The Arrogance of Atheism

Jun 28, 2013 Full story: Daily Kos 14

It was my sophomore year in college, in the late 1960s, when I quit believing in God.

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“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

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#1 Jun 28, 2013
There can be no doubt that some atheists are arrogant to the point of being obnoxious. They give full vent to their contumely, never missing an opportunity to sneer at the silly superstitions of mankind. But there is an inescapable arrogance in being an atheist that cannot be avoided no matter how polite or considerate one tries to be. In asserting one’s atheism, one explicitly denies the existence of God, but implicitly asserts one’s superiority, in effect saying,“You need religion as a crutch, while I have the strength to face life standing on my own two feet.” The atheist gives offense whether he wants to or not, and it is small wonder that it is a common religious fantasy that he will crawl in the end."
" One of the pleasures of atheism is the arrogance that naturally comes with it. Let’s not spoil it with a lot of whining about how we just aren’t being treated right."
I must agree with him.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#2 Jun 28, 2013
You should cite your sources :

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/28/1219... #

“you must not give faith”

Since: Jul 12

Nottingham, UK

#3 Jun 29, 2013
I must say the article has a point. In the face of the absurd arrogance is in deed a pleasure, and atheism is the biggest trip of all.

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

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#4 Jun 29, 2013
madscot wrote:
You should cite your sources :
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/28/1219... #
I should have put quotation marks. There was no need to cite my sources since I was assuming that anyone in this thread would read the link and read my statement saying that I agreed with him.
Image

Jackson, MO

#5 Jun 29, 2013
I know arrogance isn't attractive, but when you're right, you're RIGHT. Case closed.
If we didn't have to argue our position against such insane, blatant IGNORANCE, I'm fairly certain our arrogance would subside into quiet contentedness.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#6 Jun 29, 2013
Image wrote:
I know arrogance isn't attractive, but when you're right, you're RIGHT. Case closed.
If we didn't have to argue our position against such insane, blatant IGNORANCE, I'm fairly certain our arrogance would subside into quiet contentedness.
Been right is seen as arrogance by the ignorant.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#7 Jun 29, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
There can be no doubt that some atheists are arrogant to the point of being obnoxious. They give full vent to their contumely, never missing an opportunity to sneer at the silly superstitions of mankind. But there is an inescapable arrogance in being an atheist that cannot be avoided no matter how polite or considerate one tries to be. In asserting one’s atheism, one explicitly denies the existence of God, but implicitly asserts one’s superiority, in effect saying,“You need religion as a crutch, while I have the strength to face life standing on my own two feet.” The atheist gives offense whether he wants to or not, and it is small wonder that it is a common religious fantasy that he will crawl in the end."
" One of the pleasures of atheism is the arrogance that naturally comes with it. Let’s not spoil it with a lot of whining about how we just aren’t being treated right."
I must agree with him.
You are not paying attention to the two different types of atheists. There are some who claim to know there is no God, and they are just as arrogant as those who claim to know there is a God, and to know what that God is like. Skeptic is one of those and I feud with him constantly.

An agnostic atheist like myself simply does not believe in any of the God he or she has been told about, or has read about, but does not claim to know or have proof.

My sort - being raised agnostic atheist - has less hostility since we did not have to fight to break free from a rightwing authoritarian fundie set of parents, supported by a rightwing church. Especially if we grew up in a tolerant town, with respect for thinking persons.

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#8 Jun 29, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> You are not paying attention to the two different types of atheists. There are some who claim to know there is no God, and they are just as arrogant as those who claim to know there is a God, and to know what that God is like. Skeptic is one of those and I feud with him constantly.
An agnostic atheist like myself simply does not believe in any of the God he or she has been told about, or has read about, but does not claim to know or have proof.
My sort - being raised agnostic atheist - has less hostility since we did not have to fight to break free from a rightwing authoritarian fundie set of parents, supported by a rightwing church. Especially if we grew up in a tolerant town, with respect for thinking persons.
I don't differentiate between atheists(in regards to belief or lack of belief). I don't even differentiate between atheists and agnostics. The reason why I don't do so is because I don't see the need to. Either way, whether one is agnostic or not, one is not worshiping a god and one cannot say that one believes in a god. As for your claim about Skeptic, his position is not wrong. There is as much proof of a god as there is for unicorns or flying Spaghetti monsters. I used to consider myself a agnostic until my friend pointed that there was no more proof of a god than there is for any other fairy tale.
Image

Jackson, MO

#9 Jun 30, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't differentiate between atheists(in regards to belief or lack of belief). I don't even differentiate between atheists and agnostics. The reason why I don't do so is because I don't see the need to. Either way, whether one is agnostic or not, one is not worshiping a god and one cannot say that one believes in a god. As for your claim about Skeptic, his position is not wrong. There is as much proof of a god as there is for unicorns or flying Spaghetti monsters. I used to consider myself a agnostic until my friend pointed that there was no more proof of a god than there is for any other fairy tale.
I don't differentiate, either. I think spending time and energy dividing us into different subcategories is really an effort to divide us as a group, so that our efforts aren't unified and strong.

Look, now we have atheists arguing with atheists about what atheism means!! It's horrible, and it gives religion an opening to attack us. We should all accept that some want to argue atheism more, and others less.

I imagined that after we beat religion, atheism would sort of die out because there's no reason to declare it any longer (right, like no one calls themselves afairyists anymore...) Now, I am afraid that after we defeat religion, atheists will not be content with that, and they will turn on each other and divide into groups and keep the fight going. I hope not, but I see more and more negativity by atheists towards other atheists, and it really saddens me and weakens us all.

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#10 Jun 30, 2013
Image wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't differentiate, either. I think spending time and energy dividing us into different subcategories is really an effort to divide us as a group, so that our efforts aren't unified and strong.
Look, now we have atheists arguing with atheists about what atheism means!! It's horrible, and it gives religion an opening to attack us. We should all accept that some want to argue atheism more, and others less.
I imagined that after we beat religion, atheism would sort of die out because there's no reason to declare it any longer (right, like no one calls themselves afairyists anymore...) Now, I am afraid that after we defeat religion, atheists will not be content with that, and they will turn on each other and divide into groups and keep the fight going. I hope not, but I see more and more negativity by atheists towards other atheists, and it really saddens me and weakens us all.
You are right on point. Atheists should not let trivial words divide us. What difference does it make is we are agnostics, agnostic atheists or just atheists?

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#11 Jul 3, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right on point. Atheists should not let trivial words divide us. What difference does it make is we are agnostics, agnostic atheists or just atheists?
"havent forgotten" and ones like her are the reason I no longer call myself an atheist. They act like religies..... believe like me or die.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/winchester-ky...

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Since: Jun 10

the alternate future

#12 Jul 3, 2013
I certainly don't consider myself arrogant, in any sense of the word. I am always polite to anyone I debate with most of the time, I try not to stoop to petty insults, and I read every point of view. I have read the Koran, the Bible, and the Book of Mormon. I mostly keep silent about my non-belief in public unless I am asked what I believe or if religious people are being hypocritical about atheists, then I speak up.

The last thing I can stand is anyone being bullied. I have no tolerance for atheists who bully Christians, especially the ones who are polite and not mean about their beliefs at all. The ones who are not civil sort of get the treatment that they incite online. I have no tolerance for religious people who bully other religious people and have stood up for other believers from time to time.

Even if some of us atheists might be rude and arrogant, I simply try not to be. I loathe arrogant people and narcissistic people. Don't generalize everyone as being arrogant.
Amused

Monomoy Island, MA

#13 Jul 3, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
There can be no doubt that some atheists are arrogant to the point of being obnoxious. They give full vent to their contumely, never missing an opportunity to sneer at the silly superstitions of mankind. But there is an inescapable arrogance in being an atheist that cannot be avoided no matter how polite or considerate one tries to be. In asserting one’s atheism, one explicitly denies the existence of God, but implicitly asserts one’s superiority, in effect saying,“You need religion as a crutch, while I have the strength to face life standing on my own two feet.” The atheist gives offense whether he wants to or not, and it is small wonder that it is a common religious fantasy that he will crawl in the end."
" One of the pleasures of atheism is the arrogance that naturally comes with it. Let’s not spoil it with a lot of whining about how we just aren’t being treated right."
I must agree with him.
On the other hand, what could be more arrogant than believing in a vast, all powerful being that created the entire universe just for you, and further believing that such a being takes a deep personal interest in you and your doings, particularly the things you do when you are naked?

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

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#14 Jul 3, 2013
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
On the other hand, what could be more arrogant than believing in a vast, all powerful being that created the entire universe just for you, and further believing that such a being takes a deep personal interest in you and your doings, particularly the things you do when you are naked?
You are right on point.

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