How I feel about my atheism

How I feel about my atheism

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Mozart Link

Marion, IA

#1 May 21, 2014
I'm an atheist and even though I'm well aware of the fact that there is no afterlife and that we have to make the best of the life we have, this is how I feel anyway. Even though I'm an atheist, I truly wish I wasn't. I'd rather be the dumbest person on Earth who believes in a God and afterlife than be a smart young man who is logical and doesn't believe. I have chronic depression and I feel that since this is the only life of enjoyment you have and pleasure is the very reason we live, depression is what takes away this only life of enjoyment you have. Since this is the only life of enjoyment you have, I feel that this life should be fully enjoyed (perfect) in the sense of there being no depression to hold any of your pleasure back. Of course, you could ignore any problems in your life (even a problem in this case that takes away your very reason of living) and choose to focus on the bit of pleasure and other things you already have in this life.

But take, for example, someone who has severe chronic depression that lasts their entire life and they can't hardly enjoy anything, just for this person to know that there is an afterlife in which they can experience full joy for all eternity would be of severe benefit and would severely benefit me in my case because not only would they experience full joy for all eternity, but this would also make up for everything that they lost in this life. The last thing that such a person would ever want to hear would be "make the best of this life" when they hardly even have this ability at all. Even that ability itself has been almost completely taken away by depression as well.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#3 May 22, 2014
How do I feel about not being a theist? That is what you are asking, isn't it? I am not indoctrinated into any theism, so by default I am atheist*.

Well, not dropping 10% of my income into some priest/witch doctor's grubby paws is nice, as is sleeping late on Sundays. Then there is the biggies, no babies being mutilated in my world, no babies being thighed and never will a child be cooked and eaten because some god has commanded it. I gotta say I feel just fine about having no religion or god-myth. It works for me.

You do know that even the believers aren't really believers don't you?

*Not a theist,

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#4 May 22, 2014
Mozart Link wrote:
I'm an atheist and even though I'm well aware of the fact that there is no afterlife and that we have to make the best of the life we have, this is how I feel anyway. Even though I'm an atheist, I truly wish I wasn't. I'd rather be the dumbest person on Earth who believes in a God and afterlife than be a smart young man who is logical and doesn't believe. I have chronic depression and I feel that since this is the only life of enjoyment you have and pleasure is the very reason we live, depression is what takes away this only life of enjoyment you have. Since this is the only life of enjoyment you have, I feel that this life should be fully enjoyed (perfect) in the sense of there being no depression to hold any of your pleasure back. Of course, you could ignore any problems in your life (even a problem in this case that takes away your very reason of living) and choose to focus on the bit of pleasure and other things you already have in this life.
But take, for example, someone who has severe chronic depression that lasts their entire life and they can't hardly enjoy anything, just for this person to know that there is an afterlife in which they can experience full joy for all eternity would be of severe benefit and would severely benefit me in my case because not only would they experience full joy for all eternity, but this would also make up for everything that they lost in this life. The last thing that such a person would ever want to hear would be "make the best of this life" when they hardly even have this ability at all. Even that ability itself has been almost completely taken away by depression as well.
Pleasure is not the reason we live, challenge is. What we strive to accomplish is what makes it all worthwhile. A life of pleasure and easy enjoyment would be as strong a depressant as can be found. Life is about overcoming the obstacles.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#5 May 27, 2014
Life does seem to be easier if you have an all-powerful imaginary friend, whom, you have convinced yourself, has some ineffable plan for you. If you can rationalize all the failures of the imaginary friend to protect you from harm as part of that ineffable plan, and never consider the harm in your life to be evidence that perhaps your imaginary friend is non-existent, you can delude yourself into feeling secure. Perception can be as important as reality, and if you perceive yourself to be protected, it changes your whole perspective.

In the end, however, is it better to live a life based on a comforting fiction, or to face reality? Reality isn't so bad, except when you contrast it with the fiction. Even without a deity hovering over you, you can find love, have a family, contribute to society, live a good life. There are real satisfactions in that. Perhaps not as much as the imaginary afterlife in paradise, but real satisfactions, nevertheless.

The difference between a life based on reality and a life based on fictions is that in a reality based life, what you have is real. You don't have to worry about it all disappearing because you no longer believe.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#6 May 27, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Pleasure is not the reason we live, challenge is. What we strive to accomplish is what makes it all worthwhile. A life of pleasure and easy enjoyment would be as strong a depressant as can be found. Life is about overcoming the obstacles.
I don't think that we can ever answer the question of why we exist or why we live. I just think we live out of fear of the unknown. Like the expression, better the devil you know than one you don't know.

Since: May 11

Reality, USA

#7 May 28, 2014
How do I feel about being atheist?

I never really thought about how I feel about it, it is just who I am . I think it is silly to have blind faith in something that cannot be personally proven or reasonably argued as a fact. I have had people tell me a variety of things when they learn that I do not believe in their "god" - you are going to hell, I will pray for you, you're just not ready to believe yet etc.
What I find satisfying is the look on their faces when I start quoting their bible and asking them to answer questions I have about their "god" and bible to which they virtually always do not have an answer and respond with "you wouldn't be able to understand the relationship I have with jesus". A cornered christian is a sad christian.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#8 May 28, 2014
It does seem kind of weird to raise spiritual or existential questions about being an atheist. Those questions assume too much that cannot survive skeptical evaluation.

How do I feel about my state of rational skepticism that some call atheism? Relieved. No more straining to believe the unbelievable. No more pretense. It's so much easier to simply say, "I don't believe that" than do dance around the point, trying to avoid the choice between honesty and the possibility of hurt feelings. It leaves me free to pursue things that actually matter to me.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#9 Jun 6, 2014
I'm not interested in atheism or religion. I'm interested in what's true and what isn't.

I don't feel like MozartLink, quote,
"... Even though I'm an atheist, I truly wish I wasn't. I'd rather be the [dullest] person on Earth who believes in a God and afterlife than be a smart young man who is logical and doesn't believe..."
I wouldn't find life more meaningful if life was put here by a supernatural being and I certainly don't want to be dull. Humanity is only a few million yeas old and from that point of view we're at the start of a fascinating journey.

Religion = superstition
Thinking

Downham Market, UK

#10 Jun 6, 2014
Only a moron would disagree with you.
EdSed wrote:
I'm interested in what's true and what isn't.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#11 Jun 6, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Only a moron would disagree with you.
<quoted text>
More precisely: Only a theist would disagree with you.

Some morons are interested in discovering what is true and what is not, but just lack the tools to do so. Theists actually don't want to know any facts which might threaten their fantasy world.
Thinking

Downham Market, UK

#12 Jun 6, 2014
Only a moronic theist would disagree with you.

:)
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
More precisely: Only a theist would disagree with you.
Some morons are interested in discovering what is true and what is not, but just lack the tools to do so. Theists actually don't want to know any facts which might threaten their fantasy world.
Siro

Wiley Park, Australia

#13 Aug 9, 2014
Yeah great..........a grouphug session for losers.
Why dont you cry to Dr Phil.....

Since: Jun 14

Location hidden

#14 Aug 9, 2014
USN Atheist wrote:
How do I feel about being atheist?
I never really thought about how I feel about it, it is just who I am . I think it is silly to have blind faith in something that cannot be personally proven or reasonably argued as a fact. I have had people tell me a variety of things when they learn that I do not believe in their "god" - you are going to hell, I will pray for you, you're just not ready to believe yet etc.
What I find satisfying is the look on their faces when I start quoting their bible and asking them to answer questions I have about their "god" and bible to which they virtually always do not have an answer and respond with "you wouldn't be able to understand the relationship I have with jesus". A cornered christian is a sad christian.
So having blind faith in life from non life is better?
Now that is a leap of blind faith..

Since: May 11

Reality, USA

#15 Aug 10, 2014
_Bad Company wrote:
<quoted text>
So having blind faith in life from non life is better?
Now that is a leap of blind faith..
I do not have faith, blind or otherwise. What I do have is trust and that trust is based upon research and scientific findings as well as scientific hypothesis. As for something coming from nothing, I am pretty sure we will never really know how the universe was created but a "god" would not be my first choice of how it occurred...actually a "god" didn't even make the list.

Since: Jun 14

Location hidden

#16 Aug 11, 2014
USN Atheist wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not have faith, blind or otherwise. What I do have is trust and that trust is based upon research and scientific findings as well as scientific hypothesis. As for something coming from nothing, I am pretty sure we will never really know how the universe was created but a "god" would not be my first choice of how it occurred...actually a "god" didn't even make the list.
Funny but you're putting trust in science for truth, and trusting requires faith, so yeah, you have more faith than the most extreme religious person.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#17 Aug 11, 2014
How is your threatening of the rational world using black magic (snigger) going for you, siro/leon/liar/nonce, etc, etc?

Your posts in the link below is a great reminder of how blind belief caters for angry and violent fools like you.

http://www.topix.com/forum/who/occult/TNFCUVO...
Siro wrote:
Yeah great..........a grouphug session for losers.
Why dont you cry to Dr Phil.....
Siro

Sydney, Australia

#18 Aug 11, 2014
Thinking wrote:
How is your threatening of the rational world using black magic (snigger) going for you, siro/leon/liar/nonce, etc, etc?
Your posts in the link below is a great reminder of how blind belief caters for angry and violent fools like you.
http://www.topix.com/forum/who/occult/TNFCUVO...
<quoted text>
You say I promote black magic?
Where?
btw.....who is 'nonce'?
Thats you cuck
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#19 Aug 11, 2014
I'm no cuck but I see you accept being called a liar.

I'm feeling great so I guess your black magic spells don't work!

You muppet.
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
You say I promote black magic?
Where?
btw.....who is 'nonce'?
Thats you cuck
Siro

Sydney, Australia

#20 Aug 11, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I'm no cuck but I see you accept being called a liar.
I'm feeling great so I guess your black magic spells don't work!
You muppet.
<quoted text>
I dont do black magic and you would even be worth the effort to use it on.
Why bother?
Your miserable existance as chronically stupid cuck is far more of a punishment than anything I could do.
And yes, you are a cuck
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#21 Aug 11, 2014
My wife earns just as much money as me, whereas you seem much less resourceful and rather jealous.

You're just a black magic wombat...[Santana]

http://www.topix.com/forum/who/occult/TNFCUVO...
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
I dont do black magic and you would even be worth the effort to use it on.
Why bother?
Your miserable existance as chronically stupid cuck is far more of a punishment than anything I could do.
And yes, you are a cuck

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