Non-Theistic Christianity

Aug 9, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Chronicles

There was a time when one could be assured that it was only the fool who denied the existence of God.

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You don't even need to read this.
Non-Theistic Christianity can't be, to remove God from Christianity is to go to far from the original works to the point that you have created a new ideology.

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Benjamin Frankly wrote:
You don't even need to read this.
Non-Theistic Christianity can't be, to remove God from Christianity is to go to far from the original works to the point that you have created a new ideology.
Trust humanity to never admit their own stupidity to themselves and instead cover up for it by creating apologetics / liars.
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Jehovah God is not in Christianity, Christianity has made Jesus their god by teaching Jesus is God as well as the father and spirit. That Trinity doctrine is not in the Bible.
John 4:24

Therefore all Christianity is a lie and not acceptable to Jehovah God as truth, all Christian religions are already judged and condemned to be destroyed when the Great Tribulation starts, very soon according to fulfilled prophecy.
Revelation 22:15

Other false doctrines taught in Christian religions are the Rapture, Immortal soul, Heaven reward, Hellfire punishment, Apostolic succession, Purgatory and Mary the mother of God.
Shame on Christendom for teaching lies, they will all be destroyed by Jesus our reigning King in heaven.
2Thessalonians 1:9

Now is the time to start your personal Bible study with Jehovah's witnesses so you can learn the symbolic language of Scripture and prophetic signs to survive the end of this world ruled by Satan the Devil.
John 17:3

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Benjamin Frankly wrote:
You don't even need to read this.
Non-Theistic Christianity can't be, to remove God from Christianity is to go to far from the original works to the point that you have created a new ideology.
What would be the point?

"christianity" -- all flavors, is defined as worship of the man-god "jesus".

If you eliminate the whole "god" from the mix?

Jesus was, at best, a mediocre wandering hippy, who basically repeated the more social ideas of Buddhism.

Not that that's a **bad** thing-- we could use a few less greedy capitalists in the world, and a few more back-to-the-earth, not-owning-anything hippy types.

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True Christian witness wrote:
Jehovah God is not in Christianity, Christianity has made Jesus their god by teaching Jesus is God as well as the father and spirit. That Trinity doctrine is not in the Bible.
True. The bible is a mix of conflicting ideas.
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John 4:24
Therefore all Christianity is a lie ...
Also true-- no need to expound further.

.... but you will anyway ....
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... and not acceptable to Jehovah God as truth, all Christian religions are already judged and condemned to be destroyed when the Great Tribulation starts, very soon according to fulfilled prophecy.
Revelation 22:15
WTF? Well, if that's true?**YOUR** version will be destroyed as well-- NOBODY will escape.

Because **NOBODY** can live up to the contradictory and conflicting rules in the ugly bible...

... nobody.

That's why it's not even a little divine.
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Other false doctrines taught in Christian religions are the Rapture, Immortal soul, Heaven reward, Hellfire punishment, Apostolic succession, Purgatory and Mary the mother of God.
You forgot to list **yours** in there too--

-- they are all, equally false.
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Shame on Christendom for teaching lies,...
Agreed-- shame on anyone for teaching lies.
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... they will all be destroyed by Jesus our reigning King in heaven.
2Thessalonians 1:9
See above: shame on YOU for telling a lie!
True Christian witness wrote:
Now is the time to start your personal Bible study with Jehovah's witnesses so you can learn the symbolic language of Scripture and prophetic signs to survive the end of this world ruled by Satan the Devil.
John 17:3
See above: shame on YOU for telling ANOTHER lie!
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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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True. The bible is a mix of conflicting ideas.
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Also true-- no need to expound further.
.... but you will anyway ....
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WTF? Well, if that's true?**YOUR** version will be destroyed as well-- NOBODY will escape.
Because **NOBODY** can live up to the contradictory and conflicting rules in the ugly bible...
... nobody.
That's why it's not even a little divine.
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You forgot to list **yours** in there too--
-- they are all, equally false.
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Agreed-- shame on anyone for teaching lies.
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See above: shame on YOU for telling a lie!
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See above: shame on YOU for telling ANOTHER lie!
I am not lying, I speak the truth, but because you cannot hear or choose to believe, that is your problem. You will stay on the outside, unless you accept the one way Jesus is directing his followers today, his teachings by Jehovah's witnesses. Only those who are Jehovah's witnesses and subjects of God's heavenly government will survive the end of this world, soon to be here.
Revelation 22: 15,16

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I am not lying, I speak the truth,...
Nope-- you are lying, even if you are too brainwashed to realize it.

And nope-- you are unacquainted with reality itself--let alone truth.
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... but because you cannot hear or choose to believe,...
It is NOT a choice-- I simply cannot MAKE MYSELF ACCEPT A LIE.

Seriously-- I do not have any choice-- your LIES are unsupported by fact.
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... that is your problem.
Nope. I live a **reality*** based life.

You? You live a lie.
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You will stay on the outside, unless you accept the one way Jesus is directing his followers today, his teachings by Jehovah's witnesses.
Your near-total arrogance and judgmental attitude is noted.

Did not your Jewsus warn you about... JUDGING OTHERS?

Yes... yes he did-- and YOU ARE GUILTY.

It's off to HELL FOR YOU!

LOL!
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Only those who are Jehovah's witnesses and subjects of God's heavenly government will survive the end of this world, soon to be here.
Revelation 22: 15,16
BS ignored.

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What would be the point?
"christianity" -- all flavors, is defined as worship of the man-god "jesus".
If you eliminate the whole "god" from the mix?
Jesus was, at best, a mediocre wandering hippy, who basically repeated the more social ideas of Buddhism.
Not that that's a **bad** thing-- we could use a few less greedy capitalists in the world, and a few more back-to-the-earth, not-owning-anything hippy types.
"What would be the point?" that Non-Theistic Christianity cannot be a form of Christianity, God helps form the core of Christianity to remove God is to change the core so much that it's a new idea, and not a reworking of the old.

However I didn't say that to remove God was bad nor good, all I am saying is that if you do remove God you need to find a new name, becouse you cannot call yourself a Christian
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"Remember kids, all the above is a work of fiction"
Revelation 22:22
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Revelation 22: 15,16
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Who else on this earth is declaring God's word of truth for your benefit, for your survival of eternal destruction? Zephaniah 2: 2,3

Jesus commanded his followers to go and preach Almighty God Jehovah's word to people to benefit them, and in that way you also safeguard your own life.

(Matthew 28:19, 20) 19&#8239;Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20&#8239;teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

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Who else on this earth is declaring God's word of truth for your benefit, for your survival of eternal destruction? Zephaniah 2: 2,3
Jesus commanded his followers to go and preach Almighty God Jehovah's word to people to benefit them, and in that way you also safeguard your own life.
(Matthew 28:19, 20) 19&#8239;Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20&#8239;teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.
Do you just type and hope? You've completely given up selling your cult the hard way. Comes with experience I guess.

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The hard way being proving this crap instead of lying about it.

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"What would be the point?" that Non-Theistic Christianity cannot be a form of Christianity, God helps form the core of Christianity to remove God is to change the core so much that it's a new idea, and not a reworking of the old.
However I didn't say that to remove God was bad nor good, all I am saying is that if you do remove God you need to find a new name, becouse you cannot call yourself a Christian
On the third paw?

Since it's been demonstrated that your basic christianity is entirely based on myth?

It hardly matters if some splinter group co-opts the name and chucks the whole supernatural crap, does it?

I mean-- one is based on a lie, and the other is based on a lessor kind of lie (no belief supernatural, yet following the rest of the cult's ideas).

I'd take the latter kind 1000 to 1 over the former.

I don't see a non-theist christian trying to get the 10 Commandments force-placed into a courthouse, for example.

Nor do I see one trying to get anti-gay laws passed either.

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Who else on this earth is declaring God's word of truth for your benefit, for your survival of eternal destruction? Zephaniah 2: 2,3
Jesus commanded his followers to go and preach Almighty God Jehovah's word to people to benefit them, and in that way you also safeguard your own life.
(Matthew 28:19, 20) 19&#8239;Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20&#8239;teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.
Lies followed by more lies based on still more lies.

In fact?

Lies is apparently all that you do, here.

... hmmmm ....

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On the third paw?
Since it's been demonstrated that your basic christianity is entirely based on myth?
It hardly matters if some splinter group co-opts the name and chucks the whole supernatural crap, does it?
I mean-- one is based on a lie, and the other is based on a lessor kind of lie (no belief supernatural, yet following the rest of the cult's ideas).
I'd take the latter kind 1000 to 1 over the former.
I don't see a non-theist christian trying to get the 10 Commandments force-placed into a courthouse, for example.
Nor do I see one trying to get anti-gay laws passed either.
Yes you don't see these "non-theist" Christians doing all the dumb S*** "theist" Christians do, but we still need to call B.S.
The reason why is what you said at the start "Since it's been demonstrated that your basic Christianity is entirely based on myth?". Most Christians state that God's word is unchanging but yet they also say that all the things in the bible that have been shown to be evil null and void. In other words the main problem Christianity has is the fact that as a Christian you should be a raving fanatic, but yet as a human being you should not. When you show this to believers to true you in affect make have them to chose A be a nut job B not follow the laws of the bible or C be an atheist. Thus calling out the people who try to change Christianity is part of the larger battle ageist Christianity, by showing how you can't logicically get away from the evils of fundamentalism and still call your self a Christian.

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Lies followed by more lies based on still more lies.
In fact?
Lies is apparently all that you do, here.
... hmmmm ....
its what they all do. By now, they know there's no god - its about keeping the lie alive for their failing cult.

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Yes you don't see these "non-theist" Christians doing all the dumb S*** "theist" Christians do, but we still need to call B.S.
Well, yes... but.

If non-theist xainity takes root, and grows, and then overtakes the theist version?

Eventually, they will let it all drop. What's left would be either so ridiculously powerless and small (completely harmless) or nearly so (almost completely harmless).

Either way-- no longer a concern.

For example-- does anyone **really** worry about a horde of Druids burning down cities because of tree-destruction?
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The reason why is what you said at the start "Since it's been demonstrated that your basic Christianity is entirely based on myth?". Most Christians state that God's word is unchanging but yet they also say that all the things in the bible that have been shown to be evil null and void. In other words the main problem Christianity has is the fact that as a Christian you should be a raving fanatic, but yet as a human being you should not. When you show this to believers to true you in affect make have them to chose A be a nut job B not follow the laws of the bible or C be an atheist. Thus calling out the people who try to change Christianity is part of the larger battle ageist Christianity, by showing how you can't logicically get away from the evils of fundamentalism and still call your self a Christian.
Yes-- fundie xianity is pure, distilled evil.

Fundie **anything** is pretty much, for that matter.

What we need to concentrate on, is stamping out fundy-non-thought.

Fundy-ism turns people into meat-robots.

And with enough meat-robots (running the same program), they can literally destroy the world-- not unlike a zombie apocalypse.

The only cure I can see, here-- is a mental reboot with quality education.

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Well, yes... but.
If non-theist xainity takes root, and grows, and then overtakes the theist version?
Eventually, they will let it all drop. What's left would be either so ridiculously powerless and small (completely harmless) or nearly so (almost completely harmless).
Either way-- no longer a concern.
For example-- does anyone **really** worry about a horde of Druids burning down cities because of tree-destruction?
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Yes-- fundie xianity is pure, distilled evil.
Fundie **anything** is pretty much, for that matter.
What we need to concentrate on, is stamping out fundy-non-thought.
Fundy-ism turns people into meat-robots.
And with enough meat-robots (running the same program), they can literally destroy the world-- not unlike a zombie apocalypse.
The only cure I can see, here-- is a mental reboot with quality education.
Your missing the point I made.
We must call out people who stray from Christian orthodoxy, as there is no logical way to be a Christian and not be a fundamentalist when you take into account the idea that God's word doesn't change, so Christians should be nut jobs but they are not because the modern Christian has already taken a big steep to becoming an atheist, they try to clean up the bible. All we need do is force them to see how the idea that God's word doesn't change contradicts these attempts and a new atheist is in the making.
That is the point I am trying to make.

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Your missing the point I made.
We must call out people who stray from Christian orthodoxy, as there is no logical way to be a Christian and not be a fundamentalist when you take into account the idea that God's word doesn't change, so Christians should be nut jobs but they are not because the modern Christian has already taken a big steep to becoming an atheist, they try to clean up the bible. All we need do is force them to see how the idea that God's word doesn't change contradicts these attempts and a new atheist is in the making.
That is the point I am trying to make.
Aaah.. yes, a good point. A very good point.

I like it-- but.

There are folk who appear to be unwilling or unable to make the complete leap from theist to non-theist at one go.

There are various reasons-- mostly social ones (i.e. they need to belong, they need a community, they wish to remain with their families, etc).

The modest step towards "liberal" theology is one way-- very-very liberal theists do not try to get ugly religious laws passed, and are quite supportive of secular equality efforts.(for example) As such, I have absolutely zero problem with these sorts-- they can go their way, I'll go mine, but together we both work for the betterment of everyone.

Another way would be to go to non-theist "christianity". A very watered down, post-Jeffersonian version. Again, without the magic "juice" of god? They'd have no motivation to pass ugly bigoted religious laws. Once again, I'd have zero problem with such groups.

Whereas **ideally** everyone lives in a **reality** based life-- practically speaking, at this time in history? Not gonna happen in **my** lifetime.
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Makes no difference, Atheist or Christian, Buddhist or Muslim, devout Hindu or any religion, people are accountable to the Creator, Jehovah God. That means anyone alive has to pay for his sins with his death, the penalty for sinning is death.
Romans 6:23

It is only the true Christian witness of Jehovah God that has the hope of surviving the end of this world and never having to die at Armageddon. That is a good reason to study your Bible with Jehovah's witnesses, to have the prospect of eternal life in God's new world of righteousness, and by getting your sins forgiven by the blood of Jesus, the Lamb of God.
Revelation 7:14
Matthew 25:34

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