'Science Guy' warns about creationism

'Science Guy' warns about creationism

There are 171 comments on the thetimes-tribune.com story from Sep 27, 2012, titled 'Science Guy' warns about creationism. In it, thetimes-tribune.com reports that:

The man known to a generation of Americans as "The Science Guy" is condemning efforts by some Christian groups to cast doubts on evolution and lawmakers who want to bring the Bible into science classrooms.

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MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#41 Sep 28, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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Moment of silence is in the morning
Why can't the moment of silence be in the morning ... BEFORE they go to school ... or AFTER they get home?

Why is it necessary to have one DURING school?

Other than ADVERTISING how "christian" you are to everyone around you ... which, according to the Bible, you are NOT supposed to do anyways (Matthew 6:6 But you, when you pray, enter into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret shall reward you openly).

There are 24 hours in the day. The kids are in school 5-7 hours. Do the math. That leaves LOTS of time when kids can pray when they are NOT in school.

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

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#42 Sep 28, 2012
MIDutch wrote:
<quoted text>Why can't the moment of silence be in the morning ... BEFORE they go to school ... or AFTER they get home?

Why is it necessary to have one DURING school?

Other than ADVERTISING how "christian" you are to everyone around you ... which, according to the Bible, you are NOT supposed to do anyways (Matthew 6:6 But you, when you pray, enter into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret shall reward you openly).

There are 24 hours in the day. The kids are in school 5-7 hours. Do the math. That leaves LOTS of time when kids can pray when they are NOT in school.
Moment of silence is meant for individual prayer and respect for those who serve our country.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#43 Sep 29, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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Moment of silence is meant for individual prayer and respect for those who serve our country.
....and to publicly demonstrate how "Christian" and patriotic you are to everyone, since you're physically unable to do the same at home, in private.

“There are other issues.”

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#44 Sep 29, 2012
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>....and to publicly demonstrate how "Christian" and patriotic you are to everyone, since you're physically unable to do the same at home, in private.
No it's their method to have their freedom to pray if they like. It's not forced upon anyone.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#45 Sep 29, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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No it's their method to have their freedom to pray if they like. It's not forced upon anyone.
They have their freedom to pray. I'd even bet a lot do, just before each test.

Now tell me again why your particular religion gets to demand everybody acknowledge your dogma by disrupting the school day for even a minute when this is something they could just as easily have done during none school time?

Some need to force your beliefs on others or just ego?

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#46 Sep 29, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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No it's their method to have their freedom to pray if they like. It's not forced upon anyone.
I dont deny that.

But You must be able to recognize the "showmanship" quality that they exhibit when meeting by the flagpole, or other obvious location.
MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#47 Sep 29, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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Moment of silence is meant for individual prayer and respect for those who serve our country.
And that can't be done in the home or church?

BTW, everyone noticed you adding your little "respect for those who serve our country" qualifier.

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

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#48 Sep 29, 2012
MIDutch wrote:
<quoted text>And that can't be done in the home or church?

BTW, everyone noticed you adding your little "respect for those who serve our country" qualifier.
I didn't add that, that is the information people received during a meeting. Don't assume too much there, I am not in charge of this. I think it's ok and it doesn't require everyone to abide by this.

“There are other issues.”

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#49 Sep 29, 2012
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>I dont deny that.

But You must be able to recognize the "showmanship" quality that they exhibit when meeting by the flagpole, or other obvious location.
I believe the moment of silence is after the pledge in the classroom.

“There are other issues.”

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#50 Sep 29, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>They have their freedom to pray. I'd even bet a lot do, just before each test.

Now tell me again why your particular religion gets to demand everybody acknowledge your dogma by disrupting the school day for even a minute when this is something they could just as easily have done during none school time?

Some need to force your beliefs on others or just ego?
I have never or will ever push my beliefs on anyone. This is not my style. But it's done in the state of Texas and I believe others. It's not a loud prayer, they keep it to themselves in respect to other religions and/or atheism. This school is not all Christian based so you could only imagine what an issue it would be if it were only Christian prayer. Also I have been to many graduations both college and high schools and the also have prayers. No complaints have yet to be recorded. So it's not me forcing anything.
Skeptic

Thetford, UK

#51 Sep 29, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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I have never or will ever push my beliefs on anyone. This is not my style. But it's done in the state of Texas and I believe others. It's not a loud prayer, they keep it to themselves in respect to other religions and/or atheism. This school is not all Christian based so you could only imagine what an issue it would be if it were only Christian prayer. Also I have been to many graduations both college and high schools and the also have prayers. No complaints have yet to be recorded. So it's not me forcing anything.
lying Creationist piece of sh*t that has called atheists molestors and pedophiles

Since: Jun 07

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#52 Sep 29, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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I have never or will ever push my beliefs on anyone. This is not my style. But it's done in the state of Texas and I believe others. It's not a loud prayer, they keep it to themselves in respect to other religions and/or atheism. This school is not all Christian based so you could only imagine what an issue it would be if it were only Christian prayer. Also I have been to many graduations both college and high schools and the also have prayers. No complaints have yet to be recorded. So it's not me forcing anything.
You're a Creationist who failed to convince anyone in this forums that the earth is 6000 years old or that jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#53 Sep 29, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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I have never or will ever push my beliefs on anyone. This is not my style. But it's done in the state of Texas and I believe others. It's not a loud prayer, they keep it to themselves in respect to other religions and/or atheism. This school is not all Christian based so you could only imagine what an issue it would be if it were only Christian prayer. Also I have been to many graduations both college and high schools and the also have prayers. No complaints have yet to be recorded. So it's not me forcing anything.
Actually, your prayer is forcing your religion on other people, especially Muslims, pagans, and Jewish, to name only a few of the thousands of religions that are still practiced. You are attempting to minimize them. Us atheists are actually speaking out for them as well, since they're too scared of your violent tendencies to do so in the US. If you have to publicly parade your religion, then you have no faith.

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

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#54 Sep 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, your prayer is forcing your religion on other people, especially Muslims, pagans, and Jewish, to name only a few of the thousands of religions that are still practiced. You are attempting to minimize them. Us atheists are actually speaking out for them as well, since they're too scared of your violent tendencies to do so in the US. If you have to publicly parade your religion, then you have no faith.
No, no. The moment of silence is just that. No teacher lead prayer or student lead prayer. People have the choice to pray but to themselves. Atheists do not protect other religions so don't start with that nonsense. I'm not violent or would I hurt a fly. Don't assume me being violent either. Heck, I don't even preach. Hope you have a good day.

“There are other issues.”

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#55 Sep 29, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>You're a Creationist who failed to convince anyone in this forums that the earth is 6000 years old or that jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs.
Void.

“There are other issues.”

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#56 Sep 29, 2012
Skeptic wrote:
<quoted text>lying Creationist piece of sh*t that has called atheists molestors and pedophiles
Void

Since: Jun 07

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#57 Sep 29, 2012
Educated What wrote:
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Void
You need to switch to a belief system that you won't singly handedly destroy by expressing your retarded opinions about it, Creationist.

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

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#58 Sep 29, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>You need to switch to a belief system that you won't singly handedly destroy by expressing your retarded opinions about it, Creationist.
Void

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#60 Sep 29, 2012
Void is the new bwahahah I hear. Now we have two indicators that your ego is toast.

“God=Registered Sex Offender!”

Since: Jul 12

Flower Mound, TX

#61 Sep 29, 2012
Moment of silence is hogwash. Children should be taught to recite the following verses from the TRUE bible, the PROTESTANT bible, the bible that excludes Maccabbees I and II, unlike the heretical Cathylick bible...All of these verses condone rape and we all know that life begins at rape. This is legitimate, pro-life, rape:

1. So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.

2. Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them,'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes."

3. As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

4. If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

5."When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."

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