Atheism and the ten commandments

Jul 10, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: News24

The ten commandments, as described in the Biblical books of Exodus and Deuteronomy, is an icon of moral law and recently used by religious people to bash atheists over. Some religious people would go so far as to say that they are the foundation or the definition of morality. Is this true though?

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Lamoni, IA

#1 Jul 10, 2012
three of them are OK, if sufficiently explained and modified, and given gradations of seriousness. not to kill, not to steal, and not to bear false witness against another. but lots of folks would agree with those, whether theists or not. first do no harm is a nice moral precept, as well. we are lucky that many sensible bits of advice about behavior are similar despite differences in theology. I believe in an ethic I call informed kindness. kind intent, plus knowing enough to know what the consequences of one's action or inaction would be. even knowing when one does not know, and knowing what expert to consult as quickly as possible. even carrying a cell phone with the numbers of good cops on it, is a version of that. (not if the police in your town are corrupt, racist, sexist, inept, lazy, or otherwise not good) having an idea about dangers one should not go into, or allow others to go into, is a good beginning.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#2 Jul 15, 2012
Just think how much better things would have been if there was a commandment that said something like...

"Thou shalt not kill people with different beliefs, treat women as inferior, steal land in my name, or own slaves."

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#3 Jul 15, 2012
Khatru wrote:
Just think how much better things would have been if there was a commandment that said something like...
"Thou shalt not kill people with different beliefs, treat women as inferior, steal land in my name, or own slaves."
Don't rape, especially children.

But instead, the great and all knowing god wasted several of the ten commandments on him.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#4 Jul 15, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Don't rape, especially children.
But instead, the great and all knowing god wasted several of the ten commandments on him.
including the first three or four. Not murdering people was only number 5 and that is contradicted elsewhere in the 'Good Book'. And the Quran looks (if anything) even crazier.

And these are the words of God/Allah from which we are to know him?(Of course, it's a 'Him'). How stupid is this god?

That some people apparently don't see through this nonsense and acknowledge that they're just old books written by men is remarkable.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#5 Jul 15, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>including the first three or four. Not murdering people was only number 5 and that is contradicted elsewhere in the 'Good Book'. And the Quran looks (if anything) even crazier.
And these are the words of God/Allah from which we are to know him?(Of course, it's a 'Him'). How stupid is this god?
That some people apparently don't see through this nonsense and acknowledge that they're just old books written by men is remarkable.
And they never stop to ask; "Why would a god need me to kill for him?" Lucky for us, most christians today, ignore their god's demands.

“Reason's Greetings!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#6 Jul 15, 2012
Why are xtians concerned about nonbelievers not following their own xtian rules?

Christians should be more concerned about their own flock not following not only those popular 10 commandments, but the other, more than 600 rules.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#7 Jul 17, 2012
Buddha got it down to 5 precepts which seem to work quite as well:

Don't Kill
Don't Lie
Don't steal
Don't commit adultery
Don't drink alcohol.

Covers even more ground in fewer, clearer words than the ten commandments. No worrying about graven images, use of any deity's name, false gods etc. Just a few basic rules to live a good life. In my experience, though, Buddhists tend to honor #5 more in the breach.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#8 Jul 17, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>including the first three or four. Not murdering people was only number 5 and that is contradicted elsewhere in the 'Good Book'. And the Quran looks (if anything) even crazier.
And these are the words of God/Allah from which we are to know him?(Of course, it's a 'Him'). How stupid is this god?
That some people apparently don't see through this nonsense and acknowledge that they're just old books written by men is remarkable.
The one about not killing was contradicted almost immediately. According to the bible, Moses came down off the mountain with the tablets, only to be greeted by the sight of the Jews cavorting with a graven image of a golden calf. God sees it too. And, having just personally carved Moses a tablet bearing the commandment not to kill, the first order god gives is to tell Moses to get some armed men and kill those people. That's a commandment that didn't remain absolute for long.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#9 Jul 25, 2012
Most of the ten commandments were lifted right out of the Egyptian book of the dead. Spell 125.

I have not killed became thou shalt not kill.
I have not added to the balance weights became thou shalt not steal.
I have not brought my name foreward to be praised became no gods before me...etc

Then again, the story of Jesus was mostly plagaerized from the story of Horus which was written approx. 3000 B.C.

It seems ironic to me that "Thou shalt not steal" is part of one of the greatest acts of plagiarism ever.

Deriving morality from the bible also tickles my irony bone, but I think we all know where that goes.

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