas Jefferson thought of that nonsense:

" The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding "

~Excerpt from a letter to then president John Adams, April 11, 1823~

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