Who is an atheist?

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Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#22 Jun 1, 2010
Divine Alien wrote:
One must understand that God is invisible/imaginary.
Oh, I understand that God is imaginary.
jack13

El Paso, TX

#23 Jun 2, 2010
Divine Alien wrote:
<quoted text>Yes...this universe and the fact that you are here are all evidence!!!
The universe was here 4.5 billion years, give or take a million, before the first human walked on earth. What took your god so long to get around to creating you? I'd rather give my mother and father credit for my existence than some fable from La La land.

“so like uhh! whats the deal?”

Since: May 09

planet earth.

#24 Jun 2, 2010
jack13 wrote:
<quoted text> The universe was here 4.5 billion years, give or take a million, before the first human walked on earth. What took your god so long to get around to creating you? I'd rather give my mother and father credit for my existence than some fable from La La land.
Radio carbon dating is flawed its like religious god, an idea on why it should be so, but without proper evidence who can say how badly flawed either idea really is?
I dont care about either of it now to be sure, but its funny reading people getting all hyper over it as i used to do it myself.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#25 Jun 2, 2010
paul sinclair wrote:
<quoted text>Radio carbon dating is flawed its like religious god, an idea on why it should be so, but without proper evidence who can say how badly flawed either idea really is?
I dont care about either of it now to be sure, but its funny reading people getting all hyper over it as i used to do it myself.
Why do you think that radiocarbon dating is relevant to the age of the earth?
Richard

Ashfield, Australia

#26 Jun 2, 2010
polymath257 wrote:
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Why do you think that radiocarbon dating is relevant to the age of the earth?
Because he thinks it just over 6000 years old?

“Liberal and proud of it.”

Since: Jun 08

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#27 Jun 2, 2010
Drew Smith wrote:
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Oh, I understand that God is imaginary.
Agreed. Why do people insist on defining atheists when it's theists who need to be analysis?

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Since: Jun 08

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#28 Jun 2, 2010
NightSerf wrote:
We're going to see a huge range of opinion in this thread. It's shared by the World News, Opinion, Top Stories, United Kingdom, England, United Kingdom, Cambridge, England, Cambridgeshire County, England, and Atheist forums. I post from the atheist forum, and I think it will be interesting if people identify their home forums as they post.
On the atheist forum, we tend to come down rather hard on believers, mostly because of the mostly fundamental Christians who post in obsessive attempts to prove us wrong and gather us into their folds. When rebuffed with our characteristic vigor, they resort to predictable patterns of arguments laced with contempt and threats of hellfire, but utterly devoid of the one thing that we respect: logic.
But from our lives OUTSIDE of Topix, we all know Christians of the real world as friends and neighbors, and family neighbors. We go fishing with them, drink beer over sports on TV, play cards, and even work on a civic project or two here and there. Likewise, in that same real world, most of us are more laid back about our beliefs or lack of them and even come to church services when invited.
In one of his inaugural addresses, FDR said "We have nothing to fear but fear itself." I'd like to add a corollary to that: we have no enemies but enmity itself. No two people share exactly the same belief structure, but we can always share a mutual respect.
We have no enemies but enmity itself.
Good post. However, the more Hitchens I read and hear the more anti-theist as opposed to atheist I become.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Brentwood, TN

#29 Jun 2, 2010
Jen Hussein wrote:
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Good post. However, the more Hitchens I read and hear the more anti-theist as opposed to atheist I become.
...meaning that you believe in God but He and/or his followrs piss you off? Now you've stimulated my curiosity. Could you describe your position it more detail?

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Since: Jun 08

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#30 Jun 2, 2010
NightSerf wrote:
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...meaning that you believe in God but He and/or his followrs piss you off? Now you've stimulated my curiosity. Could you describe your position it more detail?
No, meaning that what is done in the name of a god pisses me off. More and more I'm finding it hard to sit back and say, "Whatever lifts your luggage or floats your boat or puts you in touch with a spiritual center or moral sense of guidance... is fine with me." Now I'm finding that it makes me angry to think of people oh I don't know, denying gay couples the right to marry or adopt in the name of Jesus, or cutting off girls' clitorises in the name of God, or blowing themselves up on buses in the name of Allah. I am no longer OK with people finding their path to enlightenment however they can. I'm getting to be anti-religion and anti-theist. People need to be freed from this notion that there is a supreme being to worship and take responsibility for the evil they do in his/her/its name.
jack13

El Paso, TX

#31 Jun 2, 2010
paul sinclair wrote:
<quoted text>Radio carbon dating is flawed its like religious god, an idea on why it should be so, but without proper evidence who can say how badly flawed either idea really is?
I dont care about either of it now to be sure, but its funny reading people getting all hyper over it as i used to do it myself.
Christianity is flawed. What has that got to do with my statement?
Rev_Kenneth

Malvern, AR

#32 Jun 2, 2010
Divine Alien wrote:
Atheists are people who refuse to accept the fact that there's God.
Atheists is a label made up by christians that is trying to force their belief system on others. It is strange I have many so called religious people pounding on my front door trying to save my immortal hole but never have had a athiest come by and try to make me follow him. Just a thought.
Rev_Kenneth

Malvern, AR

#33 Jun 2, 2010
Drew Smith wrote:
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Oh, I understand that God is imaginary.
he is not imaginary, he is off on a fishing trip with Santa Clause, and the Easter Bunny

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#34 Jun 2, 2010
Jen Hussein wrote:
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No, meaning that what is done in the name of a god pisses me off. More and more I'm finding it hard to sit back and say, "Whatever lifts your luggage or floats your boat or puts you in touch with a spiritual center or moral sense of guidance... is fine with me." Now I'm finding that it makes me angry to think of people oh I don't know, denying gay couples the right to marry or adopt in the name of Jesus, or cutting off girls' clitorises in the name of God, or blowing themselves up on buses in the name of Allah. I am no longer OK with people finding their path to enlightenment however they can. I'm getting to be anti-religion and anti-theist. People need to be freed from this notion that there is a supreme being to worship and take responsibility for the evil they do in his/her/its name.
Whenever a belief is held so strongly that you are willing to kill or torture another person just because of that idea, there are serious problems just around the corner. Religion has the additional aspect that it cannot be demonstrated one way or the other, which leads to fanaticism and hence to many of the negatives. But, as our religious friends will point out, there are other similar motivators, whether they be political (Stalin, Khmer Rouge, Mao, etc), social (racism, sexism, etc) or otherwise (soccer, in some cases).

That is why I am ultimately a humanist: I believe we have to start treating each other better and stop using religion or politics or skin color as an excuse to be nasty.

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Since: Jun 08

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#35 Jun 2, 2010
polymath257 wrote:
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Whenever a belief is held so strongly that you are willing to kill or torture another person just because of that idea, there are serious problems just around the corner. Religion has the additional aspect that it cannot be demonstrated one way or the other, which leads to fanaticism and hence to many of the negatives. But, as our religious friends will point out, there are other similar motivators, whether they be political (Stalin, Khmer Rouge, Mao, etc), social (racism, sexism, etc) or otherwise (soccer, in some cases).
That is why I am ultimately a humanist: I believe we have to start treating each other better and stop using religion or politics or skin color as an excuse to be nasty.
Well said. Politics, like religion, are often used as a greater good, but they're also often mixed with religion. Racism? I look at that "excuse" as a social illness.
atheist infidel

Los Angeles, CA

#36 Jun 2, 2010
re: thread title...

me, boo yah !
atheist infidel

Los Angeles, CA

#37 Jun 2, 2010
Jen Hussein wrote:
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No, meaning that what is done in the name of a god pisses me off. More and more I'm finding it hard to sit back and say, "Whatever lifts your luggage or floats your boat or puts you in touch with a spiritual center or moral sense of guidance... is fine with me." Now I'm finding that it makes me angry to think of people oh I don't know, denying gay couples the right to marry or adopt in the name of Jesus, or cutting off girls' clitorises in the name of God, or blowing themselves up on buses in the name of Allah. I am no longer OK with people finding their path to enlightenment however they can. I'm getting to be anti-religion and anti-theist. People need to be freed from this notion that there is a supreme being to worship and take responsibility for the evil they do in his/her/its name.
good for you..... peace

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Sevierville, TN

#38 Jun 2, 2010
Rev_Kenneth wrote:
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he is not imaginary, he is off on a fishing trip with Santa Clause, and the Easter Bunny
... and a couple of honest lawyers and politicians.

“Jesus forgives..... ”

Since: May 08

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#40 Jun 3, 2010
jack13 wrote:
<quoted text> The universe was here 4.5 billion years, give or take a million, before the first human walked on earth. What took your god so long to get around to creating you? I'd rather give my mother and father credit for my existence than some fable from La La land.
I know that's a too short a process for your parents heh heh heh.....

“Jesus forgives..... ”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#41 Jun 3, 2010
jack13 wrote:
<quoted text> Christianity is flawed. What has that got to do with my statement?
You are a flawed human, Jack!

“Jesus forgives..... ”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#42 Jun 3, 2010
Rev_Kenneth wrote:
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Atheists is a label made up by christians that is trying to force their belief system on others. It is strange I have many so called religious people pounding on my front door trying to save my immortal hole but never have had a athiest come by and try to make me follow him. Just a thought.
They knew well ahead that they will never be saved as atheists. No God save them!

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