Thinking

Ashford, UK

#22 Apr 16, 2013
Thanks for clicking so I didn't have to.

Cheers.
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>
Have a look at the http://veridican.org/ link in Br. Edward's post. Click on the forum tab. Its subtitle is "Ending Atheism--One Mind at a Time." He seems to have made a mission of converting us, so it's likely that we'll see more of this. He will find this an extremely hostile environment. I'll see to that.
Thinking

Ashford, UK

#23 Apr 16, 2013
My favourite on there was: "If this was part of your imaginary friend's plan then your imaginary friend is a c**t."

I see someone told him to give blood, as I did earlier. Problem is he'll probably bleed into a chalice and throw it at a pentagram.
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>
He also spammed it here:
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/general-fai...
Look at the reaction he got...
Lincoln

United States

#24 Apr 16, 2013
Prayer for the victims of the terrorism in Boston is appropriate unless there is a self appointed moderator.
Militant atheists tend to be a bit pushy which is why they "sometimes"seem rejected in polite society?
Thinking

Ashford, UK

#25 Apr 16, 2013
In the context of the original post? GFY.
Lincoln wrote:
Prayer for the victims of the terrorism in Boston is appropriate unless there is a self appointed moderator.
Militant atheists tend to be a bit pushy which is why they "sometimes"seem rejected in polite society?

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#26 Apr 16, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Prayer for the victims of the terrorism in Boston is appropriate unless there is a self appointed moderator.
Militant atheists tend to be a bit pushy which is why they "sometimes"seem rejected in polite society?
Besides the fact that this is an atheist forum, making prayer inappropriate at all times, there's that odious first line: "Today You had it in Your plan that many at the Boston Marathon should experience a terrorist attack."

Granted, he didn't go so far as to blame the victims as some evangelists have done, but to claim that the murder and mayhem is part of his imaginary god's plans is viciously insulting to the victims and their families. He heartily deserves the vehement responses that resulted.
Lincoln

United States

#27 Apr 16, 2013
Odd that a simple prayer would cause an overreaction
President Obama Prays as does Vice President Biden.
US was founded by people who pray ?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#28 Apr 16, 2013
Brother Edward wrote:
if war has come again, may we exact Your perfect wrath upon those who have harmed the innocent.
You are apparently a disturbed and violent individual and I suggest you seek professional psychiatric help. Please.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#29 Apr 16, 2013
No prayer from me

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#30 Apr 16, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Prayer for the victims of the terrorism in Boston is appropriate unless there is a self appointed moderator.
Militant atheists tend to be a bit pushy which is why they "sometimes"seem rejected in polite society?
nice try creationist troll. Why do religious cults always hijack public suffering to grow their cult base?

So immoral.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#31 Apr 16, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Prayer for the victims of the terrorism in Boston is appropriate unless there is a self appointed moderator.
Sure it is. Not in an atheism forum tho, unless you think it's appropriate to use public tragedies as an excuse to advertise.
Amused

Salem, MA

#32 Apr 16, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Odd that a simple prayer would cause an overreaction
President Obama Prays as does Vice President Biden.
US was founded by people who pray ?
Proselytizing in an atheist forum is deliberately provocative in exactly the same way ridiculing belief on a christian or muslim forum would be. If you do it, you should expect a reaction. No doubt the poster intended to provoke a reaction.

Whether the president prays is irrelevant to anything and anyone except his own conscience. Although, I suspect that if we had a commander in chief who didn't believe in eternal life after death, perhaps fewer servicemen would be placed in harm's way by a commander in chief who had a deeper appreciation of the depths of the sacrifice he was asking them to make.

Study of the founding fathers suggests that they were not unanimous in belief in the efficacy of prayer. Some were frankly atheist or agnositic, some were devout believers, and a fair number were deists. In any event, what is the relevance of what the founders believed? That was over 200 years ago. Human knowledge has made vast strides since then, and prevailing beliefs change with increased knowledge. It is called "progress". Even a scant fourscore and seven years after the founding of America, we had a President named Lincoln. You may have heard of him. Some of his views on religion:

"My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them."

"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession."
Lincoln

United States

#33 Apr 16, 2013
The President explained that he had been briefed by his Homeland Security team, who are continuing to monitor the situation as it unfolds, and had "directed the full resources of the federal government to help state and local authorities protect our people, increase security around the United States as necessary, and investigate what happened."

“The American people will say a prayer for Boston tonight,” he said.“And Michelle and I send our deepest thoughts and prayers to the families of the victims in the wake of this senseless loss.” President Obama
Amused

Salem, MA

#34 Apr 16, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
The President explained that he had been briefed by his Homeland Security team, who are continuing to monitor the situation as it unfolds, and had "directed the full resources of the federal government to help state and local authorities protect our people, increase security around the United States as necessary, and investigate what happened."
“The American people will say a prayer for Boston tonight,” he said.“And Michelle and I send our deepest thoughts and prayers to the families of the victims in the wake of this senseless loss.” President Obama
"What is to be, will be, and no prayers of ours can arrest the decree." Abraham Lincoln

Seems your man Abe had a much more astute view on the power of prayer than his latter day successor.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#35 Apr 16, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
The President explained that he had been briefed by his Homeland Security team, who are continuing to monitor the situation as it unfolds, and had "directed the full resources of the federal government to help state and local authorities protect our people, increase security around the United States as necessary, and investigate what happened."
“The American people will say a prayer for Boston tonight,” he said.“And Michelle and I send our deepest thoughts and prayers to the families of the victims in the wake of this senseless loss.” President Obama
its sad that you're such a coward that you can't address atheists directly.

Just shows us all how desperate you are to defend your cult in the face of damning facts about it.
Lincoln

United States

#36 Apr 16, 2013
“My concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right.”
Abraham Lincoln

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#37 Apr 16, 2013
If the poster that started this meant to be sincere in their post it would have not have been posted on an atheist forum in the way it is presented.

It would have been our deepest thoughts and sympathy’s go out to the people of Boston.
The poster intentionally meant to be facetious and rude to the point of insulting others at the expense of the people in Boston.

Just to get a rise out of people of reason that do not think and act as the poster does.

Very poor taste.
KJV

United States

#39 Apr 16, 2013
Mikko wrote:
No prayer from me
Good, no need bringing Satan in to this.
Lincoln

United States

#40 Apr 16, 2013
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Proselytizing in an atheist forum is deliberately provocative in exactly the same way ridiculing belief on a christian or muslim forum would be. If you do it, you should expect a reaction. No doubt the poster intended to provoke a reaction.
Whether the president prays is irrelevant to anything and anyone except his own conscience. Although, I suspect that if we had a commander in chief who didn't believe in eternal life after death, perhaps fewer servicemen would be placed in harm's way by a commander in chief who had a deeper appreciation of the depths of the sacrifice he was asking them to make.
Study of the founding fathers suggests that they were not unanimous in belief in the efficacy of prayer. Some were frankly atheist or agnositic, some were devout believers, and a fair number were deists. In any event, what is the relevance of what the founders believed? That was over 200 years ago. Human knowledge has made vast strides since then, and prevailing beliefs change with increased knowledge. It is called "progress". Even a scant fourscore and seven years after the founding of America, we had a President named Lincoln. You may have heard of him. Some of his views on religion:
"My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them."
"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession."
It is still
a free country.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#41 Apr 16, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Good, no need bringing Satan in to this.
Why would i pray to your bad guy invented by your religion ?

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#42 Apr 17, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
It is still
a free country.
True, but apropos of nothing.

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