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Siro

Australia

#21 Mar 28, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Well, besides not being an actual atheist .......
Take it up with the church of satan, they deny God and claim that satan is in their subconscious. In other words 'they are all satan'....but some satans are more narcissistic than the others. They might proclaim themselves equal before the public, but within that group there will always be 'satans' who want to be the 'one and only'.
And yes they are atheist (at least in public view......just like you)

Since: Jun 07

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#22 Mar 28, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Take it up with the church of satan, they deny God and claim that satan is in their subconscious. In other words 'they are all satan'....but some satans are more narcissistic than the others. They might proclaim themselves equal before the public, but within that group there will always be 'satans' who want to be the 'one and only'.
And yes they are atheist (at least in public view......just like you)
Athiests are not satanists. Propoganda fail.
Amused

Bridgewater, MA

#23 Mar 28, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Athiests are not satanists. Propoganda fail.
Educated What used to go on about some obscure band of self-proclaimed atheist/satanists. Perhaps there's just a tad less room in the sock drawer with this latest edition "Siro".

“Tis the Season for Reason!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#24 Mar 28, 2013
Amused wrote:
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Educated What used to go on about some obscure band of self-proclaimed atheist/satanists. Perhaps there's just a tad less room in the sock drawer with this latest edition "Siro".
If he would not act like some Outback Baby Eating Dingo, maybe he would get less animosity.

As an aside, the four numbers that I need to put in the box to post this message just happen to be 6666. Yeah!

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#25 Mar 28, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
What about Bob of QF and Skeptic?
They have been screamingt loud and foul with their vulgarities for a considerable amount of time. Do you have the same thing to say about them?
<quoted text>
Again refer to Bob and Skeptic, and if a theist tries to start a serious thread then you get posters and socks like Thinking,The serpent was right, and others chipping in to derail the thread. KK is a prime example with HIS claims that I hate rabbits and am a racist (no foundation to either claim).
John and Dave post serious stuff and look at all the crap they get, as I said the chief malignant factor is Bob of QF.
What is it you dont like about my posts?
That I give to them what they expect me to tolerate?
You can only raise the stake in malice - You cannot plunge it down.
<quoted text>
You say you took me apart?.....Link and reference then.....
As for what I believe?
Well you lot seem to have dictated that for me because you are 'so educated'
Time after time after time you say that I am a Christian and tell me to adhere to the Bible and that I should take your crap. Even though I have previously stated that I am not a Christian you all say that Im a Christian anyway because I oppose you.
Or in BobQFspeak.....'Genuine Christian (TM)' or 'Genuine Catholic (TM)'
If you want to roll that way then so can I
<quoted text>
To correctly state it, a maltheist is someone who does not deny the existence of God but doesnt believe in him or publically acknowledge his existence.
Essentially a theist gone bad who views God as bad.
Lets look at you lot...you dont actually deny the existence of God but you also dont believe in him.
A comparison example.....
There is a guy called Obama
He is the president
.
You cannot deny that. True?
.
Do I believe Obama is a good president?
No I dont.
So it would be fair to say that I dont believe in him and that I have no faith in him, I cant deny the title of president but I can refuse to acknowledge it while he is there.
I would see him as a bad president because of his actions and his decisions, I would see him as bad and vice versa.
If you were to ask me about President Obama...could I say 'Hes not a president''Hes nothing''I really hate his followers as far as Im concerned he does not exist' or anything similar?
Thats what you do concerning God.
As for what you believe? If it walks like a theist, and walks like a theist, and quackes like a theist..... Anyhow, you have yet to have the balls to say what you believe concerning god. LOL!!
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I dispute your silly definition of a theist. Name your reference. Oh, and I have often stated(maybe not directly to you, but it would be obvious to all but the most ignorant...Oh that's you) that I am an atheist. I deny the existance of any god(s). Does that clear it up for you, oh dense one?.
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As for your absolutely ignorant little rant on "believeing" in Obama.... This is precisly why I point out time and time again that you clearly lack education, or common sense. Don't you know the difference between an atheists lack of belief in the very existance of a god, and your lack of belief in President Obama from the perspective that he is capable of doing a good job? Now, if you are a 10 year old, I could understand. Otherwise, LOL!!!!

Oh, and as far as a link and reference to when I took you apart.... Look at the prior paragraph. LOL!!! Like taking candy from a theist!!
Amused

Lowell, MA

#26 Mar 28, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
<quoted text>
If he would not act like some Outback Baby Eating Dingo, maybe he would get less animosity.
As an aside, the four numbers that I need to put in the box to post this message just happen to be 6666. Yeah!
4 of a kind! does that mean you win the thread?

Seriously, Siro cares WAY too much about Obama to be a convict. There's practically no idiomatic Aussie in his posts. My guess is he has just learned how to use proxy servers to hide his location.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#27 Mar 28, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Take it up with the church of satan, they deny God and claim that satan is in their subconscious. In other words 'they are all satan'....but some satans are more narcissistic than the others. They might proclaim themselves equal before the public, but within that group there will always be 'satans' who want to be the 'one and only'.
And yes they are atheist (at least in public view......just like you)
If they deny the god, then they are not atheist. They may make the claim to be non-believers, and that they are Satanists, says that they are indeed theist. For without your god, there could be no Satan, therefore they are theist. Exactly as are the mal-theists. You played follow the leader in using maltheist as a presumed (by you lot only) dig against we atheist, and instead of just accepting that you made a mistake (admit it and get on to the next pile of crap) you are hanging on to a joke on yourself. The concocted word "maltheist", because of it's components has only the one meaning, it means a bad theist.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#28 Mar 28, 2013
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Educated What used to go on about some obscure band of self-proclaimed atheist/satanists. Perhaps there's just a tad less room in the sock drawer with this latest edition "Siro".
Exactly, in fact there was at least one incident where Siro paraded out still in the EW sock.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#29 Mar 28, 2013
In post #25 I said: "I dispute your silly definition of a theist"

That should be: I dispute your silly definition of a maltheist.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#30 Mar 28, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Take it up with the church of satan, they deny God and claim that satan is in their subconscious. In other words 'they are all satan'....but some satans are more narcissistic than the others. They might proclaim themselves equal before the public, but within that group there will always be 'satans' who want to be the 'one and only'.
And yes they are atheist (at least in public view......just like you)
By the pure term atheist they are not, they may claim to be, but unless they acknowledge that they do not believe in god or satan then they are not atheist.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#31 Mar 28, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
What about Bob of QF and Skeptic?
They have been screamingt loud and foul with their vulgarities for a considerable amount of time. Do you have the same thing to say about them?
I'm not crazy about Bob's approach, but he does post ideas with thinking about enough of the time to make most of his posts worth the time it takes to read them, and his writing style is as interesting as it is unique. When Skeptic isn't driven by his need to defend himself from attack, he posts challenging ideas in a very accessible writing style. You rarely contribute an idea worth thinking about--that's the difference.
Again refer to Bob and Skeptic, and if a theist tries to start a serious thread then you get posters and socks like Thinking,The serpent was right, and others chipping in to derail the thread. KK is a prime example with HIS claims that I hate rabbits and am a racist (no foundation to either claim).
John and Dave post serious stuff and look at all the crap they get, as I said the chief malignant factor is Bob of QF.
Often, the problem is either that the theist in question either has a history that can't be ignored or is a newbie writing posts that we've seen too many times to take another iteration seriously. At any rate, I wasn't wring to John, Dave, BOQF, or Skeptic. I was writing to you.
What is it you dont like about my posts?
That I give to them what they expect me to tolerate?
You can only raise the stake in malice - You cannot plunge it down.
Your posts are pure insult with no redeeming intellectual value. Others here at least present counter-arguments at least some of the time. You don't.

Actually, it is quite easy to reduce or even eliminate malice. All you have to do is refuse to respond in kind--that's what I do. There have been a few posts written over the years that have been all insult/no ideas. I simply ignore them. On the rare occasions that I get a post that is a mixture, I respond only to the ideas. It works. The people on this forum know me well enough that I don't need to defend myself from false accusations, so I just ignore them.

I propose another experiment, one for you alone. Post only when you have an actual idea to present. Don't post simply to insult anyone or even to respond to an insult. Don't include insults along with your ideas. You could even go so far as to study a little logic and work to avoid using any of the classic fallacy, but I can understand if that effort is more than you want to do. Try this for a week or two and see what happens. Do the responses to your posts change? Does your view of the others here moderate at all? Does your proneness to anger abate at all? It will be hard, I know. But you won't know what will result until you try.
Thinking

Mirfield, UK

#32 Mar 28, 2013
Hey cuntard, unlike you, you lying religitard, I only post as "Thinking".
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
What about Bob of QF and Skeptic?
They have been screamingt loud and foul with their vulgarities for a considerable amount of time. Do you have the same thing to say about them?
<quoted text>
Again refer to Bob and Skeptic, and if a theist tries to start a serious thread then you get posters and socks like Thinking,The serpent was right, and others chipping in to derail the thread. KK is a prime example with HIS claims that I hate rabbits and am a racist (no foundation to either claim).
John and Dave post serious stuff and look at all the crap they get, as I said the chief malignant factor is Bob of QF.
What is it you dont like about my posts?
That I give to them what they expect me to tolerate?
You can only raise the stake in malice - You cannot plunge it down.
<quoted text>
You say you took me apart?.....Link and reference then.....
As for what I believe?
Well you lot seem to have dictated that for me because you are 'so educated'
Time after time after time you say that I am a Christian and tell me to adhere to the Bible and that I should take your crap. Even though I have previously stated that I am not a Christian you all say that Im a Christian anyway because I oppose you.
Or in BobQFspeak.....'Genuine Christian (TM)' or 'Genuine Catholic (TM)'
If you want to roll that way then so can I
<quoted text>
To correctly state it, a maltheist is someone who does not deny the existence of God but doesnt believe in him or publically acknowledge his existence.
Essentially a theist gone bad who views God as bad.
Lets look at you lot...you dont actually deny the existence of God but you also dont believe in him.
A comparison example.....
There is a guy called Obama
He is the president
.
You cannot deny that. True?
.
Do I believe Obama is a good president?
No I dont.
So it would be fair to say that I dont believe in him and that I have no faith in him, I cant deny the title of president but I can refuse to acknowledge it while he is there.
I would see him as a bad president because of his actions and his decisions, I would see him as bad and vice versa.
If you were to ask me about President Obama...could I say 'Hes not a president''Hes nothing''I really hate his followers as far as Im concerned he does not exist' or anything similar?
Thats what you do concerning God.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#33 Mar 28, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Take it up with the church of satan, they deny God and claim that satan is in their subconscious. In other words 'they are all satan'....but some satans are more narcissistic than the others. They might proclaim themselves equal before the public, but within that group there will always be 'satans' who want to be the 'one and only'.
And yes they are atheist (at least in public view......just like you)
The Church of Satan make up a tiny subset of the atheist population. They don't actually believe in Satan any more than they do in God. They see him/it as a useful symbol for their view of basic human nature, which they see as carnal and centered on self-interest and self promotion--quite narcissistic indeed.

But that doesn't have anything to do with the atheists in this forum as far as I know. None here are members or even sympathizers of LaVey or his followers, and I suspect that their disdain for us would equal your own. The above post is a "red herring," one of the classic fallacies I mentioned before.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#34 Mar 28, 2013
The serpent was right wrote:
<quoted text>
As for what you believe? If it walks like a theist, and walks like a theist, and quackes like a theist..... Anyhow, you have yet to have the balls to say what you believe concerning god. LOL!!
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I dispute your silly definition of a theist. Name your reference. Oh, and I have often stated(maybe not directly to you, but it would be obvious to all but the most ignorant...Oh that's you) that I am an atheist. I deny the existance of any god(s). Does that clear it up for you, oh dense one?.
.
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As for your absolutely ignorant little rant on "believeing" in Obama.... This is precisly why I point out time and time again that you clearly lack education, or common sense. Don't you know the difference between an atheists lack of belief in the very existance of a god, and your lack of belief in President Obama from the perspective that he is capable of doing a good job? Now, if you are a 10 year old, I could understand. Otherwise, LOL!!!!
Oh, and as far as a link and reference to when I took you apart.... Look at the prior paragraph. LOL!!! Like taking candy from a theist!!
Who but a theist of one sort or another would go to such effort to denigrate atheists and atheism? I think Siro was actually defining maltheism, albeit incorrectly. The definition most commonly returned from an internet search is a hatred of God or of gods. Obviously, that has little to do with atheism or even with the contempt for the god of the Bible that BOQF expresses so well. In order to hate God, one must believe in him. We don't.

Siro's basic fault in the way he's posted in the past is one we all share to some extent: we allow our emotions to overcome our judgment. It's been my experience that when emotions rise, intellect descends. Posting in anger is always a mistake.

Hey, I get angry as easily as anyone else. Why do you think I post less often than most here?

“Tis the Season for Reason!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#35 Mar 29, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly, in fact there was at least one incident where Siro paraded out still in the EW sock.
So, Siro and Educated What are the same person I didn't realize that, but then, I rarely read either of their posts anymore.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#36 Mar 29, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
<quoted text>
So, Siro and Educated What are the same person I didn't realize that, but then, I rarely read either of their posts anymore.
I think it is very, very likely, and thought so even before Siro answered as EW to a post where EW was happily trying to convince the thread that I was dying of an advanced age, not long after I had posted that I had entered my third quarter century of living on this planet. There was no denial when it was pointed out either.

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