Mass. justices review Pledge of Allegiance

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Justices of Massachusetts' highest court examined the nature of the Pledge of Allegiance Wednesday as they heard a challenge from atheists who want the pledge banned in schools statewide. Full Story
Liz

Toronto, Canada

#1 Sep 5, 2013
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#2 Sep 8, 2013
Quote, "Children every morning are pledging their national unity and loyalty in an indoctrinating format, in a way that that validates God belief as truly patriotic and actually invalidates atheism."
I don't know that it invalidates atheism, but it does tend to imply that theism is acceptable to every citizen and it certainly denies non-believing children "meaningful participation in this patriotic exercise".

Quote, "No one has to say the pledge, they noted, citing a court ruling that confirms the pledge must always be voluntary. What's more, they said, reference to "one nation under God" does not necessarily affirm theistic belief."
How disingenuous can anyone get?! What non-believer would wish to participate in that?!

Religion = superstition
It's divisive and outdated
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#3 Sep 9, 2013
Pledging the flag is an act of worship, even tho you may disagree, so is praying or singing over candles, and so is singing or stating praises to a person, place or thing.

Matthew 4:9,10
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#4 Sep 9, 2013
I should rephrase that, so is singing and shouting praises to a person, place or thing, as in toasting a drink in unity of agreement. It may seem a little thing to people, but to Almighty God Jehovah, and even Satan the god of this world, it is worship.

Since: Jun 07

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#5 Sep 9, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
I should rephrase that, so is singing and shouting praises to a person, place or thing, as in toasting a drink in unity of agreement. It may seem a little thing to people, but to Almighty God Jehovah, and even Satan the god of this world, it is worship.
Now prove it isn't crazy behavior.
LCNLin

United States

#6 Sep 9, 2013
EdSed wrote:
Quote, "Children every morning are pledging their national unity and loyalty in an indoctrinating format, in a way that that validates God belief as truly patriotic and actually invalidates atheism."
I don't know that it invalidates atheism, but it does tend to imply that theism is acceptable to every citizen and it certainly denies non-believing children "meaningful participation in this patriotic exercise".
Quote, "No one has to say the pledge, they noted, citing a court ruling that confirms the pledge must always be voluntary. What's more, they said, reference to "one nation under God" does not necessarily affirm theistic belief."
How disingenuous can anyone get?! What non-believer would wish to participate in that?!
Religion = superstition
It's divisive and outdated
atheism = old hat Greek Philosophy dressed up for the internet
Amused

Lowell, MA

#7 Sep 9, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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atheism = old hat Greek Philosophy dressed up for the internet
Things been a little slow for you lately? After Tolkein, no one seems to write much about trolls these days.
LCNLin

United States

#8 Sep 9, 2013
Amused wrote:
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Things been a little slow for you lately? After Tolkein, no one seems to write much about trolls these days.
An evangelical atheist troll is one who not only believes there is no God or other supreme being, but is obsessed with convincing everyone around them to become an atheist too, usually through hard-line intolerance.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#9 Sep 10, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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atheism = old hat Greek Philosophy dressed up for the internet
Creationists are just an embarrassment. The liars can't prove their cult god and so start attacking atheism and science.

They have no morals to speak of and love to lie

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#10 Sep 10, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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An evangelical atheist troll is one who not only believes there is no God or other supreme being, but is obsessed with convincing everyone around them to become an atheist too, usually through hard-line intolerance.
Creationist trolls get bored when nobody pays them attention.

So they start to talk rubbish lies in the effort that their cult gets noticed.
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#11 Sep 11, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Now prove it isn't crazy behavior.
No one said it was crazy behavior, it is common and accepted behavior, and even expected behavior, because this is Satan's world we live in.
Satan the Devil has everyone worshipping the god of this world, Satan.
2Corinthians 4:4


Jehovah's witnesses don't care what anyone does, we do not judge anyone, our purpose is to tell the Good news that Jesus is King in heaven, and if you want to survive to live in God's new world of righteousness, you have to give up this world ruled by Satan the god of this world. We know people have their own beliefs, but there are some people who do want to know what the Bible is teaching today and do want to follow Jesus, not worship him, Jesus is not God, he is the only son of God and our King in heaven.
Collossians 1:15
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#12 Sep 11, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
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No one said it was crazy behavior,...
You're srill not paying attention.

It's been called delusional too....
https://www.google.co.uk/search...
and many other accurate terms.

Religion = superstition
(I hope that clears that one up!:-)

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