God Hating Atheists Apparently Believe in Devil?

Nov 26, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Right Wing News

A pro-atheism billboard in Portland, Oregon was defaced causing the atheist group that paid for the sign upset that they had been "demonized." The billboard featured Mr.

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Again she was not sacrficed
judges 11:39,40
At this he said:“Go!” So he sent her away for two months; and she kept going, she with her girl companions, and weeping over her virginity upon the mountains.39And it came about at the end of two months that she made her return to her father, after which he carried out his vow that he had made toward her.
Right here. Exactly what was his vow toward her? To offer her as a burnt offering.
As for her, she never had relations with a man.
Because she was a burnt offering. She died.

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39 And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man.
The vow was that he would offer her as a burnt offering. This is what was done.
And it was a custom in Israel,
40 That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year."
So the daughter of Japhtah did NOT lament...the other daughters of Isreal did. Why? Because Jephtah's daughter was dead: she was a burnt offering.
Obviously someone told you a lie because clearly it she came back after 2 months .. It it possible for someone to burn and come back alive ?
No, that is NOT what is claimed. She went away for two months and *then* Jephtah fulfilled his vow toward her: that she would be a burnt offering.
It says the daughters went yearly to the temple . Which means they were not burned ok.
No, the daughters of Israel went, Jephtah's daughter did not. The daughter's of Israel mourned for her.
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..No, that is NOT what is claimed. She went away for two months and *then* Jephtah fulfilled his vow toward her: that she would be a burnt offering.
I hope the theist now gets the point. This tale of human sacrifce is one of the more unpleasant stories from the Bible. The old testament is full of barbarity. This is why most Christians today try to explain this as poetic or other such excuse. The fact remains this kind of story is unworthy of a god.

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If you were an English major and you think that any of the passages say that her father carried out his vow to make a burnt offering by merely keeping his daughter a virgin, the chair of the English Department should be dismissed for gross dereliction of duty.
She was not burnt, If you read the whole passage she and her virgin companions went to the mountains it says they came back 2 months later and that they continued to do it.
Judges 11:38-40"At this he said:“Go!” So he sent her away for two months; and she kept going, she with her girl companions, and weeping over her virginity upon the mountains.And it came about at the end of two months that she made her return to her father, after which he carried out his vow that he had made toward her. As for her, she never had relations with a man. And it came to be a regulation in Israel:From year to year the daughters of Israel would go to give commendation to the daughter of Jeph&#8242;thah the Gil&#8242;e&#8231;ad &#8231;ite, four days in the year".

If she was actually burned the closing of the paragraph would have said it. Instead it says she never had relations with a man. How can dead person have relations with a man? The way people talked and expressed certain actions was way different than do today.

If she was burned,that would make God a liar,and Satan would be right.Their would be no jesus because saving humans would be pointless. Satan challanged that humans can rule themselves and Satan would not sentenced because their would no last days.

There would no purpose of serving God because sin leads to death and if he did send his Son to die for our sins by his own he would have to let us die.His earthly kingdom would not be set up.

Humans would go exstinct, we do not know how to take care of the earth,the wars,the infertility programs, the fake food,disease,etc

jeph'thah daughter was not killed, The sacrfice of children comes from false worship,which really is the worship of demons as demostrated in Noahs day,Their influence leads to violence and death.(genesis 6:11,12). 1 corthians 10:20,

The last days are significant because of the demonic influence over humans, Any religion that involves,killing,sufferring,sp iritism,is demonic and means it is false.

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What was his vow to Yahweh? A burnt offering. And the fact she was a clean virgin was very important as it showed the level of his sacrifice.

She went to the mountains to weep that she would never be able to get married and lose her virginity, she returned after two months and her father kept his promise if offering her up as a burnt offering.

Later other women devastated about what happened to this innocent young girl came yearly to mourn for her tragic fate.

Nowhere does it say she kept coming back, other women came to mourn not her. The rest of your rambling is reaching in desperation. Jephthah promised a burnt offering to whatever came out of his house first, sadly that was his daughter, he after letting her weep for 2 months kept his promise which was offering her as a burnt offering.

It's crystal clear and right in front of you. It was your god's plan are you saying you know better than him?

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<quoted text>She was not burnt, If you read the whole passage she and her virgin companions went to the mountains it says they came back 2 months later and that they continued to do it.
Judges 11:38-40"At this he said:“Go!” So he sent her away for two months; and she kept going, she with her girl companions, and weeping over her virginity upon the mountains.And it came about at the end of two months that she made her return to her father, after which he carried out his vow that he had made toward her. As for her, she never had relations with a man. And it came to be a regulation in Israel:From year to year the daughters of Israel would go to give commendation to the daughter of Jeph&#8242;thah the Gil&#8242;e&#8231;ad &#8231;ite, four days in the year".

If she was actually burned the closing of the paragraph would have said it. Instead it says she never had relations with a man. How can dead person have relations with a man? The way people talked and expressed certain actions was way different than do today.

If she was burned,that would make God a liar,and Satan would be right.Their would be no jesus because saving humans would be pointless. Satan challanged that humans can rule themselves and Satan would not sentenced because their would no last days.

There would no purpose of serving God because sin leads to death and if he did send his Son to die for our sins by his own he would have to let us die.His earthly kingdom would not be set up.

Humans would go exstinct, we do not know how to take care of the earth,the wars,the infertility programs, the fake food,disease,etc

jeph'thah daughter was not killed, The sacrfice of children comes from false worship,which really is the worship of demons as demostrated in Noahs day,Their influence leads to violence and death.(genesis 6:11,12). 1 corthians 10:20,

The last days are significant because of the demonic influence over humans, Any religion that involves,killing,sufferring,sp iritism,is demonic and means it is false.

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The vow was that he would offer her as a burnt offering. This is what was done.
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So the daughter of Japhtah did NOT lament...the other daughters of Isreal did. Why? Because Jephtah's daughter was dead: she was a burnt offering.
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No, that is NOT what is claimed. She went away for two months and *then* Jephtah fulfilled his vow toward her: that she would be a burnt offering.
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No, the daughters of Israel went, Jephtah's daughter did not. The daughter's of Israel mourned for her.
And it came about at the end of two months that she made her return to her father, after which he carried out his vow that he had made toward her. As for her, she never had relations with a man. And it came to be a regulation in Israel .From year to year the daughters of Israel would go to give commendation to the daughter of Jeph&#8242;thah the Gil&#8242;e&#8231;ad &#8231;ite, four days in the year".

It says that they gave commendation to the daughter of jeph thah year after year. If was was dead how could they commend a dead burnt body year after year ???

She was not sacrificed, It says she never had relations with a man. And it came to be a regulation in Isreal. If she died it would have said it just like it mentions her father,Jesus etc

Judges 12:7"And Jeph&#8242;thah continued to judge Israel for six years, after which Jeph&#8242;thah the Gil&#8242;e&#8231;ad &#8231;ite died and was buried in his city in Gil&#8242;e&#8231;ad ".

If she burned the scripture would have said she was burned ( past tense or that she expired (died)
Luke 23:46 "And Jesus called with a loud voice and said:“Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit.” When he had said this, he expired"

If she was sacrificed, the regulation would be for all girls who were virgins to be sacrificed... The sacrifice of children is from false worship,and false worship is the worship of demons as it was before the flood cor 10:20, genesis 6:11

when you read bible scripture,you read all of the bible scriptures,if it does not fit thesis then it did not happen.


The ones who sacrificed their children were those who were not serving Yahweh, Like king Hezekiah
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2 kings 17;17,18 "and they continued to make their sons and their daughters pass through the fire and to practice divination and to look for omens, and they kept selling themselves to do what was bad in the eyes of Jehovah, to offend him;

18 Therefore Jehovah got very incensed against Israel, so that he removed them from his sight. He did not let any remain but the tribe of Judah alone."

2 kings 21:6 " And he made his own son pass through the fire, and he practiced magic and looked for omens and made spirit mediums and professional foretellers of events. He did on a large scale what was bad in Jehovah’s eyes, to offend him."

Why would God forbid the sacrifice of children and say that he was incensed at isreal if he allowed them to do it? Why would he say that it offended him the King hezekiah passed his own son through the fire?

Ezekiel 23:37 "For they have committed adultery and there is blood on their hands, and with their dungy idols they have committed adultery. And, besides that, their sons whom they had borne to me they made pass through [the fire] to them as food"

Jeremiah 32:35
"furthermore, they built the high places of Ba&#8242;al that are in the valley of the son of Hin&#8242;nom, in order to make their sons and their daughters pass through [the fire] to Mo&#8242;lech, a thing that I did not command them, neither did it come up into my heart to do this detestable thing, for the purpose of making Judah sin"

God does not allow the killing of children, that was one of the resons he allowed judah to be destroyed because they were supposed to be representing true worship
Its like a million scriptures saying that he does not sacrifice children.
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She was not burnt, If you read the whole passage she and her virgin companions went to the mountains it says they came back 2 months later and that they continued to do it.
Judges 11:38-40"At this he said:“Go!” So he sent her away for two months; and she kept going, she with her girl companions, and weeping over her virginity upon the mountains.And it came about at the end of two months that she made her return to her father, after which he carried out his vow that he had made toward her. As for her, she never had relations with a man. And it came to be a regulation in Israel:From year to year the daughters of Israel would go to give commendation to the daughter of Jeph&#8242;thah the Gil&#8242;e&#8231;ad &#8231;ite, four days in the year".
If she was actually burned the closing of the paragraph would have said it. Instead it says she never had relations with a man. How can dead person have relations with a man? The way people talked and expressed certain actions was way different than do today.
If she was burned,that would make God a liar,and Satan would be right.Their would be no jesus because saving humans would be pointless. Satan challanged that humans can rule themselves and Satan would not sentenced because their would no last days.
There would no purpose of serving God because sin leads to death and if he did send his Son to die for our sins by his own he would have to let us die.His earthly kingdom would not be set up.
Humans would go exstinct, we do not know how to take care of the earth,the wars,the infertility programs, the fake food,disease,etc
jeph'thah daughter was not killed, The sacrfice of children comes from false worship,which really is the worship of demons as demostrated in Noahs day,Their influence leads to violence and death.(genesis 6:11,12). 1 corthians 10:20,
The last days are significant because of the demonic influence over humans, Any religion that involves,killing,sufferring,sp iritism,is demonic and means it is false.
Think I a problem dyslexia you have with.

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Sorry your attempt to divert the subject with unrelated scriptures and your apologetic bleating cuts no ice.

Jephthah promised Yahweh that whatever came out of his house first would be offered up as a burnt offering yes? This was Jephthah's vow was it not?

Did Jephthah keep his vow to Yahweh?

The bible says yes, you say he broke his promise. So you are correct and the bible is wrong?

In that case the bible is hogwash.
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"Scratch and Atheist and out pops a agnostic" as the adage ......
Too much faith is required for atheism,and a bit of mumbo jumbo regarding physics.
Science remains silent on atheism.

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She was not burnt, If you read the whole passage she and her virgin companions went to the mountains it says they came back 2 months later and that they continued to do it.
Judges 11:38-40"At this he said:“Go!” So he sent her away for two months; and she kept going, she with her girl companions, and weeping over her virginity upon the mountains.And it came about at the end of two months that she made her return to her father, after which he carried out his vow that he had made toward her. As for her, she never had relations with a man. And it came to be a regulation in Israel:From year to year the daughters of Israel would go to give commendation to the daughter of Jeph&#8242;thah the Gil&#8242;e&#8231;ad &#8231;ite, four days in the year".
If she was actually burned the closing of the paragraph would have said it. Instead it says she never had relations with a man. How can dead person have relations with a man? The way people talked and expressed certain actions was way different than do today.
If she was burned,that would make God a liar,and Satan would be right.Their would be no jesus because saving humans would be pointless. Satan challanged that humans can rule themselves and Satan would not sentenced because their would no last days.
There would no purpose of serving God because sin leads to death and if he did send his Son to die for our sins by his own he would have to let us die.His earthly kingdom would not be set up.
Humans would go exstinct, we do not know how to take care of the earth,the wars,the infertility programs, the fake food,disease,etc
jeph'thah daughter was not killed, The sacrfice of children comes from false worship,which really is the worship of demons as demostrated in Noahs day,Their influence leads to violence and death.(genesis 6:11,12). 1 corthians 10:20,
The last days are significant because of the demonic influence over humans, Any religion that involves,killing,sufferring,sp iritism,is demonic and means it is false.
All religious lies with no proof.

All theists are cowards who run away from the important questions - why aren't you going to a doctor to get your mental illness cured?

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"Scratch and Atheist and out pops a agnostic" as the adage ......
Too much faith is required for atheism,and a bit of mumbo jumbo regarding physics.
Science remains silent on atheism.
Failed theist coward who can't prove his god.
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I hope the theist now gets the point. This tale of human sacrifce is one of the more unpleasant stories from the Bible. The old testament is full of barbarity. This is why most Christians today try to explain this as poetic or other such excuse. The fact remains this kind of story is unworthy of a god.
Could not agree more.
Alas the Christians have the best Art, the Vatican etc.
Much stolen :-)

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Could not agree more.
Alas the Christians have the best Art, the Vatican etc.
Much stolen :-)
Ignorant creationist trolls trying to prop up their failing cult.

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