'Science Guy' warns about creationism

Sep 27, 2012 | Posted by: Hedonist | Full story: thetimes-tribune.com

The man known to a generation of Americans as "The Science Guy" is condemning efforts by some Christian groups to cast doubts on evolution and lawmakers who want to bring the Bible into science classrooms.

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Sep 30, 2012
 
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<quoted text>You didn't have anything to say about this?

"Two, I am not so sure that christians are the bulk of the tax paying public. Maybe percentage wise, but maybe not dollars wise. If Mitt Romney is correct, and 47% do not pay any taxes, who are those 47%? 85% of the 47% must be christians! It certainly cannot be us Atheists!

Of the people who pay the most money in taxes, are they christians? Bill Gate, for example, paid more in one year than I will ever pay! Add Warren Buffett, and a few others, and your numbers may not be as high as you think."

If public school teachers are involved, I am sure there will be a court case in the near future.
Actually I think they are. Many rich people in Texas are Christians and taxpayers. I will look for a statistic and find out. Enjoy your party.

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The Science Guy will end up burning in hell along with all the other pagans and then they'll have some real global warming to report on.
Sorry man but I am a theist and even I believe that's nonsense. Don't judge people.
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The Science Guy will end up burning in hell along with all the other pagans and then they'll have some real global warming to report on.
Hell is a fictional location in your bronze age, goat herder FAIRY TALES. It isn't real. It does not exist.

It is NOT anything that anyone beyond a 4 year old mentality would be worried about.

Further, for as much LYING as you "fundamentalist christians" do, you should be more worried than the Pagans.
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Oct 1, 2012
 
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lying Creationist piece of sh*t that has called atheists molestors and pedophiles
Has he? If so then I expect you should expect an apology off him, yes?

Where's mine then, Skipster?
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Moment of silence is meant for individual prayer and respect for those who serve our country.
And is completely unnecessary during school time, especially when there have plenty of time during breaks and lunch to do whatever they want. I could understand if there was like some recent disaster or anniversary of 9-11 or something, otherwise it's just an excuse for some state-sponsored worship time. If it's silent and no one religion is obviously being practiced or endorsed by the teacher, then it may not be a big deal but it is a waste of time.

Then it could become a big deal when any atheist students figure out they have every right to talk all the way through it.
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That contradicts Christ in your opinion. I am for prayer in school, I feel since the majority of tax payers are theists, they should be given the opportunity to pray and get involved with Youth for Christ IF they choose.
Moment of silence or no, no-one is preventing them from doing that.
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But I also feel that this should not be forced on non believers and that is why it's a moment of silence, to pray to themselves.
Some people don't pray.(shrug) So no need for it in school time at all.
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Ok, a moment of silence right after the pledge is done in the class room. It's not a led prayer it's that of silence. Youth for Christ is an organization that meet during lunch in the library which is also legal. Nobody is forced to go.
Not a problem then, they can be silent there.

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No they are sponsors for Youth For Christ. The do get involved.
And that's the iffy part. IMHO, the teachers shouldn't do that during school hours, even on lunch or breaks, as they are being seen by the students as visibly endorsing a particular religious group. After school time is officially over they can of course do what they like in support of that group. Of course they could argue the case that technically it is on their own time, so until someone makes a court case out of it they can probably get away with it. Heck, a judge (especially in Texas) may even deem it legal.
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The Science Guy will end up burning in hell along with all the other pagans and then they'll have some real global warming to report on.
Why do you hate kittens?

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<quoted text>Not a problem then, they can be silent there.

:-)
But I still believe they should offer a class dealing with religion in general. I don't mean make the students go, but it's their option. I guess an elective?
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But I still believe they should offer a class dealing with religion in general. I don't mean make the students go, but it's their option. I guess an elective?
Only if it's a comparative religions class, taking an equal look at all religions. Problem is there is some Christian parents wouldn't be happy about that. I think it may have been Poly on here who mentioned one time that a parent once complained her kid was learning about ancient Greece.

I heard once somewhere a school tried to have an elective religious studies class, but it was shut down pretty soon when they found out it was basically nothing more than a fundie Christian class for evangelism.

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<quoted text>Only if it's a comparative religions class, taking an equal look at all religions. Problem is there is some Christian parents wouldn't be happy about that. I think it may have been Poly on here who mentioned one time that a parent once complained her kid was learning about ancient Greece.

I heard once somewhere a school tried to have an elective religious studies class, but it was shut down pretty soon when they found out it was basically nothing more than a fundie Christian class for evangelism.
Of course it has to be a comparative religions class. Wouldn't be right otherwise.

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But I still believe they should offer a class dealing with religion in general. I don't mean make the students go, but it's their option. I guess an elective?
They do have such a class. World Religions. They go into detail about all of the world's myths.

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No, no. The moment of silence is just that. No teacher lead prayer or student lead prayer. People have the choice to pray but to themselves. Atheists do not protect other religions so don't start with that nonsense. I'm not violent or would I hurt a fly. Don't assume me being violent either. Heck, I don't even preach. Hope you have a good day.
So why does it have to be during school time when they should be learning? You cannot justify a "moment of silence" anymore than you can an extra recess or lunch break.

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Of course it has to be a comparative religions class. Wouldn't be right otherwise.
Well, they already have such a class, so what is the problem?

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<quoted text>Well, they already have such a class, so what is the problem?
Not all schools have that class.

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<quoted text>So why does it have to be during school time when they should be learning? You cannot justify a "moment of silence" anymore than you can an extra recess or lunch break.
It's at the beginning after the pledge. It doesn't really cut in to the learning process.

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It's at the beginning after the pledge. It doesn't really cut in to the learning process.
Any time spent away from learning does cut into the the learning process, even the pledge. The pledge is redundant and archaic anyway, it's a brainwashing method imposed by people who fear their children becoming wise to the tyranny. The intent was in the right place when it was instituted, but we know better now, the effects of such a thing are negative, not positive.

Anyhow, the "moment of silence" exists already, it's that 10 minutes before the first bell.

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<quoted text>Any time spent away from learning does cut into the the learning process, even the pledge. The pledge is redundant and archaic anyway, it's a brainwashing method imposed by people who fear their children becoming wise to the tyranny. The intent was in the right place when it was instituted, but we know better now, the effects of such a thing are negative, not positive.

Anyhow, the "moment of silence" exists already, it's that 10 minutes before the first bell.
Yes it does but exists after the pledge.

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Sorry man but I am a theist and even I believe that's nonsense. Don't judge people.
Nope, you're a Creationist troll that failed to convince anyone that jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs and that the earth is a mere 6000 years old.

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