I've Been a Bad Atheist

Jul 26, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Daily Kos

I have an evangelical urge. It's part of who I am. Because I like to spread whatever good news I feel I've come into possession of, I often find myself in conversations with people who think differently than me.

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Dak-Original

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Only if you are brain-damaged, would you call it such.
Praying, by definition, is begging some god/deity to **change** actual **reality** to suit your wishes, whatever that may be.
As such?
Praying is literally ego-driven insanity.
Such things can be useful in the interim to retain one's sanity so that one can "live" again! LOL!

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Such things can be useful in the interim to retain one's sanity so that one can "live" again! LOL!
No its not. Useful is deal with your bulsh*t instead of leaving your mental illness untreated until it festers into a religion that bothers and abuses other people.

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You are of the same frame as those creationist. I am not a creationist just because I Do believe in the notion of GOD! I do not claim that my belief is a fact like the followers of religions.
However, you cannot discount history where contribution, both positive and negative, was made religions. I have repeatedly stated that religions are nothing but mere inventions of humans. Where does "creation" lie feature in my posts, septic skeptic?
You again try to change the subject, but at the end of the day you cannot prove that god is real.

There is nothing positive in cults that lie to people. You know and thats why you're here - to lie about your cult and hide its motives..
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You..
... seem to repeat yourself?
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Dak-Original wrote:
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Such things can be useful in the interim to retain one's sanity so that one can "live" again! LOL!
The Magic of Believing by Claude M. Bristol
this book was written back in the 1940's the information it contains is worth reading.
Does not prove God exists...nor does it explain why some atheists seem so defensive?

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You are of the same frame as those creationist. I am not a creationist just because I Do believe in the notion of GOD! I do not claim that my belief is a fact like the followers of religions.

However, you cannot discount history where contribution, both positive and negative, was made religions. I have repeatedly stated that religions are nothing but mere inventions of humans. Where does "creation" lie feature in my posts, septic skeptic?
Historical ideas of god are simply another "argument by popular vote"-- a fallacy, in other words.

It is not valid, rationally.

In fact? Historically-speaking, most humans had the basic facts of the earth **wrong**. On any number of issues, too.

It's only been in the last few hundred years, that we have began to understand things as they actually are.

The idea of god? Is likely as wrong as the idea that the earth is the center of the universe, or that the sun revolves around the earth.

It's simply too fantastic.

What's worse? It feeds **directly** into the human ego.

Too conveniently, I might add.

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It is you who failed to read my post properly just because "usefulness" of belief creeps into posts. Where have I stated GOD exists?
Here: " http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T... ;

And it was quite evident that you did/do believe in god.

Therefore? You **do** claim god exists.

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Dak-Original wrote:
However, at the same time you wrong to say GOD does not exist.
Nope.... the **default** state of **any** claim, is that it's wrong-- UNLESS there is supporting FACTS.

The more amazing and incredible the claim?

The MORE FACTS you need to support it.

To date? NO facts of ANY worth in support of "god".

Therefore?

God isn't real.

Argument by popular vote isn't an argument.

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Now, tell me why did various, often distinct, cultures saw a need for belief in GOD?
Massively bloated Ego?

An intense desire to **continue** after death?

A realization that **everyone** dies--eventually-- and a stubborn refusal to ADMIT that fact?

That is THREE reasons to fabricate a magic JuJu Beast who grants quasi-immortality.

You want more? I got more-- NONE if which show a god is REAL, by the way.
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Here, we are talking about the fact of their need and not if their invention was proved fact (it is not).
??? I am clueless what you mean by this sentence, here.
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There maybe many reasons but the main one is "helplessness" in times when support is needed. "Power" of priests, etc came later.
Okay... it appears you agree-- that inventing god was a PURELY HUMAN construct.

And had **nothing** to do with reality.

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Such things can be useful in the interim to retain one's sanity so that one can "live" again! LOL!
Humans do lots of things to deal with stress and situations they have no control of.

Fabricating massively powerful super-bullies who will "get them one day" is a childhood dream of every kid who was beat-down by a bully.

The fabrication of god? Is simply that childhood vengeful super-bully writ large, in the language of poetry and myth.

You will note the commonality of **all** gods,**ever** invented by humans and worshiped: the gods are always **bullies** in at least a couple of ways--typically in **many** ways.

There are no exceptions to this observation-- the gods who are **not** portrayed as bullies?

Nobody worships-- nobody cares about **those** sorts of gods.

The phrase "god helps those who help themselves" is about a god who is **not** slavishly worshiped-- about a god who may as well not even be there at all. A Jeffersonian deity-- almost not worth the bother.

And atheist's god, if you will.
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No its not. Useful is deal with your bulsh*t instead of leaving your mental illness untreated until it festers into a religion that bothers and abuses other people.
Did you not notice in my posts. I do not subscribe to religion/s. Humanity is then subject to "mental illness" ever since human brain evolved to certain stage.
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You again try to change the subject, but at the end of the day you cannot prove that god is real.
There is nothing positive in cults that lie to people. You know and thats why you're here - to lie about your cult and hide its motives..
You are assuming things about me without an iota of evidence. Tellme what happened to you that you are so rigid about belief matters?
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LCN Llin wrote:
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The Magic of Believing by Claude M. Bristol
this book was written back in the 1940's the information it contains is worth reading.
Does not prove God exists...nor does it explain why some atheists seem so defensive?
Thanks. I will look it up!
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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Here: " http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T... ;
And it was quite evident that you did/do believe in god.
Therefore? You **do** claim god exists.
If you believe in something it does not necessarily mean it exists as a fact. Belief is not same as a fact.
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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Here: " http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T... ;
And it was quite evident that you did/do believe in god.
Therefore? You **do** claim god exists.
GOD may or may not exist. However, i believe that GOD cannot possibly be anything that human invented (ALL) religions have concocted.
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I am an atheist, but I have to say, God may be real. Last week I saw a beautiful woman at a club and said, "God, I would love to tap that!"

Three days later, I got my wish. Explain that!

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Dak-Original wrote:
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If you believe in something it does not necessarily mean it exists as a fact. Belief is not same as a fact.
Been saying that for years and years.

Once, everybody just **knew** that the sun went 'round the earth-- it didn't.

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GOD may or may not exist. However, i believe that GOD cannot possibly be anything that human invented (ALL) religions have concocted.
No god who gives a rat's behind about humans, exists.

That much is certain.

Too much god-preventable evil in the world.

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I am an atheist, but I have to say, God may be real. Last week I saw a beautiful woman at a club and said, "God, I would love to tap that!"

Three days later, I got my wish. Explain that!
Easy: you cashed in your paycheck, and paid her what she asked.

I hope it was worth it for you.

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