Do You Really Think You'll EVER Get Rid of Evolution?

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Mr Smartypants

Cambridge, MN

#1 Dec 12, 2011
Probably not. Something like 99.8% of scientists in the NAS accept evolution. It's what's taught to paleontology students in CalTech and MIT. It's also pretty much a cornerstone of the life sciences from anthropology to zoology. In the scientific community, the debate over the validity of evolution was pretty much settled by the 1880s, and even the Catholic Church accepted it before the end of the 19th century. The Centers for Disease Control will continue to use an evolutionary model to track disease rather than a sin-based model. In short, even if you started burning scientists at the stake for teaching evolution, they will never give it up. The only reason a scientist would ever give up evolution is if there were another equally materialistic explanation that was even better--which is highly unlikely.

Do you Cretinists really think you'll get rid of evolution in the scientific community? Hint: hell no. The best that you can do is to get it taught in some hick state like Mississippi which will only cause Mississippi to go from 49th to 50th place in quality of education. It will also make it harder for anybody south of the Mason-Dixon Line to get a scholarship to MIT. However, you will never ever get real mainstream science to ever abandon evolution. You'll only continue to dumb down American students...
Amused

Milton, MA

#2 Dec 13, 2011
First they came for evolution...

Then they came for the special theory of relativity

Then they came for gravity. Then, there was no one left, because they all drifted away in a weightless void.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#3 Dec 13, 2011
Amused wrote:
First they came for evolution...
Then they came for the special theory of relativity
Then they came for gravity. Then, there was no one left, because they all drifted away in a weightless void.
Obviously, you've never heard of "Intelligent Falling".

" http://www.theonion.com/articles/evangelical-... ;
Mr Smartypants

United States

#4 Dec 14, 2011
What would be an interesting idea is to have hospitals offer 'Evolution Waivers' to patients that they have to sign before certain procedures. Basically, the Waiver points out that evolutionary theory is a basic cornerstone of modern medicine and that certain procedures like gene therapy are heavily based on evolution, and that getting such-and-such a therapy might be construed as a tacit support of evolution.

What would be a real hoot about this Waiver is that you could spread it under the guise of protecting creationists from 'evilution'. This way, showboating jackass politicians from the Red States would have the moral need to push an Evolution Waiver. However, ultimately it would serve as a constant reminder to the flat-earth crowd just how much modern medicine IS based on evolution. Even better is that a few of the more fanatical would refuse medical treatment because of this, and their shortened lifespans would further make the creationist crowd look stupid.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#5 Dec 14, 2011
Mr Smartypants wrote:
Probably not. Something like 99.8% of scientists in the NAS accept evolution. It's what's taught to paleontology students in CalTech and MIT. It's also pretty much a cornerstone of the life sciences from anthropology to zoology. In the scientific community, the debate over the validity of evolution was pretty much settled by the 1880s, and even the Catholic Church accepted it before the end of the 19th century. The Centers for Disease Control will continue to use an evolutionary model to track disease rather than a sin-based model. In short, even if you started burning scientists at the stake for teaching evolution, they will never give it up. The only reason a scientist would ever give up evolution is if there were another equally materialistic explanation that was even better--which is highly unlikely.
Do you Cretinists really think you'll get rid of evolution in the scientific community? Hint: hell no. The best that you can do is to get it taught in some hick state like Mississippi which will only cause Mississippi to go from 49th to 50th place in quality of education. It will also make it harder for anybody south of the Mason-Dixon Line to get a scholarship to MIT. However, you will never ever get real mainstream science to ever abandon evolution. You'll only continue to dumb down American students...
You have a slightly flawed argument. Evolution can't be gotten rid of anymore than gravity can. They are both facts.
Amused

Milton, MA

#8 Dec 14, 2011
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Obviously, you've never heard of "Intelligent Falling".
" http://www.theonion.com/articles/evangelical-... ;
I don't think creationists are capable of 'intelligent'*anything*.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#9 Dec 14, 2011
Mr Smartypants wrote:
What would be an interesting idea is to have hospitals offer 'Evolution Waivers' to patients that they have to sign before certain procedures. Basically, the Waiver points out that evolutionary theory is a basic cornerstone of modern medicine and that certain procedures like gene therapy are heavily based on evolution, and that getting such-and-such a therapy might be construed as a tacit support of evolution.
What would be a real hoot about this Waiver is that you could spread it under the guise of protecting creationists from 'evilution'. This way, showboating jackass politicians from the Red States would have the moral need to push an Evolution Waiver. However, ultimately it would serve as a constant reminder to the flat-earth crowd just how much modern medicine IS based on evolution. Even better is that a few of the more fanatical would refuse medical treatment because of this, and their shortened lifespans would further make the creationist crowd look stupid.
Yep-- they would only get "medicine" that was in use prior to the discovery of evolution.

There would be a stampede away from creationism in a second.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#10 Dec 14, 2011
Amused wrote:
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I don't think creationists are capable of 'intelligent'*anything*.
Oh, for certain: the word "intelligent" as used in the dogma of "intelligent falling" and "intelligent design" is purely editorial.

The actual meaning [as used by creationists] is pretty much a 180 from the common usage of the word "intelligent".
Richard

Saint Marys, Australia

#11 Dec 14, 2011
"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational force, but because a higher intelligence,'God' if you will, is pushing them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts University.

Oral Roberts University is an interdenominational Christian liberal arts university located in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Founded in 1963 by evangelist Oral Roberts

What the f... is a liberal arts university doing handing out degrees in Physics and what moron gave them accreditation to do so????
Amused

Milton, MA

#12 Dec 14, 2011
Richard wrote:
"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational force, but because a higher intelligence,'God' if you will, is pushing them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts University.
Oral Roberts University is an interdenominational Christian liberal arts university located in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Founded in 1963 by evangelist Oral Roberts
What the f... is a liberal arts university doing handing out degrees in Physics and what moron gave them accreditation to do so????
Ummm, Richard? The source is The Onion, which is a >parody< site, not a legit source of actual news. Really, not getting that this is satire is akin to listening to the 1812 Overture and not hearing the cannons.
random ntrygg

Surrey, Canada

#13 Dec 14, 2011
I think that that is the problem

the religitard take advantage of the modern world, which is naturalist/science driven

without understanding any of the science

if they don't accept it, no benefits of

I say

if you want to get the benefits, then you need to pay the cost - and that is being educated
Richard

Saint Marys, Australia

#14 Dec 14, 2011
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Ummm, Richard? The source is The Onion, which is a >parody< site, not a legit source of actual news. Really, not getting that this is satire is akin to listening to the 1812 Overture and not hearing the cannons.
Sorry, but then again it is just as stupid as all other godbot claims.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#15 Dec 14, 2011
Okay, folks, if you haven't already visited this site or heard the show on public radio (or even if you have), you ought to get a laugh or two out of it:

http://drscience.com/wordpress/

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#16 Dec 14, 2011
Richard wrote:
"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational force, but because a higher intelligence,'God' if you will, is pushing them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts University.
Oral Roberts University is an interdenominational Christian liberal arts university located in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Founded in 1963 by evangelist Oral Roberts
What the f... is a liberal arts university doing handing out degrees in Physics and what moron gave them accreditation to do so????
And I always thought "oral Roberts" were 2 gay guys named Bob.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#17 Dec 14, 2011
Here's an example that I particularly like:

I don’t like to study and so I’m not doing very well in school. Is there any subject that I could concentrate on that would be fun and easy to master…you know, that wouldn’t involve a bunch of tedious study?
———- from Bernie Brown of St. Louis Mo.

Have you considered nuclear physics? It’s even more unstructured than most art classes. You just do your own thing and see what happens. Since nobody really knows what the rules are, it’s anything goes, and the burden of proof lies anywhere but on you. If you can’t explain the results of your experiments, you just go ahead and invent another subatomic particle. Then, if somebody else agrees with you that the particle exists, they name it after you. You not only get away with murder, you get famous!

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#18 Dec 14, 2011
NightSerf wrote:
Okay, folks, if you haven't already visited this site or heard the show on public radio (or even if you have), you ought to get a laugh or two out of it:
http://drscience.com/wordpress/
Cute!

I actually do order sometimes from www.despair.com . It's a hoot!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#19 Dec 14, 2011
NightSerf wrote:
Okay, folks, if you haven't already visited this site or heard the show on public radio (or even if you have), you ought to get a laugh or two out of it:
http://drscience.com/wordpress/
Doctor Science.

He has a master's degree, too!

:)

I remember that show from several years ago-- I wondered what had happened.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#20 Dec 14, 2011
Hedonist wrote:
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And I always thought "oral Roberts" were 2 gay guys named Bob.
Well... that's a better joke than the actual joke that is ORU.

At least here in Tulsa...

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#21 Dec 14, 2011
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Doctor Science.
He has a master's degree, too!
:)
I remember that show from several years ago-- I wondered what had happened.
...in science!!!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#23 Dec 15, 2011
Christopher Hitchens wrote:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com /
... of S&H Green Stamps.

Oh, and souls too-- he redeems them for valuable prizes!

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