My Child, The Atheist

Mar 29, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Catholic Digest

It's 11:00 p.m. Do you know where your atheist child is? An alarming number of Catholic parents these days have seen their deepest fear come true.

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Wow. The writer of that article really lays it on think.

IMHO... most atheists become atheists because they decided to actually THINK about what they were being been fed regarding the religion they were raised with. By applying the same reasoning one would use to discount the existence of any other unsupportable claim (all other possible 'gods', leprechauns, unicorns, mermaids, dragons, etc.) they realize religious claims are no different.

Why do believers need to lie/mislead in order to support their beliefs?
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TerryL wrote:
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Why do believers need to lie/mislead in order to support their beliefs?
I think it's because they need lots of people to conform otherwise they're just nutters with superstitious beliefs.

Quote from article, "An alarming number of Catholic parents these days have seen their deepest fear come true. Not only have their children rejected Catholicism, they no longer believe in God."
That paragraph illustrates the silly attitude that results in emotional pressure applied by parents on their children - i.e. "you must believe or my deepest fears...".

I had to listen to blather like that. One doesn't want to hurt one's own parents but they have to understand that it's perfectly reasonable to consider religion to be nonsense. Times change. Even facts change with time,(e.g. it was once 'obvious' the world was flat). All religions end as mythologies because that's all they really are.

http://www.godchecker.com/

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EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>I think it's because they need lots of people to conform otherwise they're just nutters with superstitious beliefs.
Quote from article, "An alarming number of Catholic parents these days have seen their deepest fear come true. Not only have their children rejected Catholicism, they no longer believe in God."
That paragraph illustrates the silly attitude that results in emotional pressure applied by parents on their children - i.e. "you must believe or my deepest fears...".
I had to listen to blather like that. One doesn't want to hurt one's own parents but they have to understand that it's perfectly reasonable to consider religion to be nonsense. Times change. Even facts change with time,(e.g. it was once 'obvious' the world was flat). All religions end as mythologies because that's all they really are.
http://www.godchecker.com/
I guess I was lucky that my parents really never made comments like that. I never had to come right out and tell them I didn't believe in any 'gods' even the one preached about every Sunday when we went to church, they just made the assumption and left it at that. I think the only time my mother even brought up religion to me after I left the house was when my son was born. She asked if I was going to have him baptized. I said "no"... and aside from the mildly disapproving look she gave me, she never said another word about it.

I have no problem with people that choose to maintain a belief in whatever 'god' they choose, as long as they keep it personal. I don't even mind if they can talk about their beliefs as being their "belief" and not some divinely inspired edict handed down by some 'god' that mandates everyone fall in lock-step and believe as they do or burn in hell.

Once they attempt to lord it over the heads of people that don't share that view in the form of laws that govern everyone and public school curriculum changes that attempt to elevate their faith based views to be on the same level as proven scientific disciplines, then they have crossed the line and deserve all the ridicule they ask for.

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I what to go Though a few this in this article (trash).
“Every former atheist with whom Catholic Digest spoke noted that they either came from a broken home, had a terrible father figure, or both.” WTF I don’t come from a broken home by my standards away their standards are most likely are; good family = mum + dad + religion + kids. And here at “had a terrible father figure” why can’t it be a terrible mother figure? This idea that only daddy can go bad is a stereotype showing that this sentence has most likely a lie…

“Matt Simmons says his life was “empty” and “out of control,” and nothing filled “the hole” he felt inside, which left him “suicidal.””
Everyone can feel suicidal because their life is empty and out of control, but let’s look in to that… 3 of the 5 happiest countries have some the lowest religiosity.
http://www.utne.com/Mind-Body/the-worlds-happ...
Is this what one would see if (like the quoted seems to imply) atheism courses helplessness? No. This is another stereotype which shows this article for what it is…
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Laughable. I was raised in an intact, 2 parent home. My mother was so catholic, I suspected the pope called her to ask for advice. I was sent to catholic high schools. I was an altar boy for about 6-7 years. None of it prevented me from thinking for myself. Once I started questioning what I was taught, there was no way I could reconcile what I was taught with what reason told me was true. By sophomore year of high school, I was already an atheist.

Broken homes don't cause atheism.

Bad parenting does not cause atheism.

Thinking causes atheism.
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There's a couple of takeaways for fundies in that article, though.

"Most atheists value truth above all else, so give them the unadorned truth. Be sure you know what you’re talking about, though. Don’t guess."

"Don’t attack their intentions, even when they’re argumentative and angry. Understand that most atheists don’t intend to be malicious. Rather, most sincerely believe in doing what they believe is best for themselves and humanity."
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TerryL wrote:
Wow. The writer of that article really lays it on think.
IMHO... most atheists become atheists because they decided to actually THINK about what they were being been fed regarding the religion they were raised with. By applying the same reasoning one would use to discount the existence of any other unsupportable claim (all other possible 'gods', leprechauns, unicorns, mermaids, dragons, etc.) they realize religious claims are no different.
Why do believers need to lie/mislead in order to support their beliefs?
Irony that atheist spend so much time talking about God and themselves.
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EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>I think it's because they need lots of people to conform otherwise they're just nutters with superstitious beliefs.
Quote from article, "An alarming number of Catholic parents these days have seen their deepest fear come true. Not only have their children rejected Catholicism, they no longer believe in God."
That paragraph illustrates the silly attitude that results in emotional pressure applied by parents on their children - i.e. "you must believe or my deepest fears...".
I had to listen to blather like that. One doesn't want to hurt one's own parents but they have to understand that it's perfectly reasonable to consider religion to be nonsense. Times change. Even facts change with time,(e.g. it was once 'obvious' the world was flat). All religions end as mythologies because that's all they really are.
http://www.godchecker.com/
President Obama and VP Biden seem to disagree with atheism.

Libertarians seem to be people with government jobs.
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Thinking wrote:
There's a couple of takeaways for fundies in that article, though.
"Most atheists value truth above all else, so give them the unadorned truth. Be sure you know what you’re talking about, though. Don’t guess."
"Don’t attack their intentions, even when they’re argumentative and angry. Understand that most atheists don’t intend to be malicious. Rather, most sincerely believe in doing what they believe is best for themselves and humanity."
What a joke:-)
Atheists lies as often as others
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Lincoln wrote:
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What a joke:-)
Atheists lies as often as others
Sure they can. They're human just like anyone else. They can be good or bad, just like theists too.

But what matters around these threads is how often they lie here. Proportionately speaking, 99.999999999999999999999% of the fundie creationists on Topix are habitual lying scumbags.

For the atheists side, they have Skippy the Skeptic.
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Take it up with the believer that wrote article. Or GFY. Or both.
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What a joke:-)
Atheists lies as often as others
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Lincoln wrote:
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What a joke:-)
Atheists lies as often as others
People act according to their nature and nurture. That doesn't argue there's any advantage to superstition or religion.

Atheists don't try to pretend creationism or religion make sense.
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Sure they can. They're human just like anyone else. They can be good or bad, just like theists too.
But what matters around these threads is how often they lie here. Proportionately speaking, 99.999999999999999999999% of the fundie creationists on Topix are habitual lying scumbags.
For the atheists side, they have Skippy the Skeptic.
You make up statistics !
An interesting art, making up statistics.
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TerryL wrote:
Wow. The writer of that article really lays it on think.
IMHO... most atheists become atheists because they decided to actually THINK about what they were being been fed regarding the religion they were raised with. By applying the same reasoning one would use to discount the existence of any other unsupportable claim (all other possible 'gods', leprechauns, unicorns, mermaids, dragons, etc.) they realize religious claims are no different.
Why do believers need to lie/mislead in order to support their beliefs?
Thinking atheists realize that cause is lost in the U S A.
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You make up statistics !
An interesting art, making up statistics.
Nah, just going by my experience on here. I've been on Topix for what, maybe four years? And to date I have only come across one honest fundie.

So okay, maybe I exaggerated just a *little* bit. I probably should have halved the amount of decimal places.

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For the atheists side, they have Skippy the Skeptic.
F*ck off you faker there are no sides. There's only mutual reality. And in that reality there is no such thing as god and never has been.

You don't represent athiests or speak for them and neither do I. Foolish troll twit.

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You make up statistics !
An interesting art, making up statistics.
You made up your f*cking god, how's that for a reality check?

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Sure they can. They're human just like anyone else. They can be good or bad, just like theists too.
But what matters around these threads is how often they lie here. Proportionately speaking, 99.999999999999999999999% of the fundie creationists on Topix are habitual lying scumbags.
For the atheists side, they have Skippy the Skeptic.
And then there are those who claim to be atheists but let slip they believe in the supernatural. That is lying too.

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You made up your f*cking god, how's that for a reality check?
"He" didn't make up the Christian god, he's just a follower.

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Lincoln wrote:
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Irony that atheist spend so much time talking about God and themselves.
lol

That's just Topix atheists, they are a separate breed from the normal atheists.

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