The God-Believing Atheist: a Q&a with...

The God-Believing Atheist: a Q&a with Frank Schaeffer

There are 3 comments on the Sojourners story from May 13, 2014, titled The God-Believing Atheist: a Q&a with Frank Schaeffer. In it, Sojourners reports that:

One phrase comes to mind, time and again, when I think of Frank Schaeffer: "THINK AGAIN."

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#1 May 13, 2014
He's not an atheist!

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#2 May 13, 2014
Schaeffer is certainly unusual. And confused. From the article:

"A: The "God" you refer to in your book is found in both creative and natural beauty. Is this different than pantheism?"

"A: Yes. Maybe we need a new category other than theism, atheism, or agnosticism that takes paradox and unknowing into account. I believe that life evolved by natural selection. I believe that evolutionary psychology explains away altruism and debunks love and that brain chemistry undermines my illusion of free will and personhood. I also believe that the spiritual reality hovering over, in, and through me calls me to love, trust, and hear the voice of my Creator. It seems to me that there is an off-stage and an on-stage quality to my existence. I live on-stage, but I sense another crew working off stage. Sometimes I hear their voices singing in a way thatÂ’s as eerily beautiful as the off-stage chorus in an opera."

Overall, the sense of the article is that he can easily let go of the God depicted in the Bible, but is unwilling to let go of Jesus or his sense that the voices of his subconscious come, not from him, but from an external source that he assumes is his creator. That's fine for him, I suppose, but he seems to think his vision should be universal.

That's just crazy.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#3 May 14, 2014
He talks like a somewhat more articulate jide oni. Both seem to embrace some kind of pantheism in practice, while shying away from that label. Unfortunately, being more articulate does not make the underlying ideas more valid, just better described.

It may just be a left-brain vs. right brain issue.To a right brain dominant artist, "feelings" that there's an off stage crew at work may seem a valid way of "knowing". To more left brained folks, like most of the atheists writing here, "feeling" and "knowing" are more akin to antonyms than synonyms.

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