Gallup: In U.S., Rise in Religious "Nones" Slows in 2012

Jan 13, 2013 Full story: www.gallup.com 13

The 17.8% who reported no religious identity in 2012 is on par with 2011

The percentage of American adults who have no explicit religious identification averaged 17.8% in 2012, up from 14.6% in 2008 -- but only slightly higher than the 17.5% in 2011. The 2011 to 2012 uptick in religious "nones" is the smallest such year-to-year increase over the past five years of Gallup Daily tracking of religion in America. Full Story

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Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#1 Jan 13, 2013
As I've stated a few times over the past year or so, I've lost most of the little interest I initially had in the debate over atheism vs belief, but I do continue to follow changes in religious demographics as they are generated by reputable statisticians. Pew and ARIS are among my favorites, but Gallup is better at producing results in something approaching real time. This poll is a great example of that. I particularly like that they've presented these results with a minimum of interpretation, leaving that for the journalists who depend on their data most heavily. Thus, Gallup polls are far more reliable as sources of information than are the news articles and editorials that use them as sources.

This poll is particularly valuable for projecting the future because it shows which subpopulations are more likely to self-identify as "nones." As each of these groups numbers increase or decrease as percentages of the general adult population, the proportion of "nones" are likely to reflect those changes. Most notably, as my generation (50-64 in this poll) dies off and is replaced by younger ones, some as yet unborn, non-affiliation will probably increase, albeit at a slower rate to at least 20% and perhaps approaching 27%. Secularism and humanism seem likely to become much more prominent as factors in societal decision-making.

In that, I see great hope for the future that I will not live to see.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#3 Jan 13, 2013
testing.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#4 Jan 13, 2013
One two three.
EdSed wrote:
testing.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#5 Jan 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
One two three.
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I wrote a whole post that has disappeared. Topix is run by Gremlins.

Basically, I provided some stats for the UK indicating that belief in a god,(much less a specifically Abrahamic god) seemed much less prevalent than in the US.(Nightserf and I have discussed that before). Religion too seemed to be considered less important by populations in the UK than the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_...

It sometimes seems the USA is stuck in a timewarp and finds change threatening now, rather than welcome and worth embracing. USAmericans still appear (in general) more superstitious. This is an area where the USA seems to lag rather than lead.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#6 Jan 14, 2013
Topix infrastructure: flakier than a mille-feuille.
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>I wrote a whole post that has disappeared. Topix is run by Gremlins.
Basically, I provided some stats for the UK indicating that belief in a god,(much less a specifically Abrahamic god) seemed much less prevalent than in the US.(Nightserf and I have discussed that before). Religion too seemed to be considered less important by populations in the UK than the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_...
It sometimes seems the USA is stuck in a timewarp and finds change threatening now, rather than welcome and worth embracing. USAmericans still appear (in general) more superstitious. This is an area where the USA seems to lag rather than lead.
Tulko

Manassas, VA

#7 Jan 15, 2013
Thank God!!! Yes God! My God,(not the Christian god). My God created us all equally and does not care what we call him, does not plan to throw us into a pit of fire because his all powerful ego cannot handle absolute worship from my little grain of sand-being in the infinitely huge cosmos. My God says we are all connected, whether we acknowledge it or not and it is in our best interest to treat each other respectfully because we all can prosper together. There is no limitation on love, kindness or respect. The only barriers we have is the ones created by the people who think they are better or "special" compared to everyone else.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#8 Jan 21, 2013
This is great news and easy to see what with all the churches closing at record pace. People are simply moving away from the theocratic ways of the past and look forward to a more progressive secular humanist future.

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#9 Jan 21, 2013
People need to wake up and realize that religion is not a good thing, esp if it one of the three abrahamic ones.
Tulko

Manassas, VA

#10 Jan 21, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
People need to wake up and realize that religion is not a good thing, esp if it one of the three abrahamic ones.
IMHO, organized religion is the problem. I think religion is good for people on a personal level, and that is where I think it should stay. Not as a way to govern a country to boss people around. Sometime you do in the privacy in your own home for the betterment of yourself, if you choose to do so.

Its sad to see people connect to a God that has no respect for life. How many times in the Bible does God talk about going to/wanting or actually killing humans, talking about how horrible they are? Too many to count! Also, it is God that created most of us just to throw us in an eternal pit of fire so we can be tortured for eternity. Because the Bible says grace is only given through God's choice, if you don't get God's grace you are doomed, no matter what you do! Talk about a fear-based cult.

If you are Christian and this is what you want to align yourself with, I can't help but wonder if it is not out or fear. And, the devil that your are always threatening people with sounds an awful lot like your own God.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#11 Jan 21, 2013
So religion is bad but religion is good.... A benign church built around a delusion is still built around a delusion.
Tulko wrote:
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IMHO, organized religion is the problem. I think religion is good for people on a personal level, and that is where I think it should stay. Not as a way to govern a country to boss people around. Sometime you do in the privacy in your own home for the betterment of yourself, if you choose to do so.
Its sad to see people connect to a God that has no respect for life. How many times in the Bible does God talk about going to/wanting or actually killing humans, talking about how horrible they are? Too many to count! Also, it is God that created most of us just to throw us in an eternal pit of fire so we can be tortured for eternity. Because the Bible says grace is only given through God's choice, if you don't get God's grace you are doomed, no matter what you do! Talk about a fear-based cult.
If you are Christian and this is what you want to align yourself with, I can't help but wonder if it is not out or fear. And, the devil that your are always threatening people with sounds an awful lot like your own God.

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#12 Jan 22, 2013
Tulko wrote:
<quoted text>
IMHO, organized religion is the problem. I think religion is good for people on a personal level, and that is where I think it should stay. Not as a way to govern a country to boss people around. Sometime you do in the privacy in your own home for the betterment of yourself, if you choose to do so.
Its sad to see people connect to a God that has no respect for life. How many times in the Bible does God talk about going to/wanting or actually killing humans, talking about how horrible they are? Too many to count! Also, it is God that created most of us just to throw us in an eternal pit of fire so we can be tortured for eternity. Because the Bible says grace is only given through God's choice, if you don't get God's grace you are doomed, no matter what you do! Talk about a fear-based cult.
If you are Christian and this is what you want to align yourself with, I can't help but wonder if it is not out or fear. And, the devil that your are always threatening people with sounds an awful lot like your own God.
Agreed. The Bibical God admits that he is the creator of evil, yet people still say that he is a good god.
Tulko

Manassas, VA

#13 Jan 22, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
So religion is bad but religion is good.... A benign church built around a delusion is still built around a delusion.
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In some cases yes. Pagans quietly go about honoring the life forces in nature. Sometimes nurturing a tree or plants. It brings them joy, makes them feel connected to life outside their body. Buddhists and some other groups meditate. Those are just a few examples, there are many more religions and practices that I see as VERY GOOD.

However, I don't want the government to concern themselves with people who hug trees or spend quiet time in their own mind.

I don't think see religion as absolutely bad or nonsense, but I do think some religions are mostly nonsense and dangerous, too.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#14 Jan 22, 2013
Pagans are cool I used to bang a redhead pagan chick. Good times.

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