Religion is a crutch

Nov 20, 2013 Full story: DFW Catholic

The charge by some atheists that "religion is a crutch" is rather common. When I was a atheist I had heard the phrase and instantly agreed with it.

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“you must not give faith”

Since: Jul 12

Nottingham, UK

#1 Nov 21, 2013
"The charge by some atheists that “religion is a crutch” is rather common. When I was a atheist I had heard the phrase and instantly agreed with it. It was just so much better to live by pure reason and to know that when you die “that’s all folks.”" Oh joy it's one of the ex atheists lot, 90% chance that this blogger don't actually know what he talking or he is lying through his teeth.

"I would think that to believe otherwise was just pure wish-fulfillment and escapism to deny the simple fact that “life sucks and then you die.”" When I hear ex atheist talk like that I want to walk along the line between legitimate calling out and "no true scotsman". This “life sucks and then you die” is not the way any of the "big" atheists talk and I don't know any atheist who talks like that.

"Some make the counter-charge that atheism is also a crutch. That and atheistic belief can be comforting and wish-fulfillment in that ultimately there are not consequences to your actions. You never have to repent of your own perceived faults other than what seems to cause external problems in your day-to-day life. This counter-charge might have some truth to it. Although I would suspect that it a rather small factor in atheism." Coming from someone who thinks that God will forgive everything even though you didn't hurt it, so you know what F*** you even if you think it is only a small factor F*** you! I do think their consequences for my actions and I treat them with much more concern than you confession goers.

"For most of my time as an atheist this charge would have been way off the mark. I held that atheism was true and self-evident and thus this was the purest reason to hold to it." I need walk the line between reason and fallacy no more, I am calling this ex atheist out.

"This took a bit of a hit as I grow to realize my myriad faults were something beyond just faults but something even into the territory of sin. Yet “sin” was too theological and I thought surely using reason and will I could overcome those faults that I perceived caused damage in my life. I could overcome these eventually while being able to keep all those faults I liked or thought didn’t really matter.

All of the events that paved the way for me to being open to faith ultimately came down to the reality of sin and working very backward to the reality of God." So you became a theist ultimately because you used a poetic word for evil..?

"During this transition period there was a time as an atheist where I was forcefully clinging to my atheist faith trying to shore it up with atheist books and a dose of Ayn Rand." Ayn Rand! So that explains why he says things that the rest of us say make no sense. To put Ayn Rand in a nutshell she gets no better than this "She carried on an increasingly toxic sexual affair with a married disciple 25 years her junior; when he had his own affair with a younger woman, Rand slapped him, excommunicated him, and falsely accused him of embezzlement." http://nymag.com/arts/books/features/60120/in...

"I realize now just how much I feared leaving atheism behind. I just could not hide out in agnosticism, but I did manage to spend a couple of years on the cusp of faith where I guess I had become a ”cafeteria atheist.”" No you where no you may have been a cafeteria objectivist where there is an ideology but not a cafeteria atheist, because there isn't a buffet to pick from.

“you must not give faith”

Since: Jul 12

Nottingham, UK

#2 Nov 21, 2013
"Now “religion as a crutch” is a rather odd crutch. Such a crutch is more like the staff that turned into a snake. The reality of sin and the possibility of Hell is not exactly comforting." The wishful thinking part of hell is that it is not for you but for everyone who ever wronged you...

"So if Catholicism is wish-fulfillment, you’re doing it wrong. Repentance rather sucks and slowly working on all those attachements to disordered things is a day-to-day struggle. Plus when your really start reading Jesus’ words you find that he could never have gotten a job on Madison Avenue. Sayings like “Pick up your cross daily”,“Be perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect”, and “The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you” are not exactly Gospel ad copy. If “Turn the other cheek” and blessing those that persecute you is wish fulfillment you need to get out more." The wishful thinking part of this is that you are a man constantly bombarded from all sides, like some moral action hero fighting the world you need a Lex Luthor to pretend you are superman.

"Despite this the joy of knowing Jesus and his love for me strengthens me. Yet I also know that I have many battles before me and most of them battles with my concupiscence – talk about friendly fire." Definitely on the lines of "moral action hero".

"There is also the reality where “religion is a crutch” rings true. When you are unable to walk by yourself a crutch is extremely useful. It isn’t wish-fulfillment to know that you are injured and need aid to help you walk straight. Really the problem in most of my life is that I thought I was walking straight when I was really hobbling along," I saw this coming, when atheists say that religion is a crutch they usually tag along side it the idea that it was never needed or has become now redundant, and/or that it has been relied upon so much it has in fact become unhealthy. You are playing a word game to twist the meaning of ideas, just so you know I don't take kindly to that such of thing...

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