'Serpent-Handling' West Virginia Pastor Dies From Snake Bite

May 30, 2012 | Posted by: Hedonist | Full story: abcnews.go.com

A "serpent-handling" West Virginia pastor died after his rattlesnake bit him during a church ritual, just as the man had apparently watched a snake kill his father years before.

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“saved From jesus”

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May 30, 2012
 
Hate to laugh, but..............

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Religionthebiglie wrote:
Hate to laugh, but..........
Poor snake!

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There you go-- 100% proof there's no god behind that stupidity either.

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God failed to save him. Like he fails at everything else.

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On the bright side, it was the con artist that got bit.

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May 31, 2012
 
The moral of this story is that reality bites! Get that through your thick skulls theists.

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May 31, 2012
 
But seriously though, this was someone's son / father / friend. What an idiot.

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This guy saw his father die from a snake bite when he was a kid.

Religious blindness is dangerous.
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Maybe the snake was an atheist.
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How could anyone be surprised by this. Snakes do not like to be handled. Venomous snakes can control the amount of venom they inject, and handling the snake is one way to insure it injects the maximum load of venom. Under the circumstances, this 'preacher's' actions were tantamount to suicide.

Any herpetologist could have predicted this outcome. Religion 0, science 1.
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Now, if we could only convince christians to enter lion's dens as proof of their faith...

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Interestingly, the fundies aren't touching this one.

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As a child, this kind of insanity was at the edges of our lives. We knew of it, and we knew people who participated in snake handling as proof of their faith. This preacher though, seems to have skipped one of the primary fail safes.

All the snakes were milked regularly,(and were milked again right before show time)most of the venom was claimed, to have been sent to places like A&M. Handlers had to be of certain body size, very small men, women, and all children were discouraged from joining in. In Texas, there was method to the madness, but they seem to have thrown caution to the winds in West Virginia.

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Religious stupidity knows no bounds.

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<snake handling Christian> "HOLY CRAP IT BIT ME!"

<fellow snake handling Christian> "it'll be okay, the loooord will protect you"

<bitten snake handling Christian> "SCREW THAT CALL A FRIKKEN AMBULANCE!"

Yeah, it's not funny, but...

They still do that here, btw. They'll advertise in the paper with an almost code like language just like they mentioned in the article.

It's by invitation AFTER, you call a number and confirm there is still room left etc... Very secretive. Each time I see one(it isn't an every day or week occurrence), I think to myself, "those crazy bastards".

I mentioned something about this a few months ago, and that it still happened here in this area in one of the threads and I recall a Christian absolutely disputing that kind of thing happened anymore.

At the time I wasn't aware that it was actually LEGAL to do in this state as long as it wasn't an open to the public event.

Crazy bastards.

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"Vanover said Wolford was then transported to a family member's home in Bluefield about 80 miles away to recover. But as the situation worsened, he was taken to a hospital where he later died."

Taken to the hospital??????? So much for faith!!!

I guess this guy is eligible for the Darwin award.

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Nontheist wrote:
<snake handling Christian> "HOLY CRAP IT BIT ME!"
<fellow snake handling Christian> "it'll be okay, the loooord will protect you"
<bitten snake handling Christian> "SCREW THAT CALL A FRIKKEN AMBULANCE!"
Yeah, it's not funny, but...
They still do that here, btw. They'll advertise in the paper with an almost code like language just like they mentioned in the article.
It's by invitation AFTER, you call a number and confirm there is still room left etc... Very secretive. Each time I see one(it isn't an every day or week occurrence), I think to myself, "those crazy bastards".
I mentioned something about this a few months ago, and that it still happened here in this area in one of the threads and I recall a Christian absolutely disputing that kind of thing happened anymore.
At the time I wasn't aware that it was actually LEGAL to do in this state as long as it wasn't an open to the public event.
Crazy bastards.
Yeah, it's legal.

But American Indians using peyote as part of their religious rituals isn't.

Freedom of religion only applies to all the various cults of Christianity.

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Hedonist wrote:
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Yeah, it's legal.
But American Indians using peyote as part of their religious rituals isn't.
Freedom of religion only applies to all the various cults of Christianity.
Yeah, if I had withheld medical treatment from my son for whatever reason and he suffered harm or death from it I would be seen, labeled and treated as a heinous, godless, and abusive bastard and subject to the full prosecution and penalty of whatever laws I'd broken.

A christian could do the same exact thing and ofttimes it's considered a special circumstance and the penalties then are minimums and leeway given because they were following their religion.

For instance.

Miracle vs. medicine: When faith puts care at risk

"At least 30 states allow some form of religious immunity for parents when children are harmed because of a lack of medical care."
http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2011/09/19/p...

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The man who died from this snake bite was ignorant of what the scripture is talking about.ďThese signs shall follow them that believe.Ē

The Apostle Paul was bitten by a deadly snake and shook it off into a fire. He didnít even get ill. But it was not a intentional on Paulís part.

Snake handling as part of a religious service is just plain stupid as evidence of this Pastor who died. If you remember Jesus was tempted by Satan to throw himself off a cliff. Jesus didnít jump because it was absurd to do such a thing.

My daughter was bit by a deadly snake when she was one year old. It bit her on the ankle and she went into a mild shock. We admitted her to the Emergency Room. A surgeon was called in to follow her case because he had lots of medical experience with snake bites.

No anti venom was given to her or any medications. Only a IV to make sure she didnít dehydrate. There was only mild swelling in her ankle. The fang marks were clearly visible in her ankle. After three days in the hospital she was dismissed with no problems.

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Eagle12, you need to watch this to understand why people are like that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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