How to get saved by Jesus?

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My tiny todgered tribute troll says "candyman" repeatedly to no avail.
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Doesn't it have something to do with clicking heels three times?
No, that's another sumthin sumthin...
Jumanji.
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Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>You're proof enough a god doesn't exist.
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Only if you caused yourself to exist, did you? That's the only evidence that a man is himself proof that God does not exist. Did I hear you? Well, yes or no?

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Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text> I exist because of my parents and not some deity.
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And your parents? From their parents? And their parents from their parents and so forth to the first parents. Did they cause themselves to exist? I don't think so. So the Primal Cause is implied at least until you answer my question if something can cause itself to exist.

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And your parents? From their parents? And their parents from their parents and so forth to the first parents. Did they cause themselves to exist? I don't think so. So the Primal Cause is implied at least until you answer my question if something can cause itself to exist.
Being uncaused and causing itself are different things. There are many things that are uncaused.

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Shibolet wrote:
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And your parents? From their parents? And their parents from their parents and so forth to the first parents. Did they cause themselves to exist? I don't think so. So the Primal Cause is implied at least until you answer my question if something can cause itself to exist.
Theres this thing called evolution, which your mental illness prevents you from understanding or accepting.

F*ck know why that is, its probably because you're thick & arrogant.

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Shibolet wrote:
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And your parents? From their parents? And their parents from their parents and so forth to the first parents. Did they cause themselves to exist? I don't think so. So the Primal Cause is implied at least until you answer my question if something can cause itself to exist.
Once your able to prove a primal cause, we'll all join your cult. But the fact is nobody can or has and there's lots of evidence to suggest that the primal cause that your cult imagined up is most definitely made up and not real.

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Being uncaused and causing itself are different things. There are many things that are uncaused.
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Nothing is uncaused. Why don't you mention some of the uncaused things? You don't know; you are bluffing.

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Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>And who created your god? God always existed is no answer, since it had to have a beginning as you claim we did.
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God would not be God if It had been created.

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Theres this thing called evolution, which your mental illness prevents you from understanding or accepting.
F*ck know why that is, its probably because you're thick & arrogant.
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That's a non sequitur. Evolution would change nothing as the issue here is concerned as evolution did not come from nothing. Even with evolution an answer for the fact that the prototype could not have caused itself to exist would still be demanded but your mental illness cannot apprehend.

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Once your able to prove a primal cause, we'll all join your cult. But the fact is nobody can or has and there's lots of evidence to suggest that the primal cause that your cult imagined up is most definitely made up and not real.
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All I need to prove the Primal Cause is your explanation of how the universe could have caused itself to exist. Then, and only then
I will join your cult.

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Theres this thing called evolution, which your mental illness prevents you from understanding or accepting.
F*ck know why that is, its probably because you're thick & arrogant.
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How can masters of arrogance which atheists in general are and you in particular charge anyone else with being arrogant? Even this simple concept you show inability to apprehend.
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How can masters of arrogance which atheists in general are and you in particular charge anyone else with being arrogant? Even this simple concept you show inability to apprehend.
You believe that there exists an all-knowing, all-powerful being capable of creating the entire universe. You believe that you can call upon this infinitely powerful being to grant you your prayers. You believe that this all powerful being takes a deep interest in you and your doings. If you don't see the arrogance in thinking you are so special that such a being spends vast amounts of effort on you, there's really no hope for you.
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Foolish Atheist, you will see on judgement day, the grace of god you turned down your entire life when you are being thrown into hell
It's as likely that I will be forever impaled on the horn of the Great Invisible Pink Unicorn that I also don't believe in. I don't lose any sleep over that possibility either. Do you?

The koran says all non-muslims go straight to hell when they die. That does not scare either you or me.

If you don't buy into the rest of the fantasy, the scary "believe this or else part" is about as impressive as the average chain letter.

On the other hand, the fact that you think the hell threat is the very best argument you have for the existence of your god is a pretty good gauge of how weak your other arguments are.

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You believe that there exists an all-knowing, all-powerful being capable of creating the entire universe. You believe that you can call upon this infinitely powerful being to grant you your prayers. You believe that this all powerful being takes a deep interest in you and your doings. If you don't see the arrogance in thinking you are so special that such a being spends vast amounts of effort on you, there's really no hope for you.
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All your questions above are no different from the questions of theist believers of talking serpents. If the all-powerful Being is
not able to give origin to the universe, go right ahead and tell me if and how the universe caused itself into existence. If you don't give me an answer to my question there is no way I will lend an ear to your balderdash.

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Nothing is uncaused. Why don't you mention some of the uncaused things? You don't know; you are bluffing.
Every nuclear decay. Every decay of a muon. Almost all quantum processes.

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Nothing is uncaused.
Including your deity?
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All your questions above are no different from the questions of theist believers of talking serpents. If the all-powerful Being is
not able to give origin to the universe, go right ahead and tell me if and how the universe caused itself into existence. If you don't give me an answer to my question there is no way I will lend an ear to your balderdash.
Shorter Shibolet: I got no answer, so I'll pose an irrelevant counterquestion.

Let me guess, when you served in the IDF, you were an instructor in Escape and Evasion.

Science has not yet reached the point where we can answer the question how did the universe come into existence. Perhaps it will, perhaps it won't. In either case, an invisible man poofed it all into existence is not a reasonable alternative.

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Every nuclear decay. Every decay of a muon. Almost all quantum processes.
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And all came right out of the hat of the magician? Try again.

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Including your deity?
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Okay, who then caused my deity if It was not uncaused?

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Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Which dismisses your whole fairy tale.
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Which dismisses your ability to think.

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