Regrets?<quoted text>You don't understand why Jesus was crucified. And I don't follow the Holy Bible. The Veridican canon consists of one book: The Veridican Gospel of Jesus Christ.
[QUOTE]You also overlook the fact that behavior has consequences both for the actor and for all the others in the environment. Behaving in moral ways increases the survival chances of both the individual and the social group. If you kill others, you create a society where it is more likely that you or one dear to you will be killed. If you steal, you increase the chance of your possessions being stolen. If you commit adultery, and that is acceptable, you'll never trust that your children are your own."
So you think morality is just consequences for actions. Fine. That's an atheist mentality, but that's not morality. Morality is knowing right from wrong, even when there is no consequence. So if you kidnap a child and murder it and don't get caught, or if the child is of no consequence to anyone, you're still in the wrong.
Hold on...I have to put on some Christian music...okay, go ahead, you were saying...
[QUOTE]Conversely, if you help others, you create an environment where you are more likely to be helped when in need. A society where helping the elderly is valued is also a society that recognizes that its members will in their time become elderly and in need of help.
By banding together in social groups where certain moral behavior is encouraged and immoral behavior is discouraged, we develop a consensus about what is moral and what is not moral. That consensus is not static. It was not that long ago that slavery was acceptable within the consensus. It was even more recently that drunken driving was seen as actual bad behavior that endangers others needlessly."
Slavery works. It would have kept working, as well. There was no evolutionary reason, no Biblical reason, no economic or political reason why it should ever have ended. It was not good for society in any way that it ended.
I think slavery is wrong. And so did many of my fellow Californians and Coloradans during the Civil War (I'm a transplant to Louisiana). So, why should it have ever ended? On what basis?
If morality is not based on authority, and only on negative evolutionary consequences, then I should be able to do anything that won't affect my genetic material being spread. Since I already have three grandsons, I could basically do anything I wanted, couldn't I?
[QUOTE]As such, morals are a useful, perhaps even necessary, thing which exists quite apart from your quaint notions of an invisible guy in the sky."
Audrey Assad just sang this verse on my iTunes (speaking of God):
[I]You live in a million places
You're fingerprints can be seen on a million faces[/I]
In two lines, she gives me every reason in the world to be good. In all your lines all I see is an atheist desperately trying to make the cold mechanism of evolution account for morality, too.
I've had a few.