Atheists, give up your lost religion ...
Good Without God

Georgia, GA

#41 Dec 3, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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Actually, they are highly educated biologists and geologists who actually understand the science (unlike you), PLUS they accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior.
What's YOUR problem? LOL
PLUS: "The Clergy letter Project" signed by 12,887 Christian clergy men and women as of today.
http://www.theclergyletterproject.org/
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We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist.
We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests.
To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children.
We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God’s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris.
We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge.
We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion, two very different, but complementary, forms of truth.
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His beloved Catholic Church has determined Evolution is compatible with his religion.

The Vatican claims Darwin's theory of evolution is compatible with Christianity

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/4588...
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#42 Dec 3, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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Like I said, believe it or don't; that will be between you and God when you are face to face with Him!
Assumes "facts" not in evidence.

Basically, your standard fundie Christian THREAT of eternal torture at the hands of Jesus unless....
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#43 Dec 3, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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It's just a suggestion that they should seek the Truth and give up their state of being lost. If my wording offends, then it's probably because they are offended by the truth of it!
Could also be your low-minded, self-righteous arrogance.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#44 Dec 3, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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The articles on the site I mentioned are peer reviewed. We are talking about the difference between evo. "science" and bible-based science. Why would I look for non-Christian sites to back up Christian assertions?
Peer-reviewed means one thing in the world of science.

It doesn't mean a Jesus Freak article passed around to other, like-minded Jesus Freak creationists who cluck approvingly.

But thanks for admitting that your babbling about evolution is totally religion-based and not science-based at all.

But we KNEW that, didn't we? LOL
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#45 Dec 3, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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And it's funny you should say this considering science began with "intelligent, thoughtful" people who were believers in a creator!
Yes, and they quickly learned to divorce their religious beliefs from their scientific pursuits because, as in the question of the age of the earth, it became readily clear that the Bible's creation stories were WAY OFF the factual reality of the age of the earth, the non-existence of two "first humans," the non-event of Noah's Flood, etc.

Some remained believers and were considered Theistic Evolutionists, while others simply went atheist or agnostic.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#46 Dec 3, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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Yes, and they quickly learned to divorce their religious beliefs from their scientific pursuits because, as in the question of the age of the earth, it became readily clear that the Bible's creation stories were WAY OFF the factual reality of the age of the earth, the non-existence of two "first humans," the non-event of Noah's Flood, etc.
Some remained believers and were considered Theistic Evolutionists, while others simply went atheist or agnostic.
There's also the little fact that NOT being religious back in the day could get you labeled a heretic and burned at the stake... or worse!
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#47 Dec 3, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>There's also the little fact that NOT being religious back in the day could get you labeled a heretic and burned at the stake... or worse!
Giordano Bruno, anyone?:)

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#48 Dec 3, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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Giordano Bruno, anyone?:)
It makes me wonder how many others caught wind of what happened to him and simply gave up what they were working on in order to avoid the same fate.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#49 Dec 4, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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Like I said, believe it or don't; that will be between you and God when you are face to face with Him!
Nope that will be between me and me, no god involved. I have no god crutch to blame for wasting my life, I am completely responsible to myself and the laws of the land I live.

There is no truth in the Jesus stories, your faith is based on lies and you prolong those lies every time you claim truth without evidence.

However if and when you are able to provide evidence you can come back and be the evangelical preacher to you hearts content. And of course providing such evidence would make you famous beyond avarice in the christian hierarchy. Funny how no one has managed it on 2000 years eh?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#50 Dec 4, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Nope that will be between me and me, no god involved. I have no god crutch to blame for wasting my life,...
Then who DO you blame for wasting your life?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#51 Dec 4, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Then who DO you blame for wasting your life?
I have only myself to blame with no second chances in heaven or Disneyland or whatever so, much to your consternation, I make the most of what I have.
LCNLin

United States

#52 Dec 4, 2013
"I have only myself to blame with no second chances in heaven or Disneyland or whatever so, much to your consternation, I make the most of what I have." Cm

You may be immortalized
by the long string of amusing posts on various threads?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#53 Dec 4, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
"I have only myself to blame with no second chances in heaven or Disneyland or whatever so, much to your consternation, I make the most of what I have." Cm
You may be immortalized
by the long string of amusing posts on various threads?
Depends what you mean by immortality.

Only godbots dream of the immortal soul.

However at the atomic level I know where every atom in my body came from and I know what will happen to every atom of my body for as long as this universe exists.

Is that immortal enough for you?
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#54 Dec 4, 2013
c
Gillette wrote:
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Peer-reviewed means one thing in the world of science.
It doesn't mean a Jesus Freak article passed around to other, like-minded Jesus Freak creationists who cluck approvingly.
But thanks for admitting that your babbling about evolution is totally religion-based and not science-based at all.
But we KNEW that, didn't we? LOL
Ha ha, no it means an evo. freak article passed around to other, like-minded evo. freak evolutionists who cluck approvingly. It's all about the preconceived notions you go into it with; Creationists are just honest about their presuppositions!
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#55 Dec 4, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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Actually, they are highly educated biologists and geologists who actually understand the science (unlike you), PLUS they accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior.
What's YOUR problem? LOL
PLUS: "The Clergy letter Project" signed by 12,887 Christian clergy men and women as of today.
http://www.theclergyletterproject.org/
Quote
We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist.
We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests.
To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children.
We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God’s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris.
We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge.
We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion, two very different, but complementary, forms of truth.
End quote
"Highly educated" means nothing when the higher educators are force-feeding them lies and they choose to blindly gobble it up.
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#56 Dec 4, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Nope that will be between me and me, no god involved. I have no god crutch to blame for wasting my life, I am completely responsible to myself and the laws of the land I live.
There is no truth in the Jesus stories, your faith is based on lies and you prolong those lies every time you claim truth without evidence.
However if and when you are able to provide evidence you can come back and be the evangelical preacher to you hearts content. And of course providing such evidence would make you famous beyond avarice in the christian hierarchy. Funny how no one has managed it on 2000 years eh?
There is a great deal of such evidence; your kind just choose to ignore it or belittle it. Good luck with your afterlife; oh that's right, you probably think there is no such thing; good luck with that, too!
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#57 Dec 4, 2013
Good Without God wrote:
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Your threats don't faze non-believers, just yourselves.
Not a threat, friend, just the truth. You see, there is such thing as truth. It is true that the sun will likely rise tomorrow morning. If I choose to say I don't believe that, do you fear a sunless morning (and I am not talking about cloud cover, I am talking about the sun disappearing altogether or being destroyed!)? No, because my belief changes nothing about the truth.
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#58 Dec 4, 2013
Again, I am not interested in your arguments. It's about faith anyway, and either your faith is in the illogical concepts of evolution or it is in the logical and God-given attestation of creation. Your choice, but choose carefully; God WILL require an answer of you for it!

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#59 Dec 4, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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Ha ha, no it means an evo. freak article passed around to other, like-minded evo. freak evolutionists who cluck approvingly. It's all about the preconceived notions you go into it with; Creationists are just honest about their presuppositions!
You used "creationist" and "honest" in the same sentence!! ROTFLMAO!!!

“Sweden more democratic thanUSA”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#60 Dec 4, 2013
ATT christarded trolls down voting atheists means that we are right and your up voted are trash!

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