Atheists such as Richard Dawkins want bibles in schools

There are 9 comments on the Examiner.com story from May 24, 2012, titled Atheists such as Richard Dawkins want bibles in schools. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

Atheists do, in fact, want bibles in schools. Some have noted that atheists know more about the bible than the average Christian.

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“above all else guard the heart”

Since: May 12

Little Rock, AR

#102 Jun 4, 2012
Maybe survival of the fittest would be no better off than religious corruption.

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#103 Jun 5, 2012
The creationist / fun die response is to call Science or Darwin's Theories an "Ism"

Darwinism, Sciencism - None of these are "isms" concepts

If I survive on Air, does that make me a BreatheIst?

Or because I am able to walk, and it is proven, I am suddenly a WalkIst, thinking about the world in my Walkist way of life??

I think not.

Science is a process and Darwin had a Theory called Evolution which turned out to be fact.

Facts aren't ISMs.

Facts don't contain ways of thinking, they contains nuggets of physical truth, reality.

Never accept science presented to you as an ism, or Evolution presented as an Ism,

They are processes for verifying reality and facts, not doctrines.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#104 Jun 5, 2012
Backbench wrote:
Maybe survival of the fittest would be no better off than religious corruption.
Actually, religion was part of that survival of the fittest, it is just now outdated and no longer needed. It was the belief in mythology that helped humanity avoid becoming lost in thought, due to our inherent curiosity, it also made social structures a bit stronger.

But we are no longer effected by natural selection much, we are, in fact, effected by our own intelligent and cosmetic selection, ironically. It's time we accept the fact that we are the gods we made up.

“above all else guard the heart”

Since: May 12

Little Rock, AR

#105 Jun 5, 2012
"We are the gods"

You are bound to be like God knowing good and bad.

Let us tear their bands apart and cast their cords away from us!

Hubris is a dangerous thing.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#106 Jun 5, 2012
Backbench wrote:
Maybe survival of the fittest would be no better off than religious corruption.
those are not the only ooptions. social darwinism does not necessarily follow from darwinian theory about evolution and adapting to survive. at least without a God notion, one is not obliged to think that the system of evolution - essentially through breeding before dying - sex and violence - is a good thing.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#107 Jun 5, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
The creationist / fun die response is to call Science or Darwin's Theories an "Ism"
Darwinism, Sciencism - None of these are "isms" concepts
If I survive on Air, does that make me a BreatheIst?
Or because I am able to walk, and it is proven, I am suddenly a WalkIst, thinking about the world in my Walkist way of life??
I think not.
Science is a process and Darwin had a Theory called Evolution which turned out to be fact.
Facts aren't ISMs.
Facts don't contain ways of thinking, they contains nuggets of physical truth, reality.
Never accept science presented to you as an ism, or Evolution presented as an Ism,
They are processes for verifying reality and facts, not doctrines.
well, I must say that I agree with you on much of this - especially on the negative parts - denouncing the false claiming about isms, as if everything is ideology.
I question whether science is a way to get to certain realities, or facts. It is a way to get provisional conclusions, substantiated by accumulated evidence that all seems to support it, and by the working of machinery in some cases, based on its conclusions.It is helpful to mankind if it works for some good purpose.(It can be harmful in the wrong hands, and used for a bad purpose - as in the case of weapons development.) And science is open to new evidence - which seems to me to imply that it has not really claimed that it has a fix on Reality with a capital R, but only what seems to be reality, what seem to be facts. I actually think that is one thing that makes science superior to any ideology - its lack of arrogant claims to know for sure, and its processes for constant reexamination and accumulation of socalled evidence.

“above all else guard the heart”

Since: May 12

Little Rock, AR

#108 Jun 5, 2012
Yes science can be a beneficial thing even a destructive thing because it is limited by the minds behind it. Lifelong careers and reputations can rest on research results, making it mistake prone and vulnerable to mischief. It has certainly been a mixed bag for science up until now.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#109 Jun 5, 2012
Backbench wrote:
"We are the gods"
You are bound to be like God knowing good and bad.
Let us tear their bands apart and cast their cords away from us!
Hubris is a dangerous thing.
Ever wonder why that was written in your scripture, that arrogance is wrong? It is one of the many elements designed to keep you a slave to the religious leaders, keeping you from questioning what you are told, that way you are mindless masses useful for things like wars and profit.

Claiming we are the gods we invented is not vanity, it is actually humility, it is stating that any god that could exist would be greater than anything any of us could possibly imagine. Your god is your preacher or the writers of your book.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#110 Jun 5, 2012
Backbench wrote:
Yes science can be a beneficial thing even a destructive thing because it is limited by the minds behind it. Lifelong careers and reputations can rest on research results, making it mistake prone and vulnerable to mischief. It has certainly been a mixed bag for science up until now.
It is not the science that is the danger, it is only the products made from scientific understanding that can be a danger. Just because we know how to split the atom, does not mean we had to make bombs with that. The use of the scientific knowledge hinges on the world views of those in power, not even the scientific minds that discover such things have control over these things.

Of world views, the modern atheist, I would not argue if you said the ancient atheists would be more dangerous, but I am speaking only on the modern atheist ... and the modern religious zealot. The modern atheist has no justification for using such destructive forces, considering we know that using such things will harm the species and the world itself, thanks to having scientific understanding of such dangers.

But the religious zealot today has changed very little, and are a very imminent danger, especially when we have the destructive capabilities we do now. This is why we need to put the zealots in check now more than ever. We have the knowledge and understanding in science to ultimately destroy the entire world, and I'm not talking about nuclear bombs. They can justify this by believing their god is commanding it, or to bring about the apocalypse, and they can quell their fears of mortality by deluding themselves into believing that they know there's an afterlife. This is dangerous to us all, and with the US zealots becoming louder and more violent these days we have to put a stop to them.

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