ronone

Pittsburgh, PA

#44 Dec 10, 2012
youtube.com/watch... … No person exist God he's buried graved,,lifeless no person exist or breath's.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

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#45 Dec 27, 2012
JordanUTT wrote:
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Actually quite the opposite, I don't just "read" the Bible. I study it.......
That sounds to me, just like someone who says 'I don't just "read" Dr Seuss. I study it.'

Nuff said ....

“There is no Truth in Faith”

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#46 Dec 27, 2012
spidersandsnakes wrote:
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YHWH meanz he who causes to become or create.
if you take that meaning and you look at his creations his signiture is their.
He created humans to produce other humans etc.
God is a spirit he has no beginning or end
Humans have a beginning which is atheist can't understand a Creator but its only because we were created.
Everything in the universe is made of Energy.

Energy has never been created nor destroyed.

No creator has ever been required.

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#47 Dec 27, 2012
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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Everything in the universe is made of Energy.
Energy has never been created nor destroyed.
No creator has ever been required.
Energy exists in time.

Infinite past time is impossible.

So time began to exist.

So energy began to exist.

Sorry, you're reasoning is utterly ridiculous.

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#48 Dec 28, 2012
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Energy exists in time.
Infinite past time is impossible.
So time began to exist.
So energy began to exist.
Sorry, you're reasoning is utterly ridiculous.
This is all coming from an ignorant lying Creationist who believes that :

1. The earth is 6000 years old (based on no evidence whatsoever)
2. Fossils aren't really "real"
3. That lying about atheists and scientists somehow makes creationism more true.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

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#49 Dec 28, 2012
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Energy exists in time.
Infinite past time is impossible.
So time began to exist.
So energy began to exist.
Sorry, you're reasoning is utterly ridiculous.
Prove that energy does not exist outside time. I'll wait right here....

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#50 Jan 3, 2013
So obviously Jesus and his magical fish created err designed everything right half wit?

Lmfao!
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Energy exists in time.
Infinite past time is impossible.
So time began to exist.
So energy began to exist.
Sorry, you're reasoning is utterly ridiculous.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#51 Jan 3, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>...Infinite past time is impossible....
Prove it.

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#52 Jan 8, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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God isn't real. It doesn't matter how much you read or think, if you had a millions years to live, it still wouldn't make god real.
Lots of people become religious because they want it to be real they want to feel like there's an answer or some magic out there.
There is, but its found in the study of reality, science, logic, not in fueling the philosophical and meaningless ramblings and allegory from people who existed before humans knew how to make microprocessors.
We're a bag of chemicals, the religious experience is merely a feeling that we dress up. And there are plenty of cults waiting to sign you up and brainwash you towards their lies.
I'm sorry you've wasted your life trying to find meaning in religion. If more people were straight talking in this work, we would be using our precious time much more wisely instead of chasing after the documented liars who invent and continue to sell religion.
Religion? The book of revelation brings out the total destruction off all false religion.
thats the only prophecy that hasnt been fulfilled yet.

This world is owned by satan and no matter what good people try to do it will always have some sort of corruption linked with it

science, religion, politics all have extreme dark sides to them.
They are all responsible for the death of millions possibly bllions of people one way or the other.

matt 7 a good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, neither can a rotten tree produce fine fruit.19Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into the fire.20Really, then, by their fruits &#8203;YOU&#8203; will recognize those [men].

Because these organizations are producing bad things they will not succeed. they have all lied about many things and killed innocent people.

eccleciates 11 ;9 Rejoice, young man, in your youth, and let your heart do you good in the days of your young manhood, and walk in the ways of your heart and in the things seen by your eyes. But know that on account of all these the [true] God will bring you into judgment."

everyone can do what they want but Jehovah the God of the bible is the only one that can judge them not humans..

The God of the bible cannot lie .

he loves all humans and he wants to protect them but we all free will.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#53 Jan 8, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
The God of the bible cannot lie .
Before the mythical "crucifiCtion", the Jesus either lied or told the truth.

I say both:

"Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing." -John 18:20 KJV

"I spake openly to the world"<--The Jesus words. Remember those.
"and in secret have I said nothing."<--The Jesus words. Remember those.

Truth? Allegedly the words of a sinless being. Remember that pesky FALSE WITNESS thing. The Jesus said what the Jesus did, and spoke of the Jesus conduct. Or is there more?

Speaking to the Jesus disciples:"To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given." - Matt 13:11

"but to them it has not been given."<--The Jesus words. A lie or truth?

It appears that not only did the Jesus speak a falsehood , but also that the Jesus was secretive and selective in the things the Jesus did speak. The above verse does not represent speaking "openly to the world".

The Jesus: "To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, so that they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand." -Mark 4:11. A secret? A lie? Both. And truth, too.

This is a hoot; The Jesus god has to hide the "salvation" of man from the masses(humanity)behind parables and secrets. No decoder ring?

Disciples get the skinny up front.

"With many such parables he spoke the word to the multitudes as they were able to hear it, he did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to his own disciples he explained everything." -Mark 4:33-34 A secret? A lie? Both. And truth, too.

Parables are told to some people. Others are told the exact meaning. That's secretive.

"in secret have I said nothing" <--A lie.

"To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, so that they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand." -Mark 4:11

"To you has been given the secret" <--Secret. "hear but not understand"<--Secretiv e.

"in secret have I said nothing" <--A lie.

To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given." - John 13:11

"To you it has been given to know the mysteries"<--Secret.
"but to them it has not been given"<--Secretive.

"in secret have I said nothing" <--A lie.

Jesus answered him, "I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing" John 18:20

"but privately to his own disciples he explained everything"<--Last portion Mark 4:34

"and in secret have I said nothing"<--Last portion John 18:20

Lies. Truth.

Both.

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#54 Jan 8, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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Before the mythical "crucifiCtion", the Jesus either lied or told the truth.
I say both:
"Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing." -John 18:20 KJV
"I spake openly to the world"<--The Jesus words. Remember those.
"and in secret h<--The Jesus words. Remember those.
Truth? Allegedly the words of a sinless being. Remember that pesky FALSE WITNESS thing. The Jesus said what the Jesus did, and spoke of the Jesus conduct. Or is there more?
Speaking to the Jesus disciples:"To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given." - Matt 13:11
"but to them it has not been given."<--The Jesus words. A lie or truth?
It appears that not only did the Jesus speak a falsehood , but also that the Jesus was secretive and selective in the things the Jesus did speak. The above verse does not represent speaking "openly to the world".
The Jesus: "To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, so that they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand." -Mark 4:11. A secret? A lie? Both. And truth, too.
This is a hoot; The Jesus god has to hide the "salvation" of man from the masses(humanity)behind parables and secrets. No decoder ring?
Disciples get the skinny up front.
"With many such parables he spoke the word to the multitudes as they were able to hear it, he did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to his own disciples he explained everything." -Mark 4:33-34 A secret? A lie? Both. And truth, too.
Parables are told to some people. Others are told the exact meaning. That's secretive.
"in secret have I said nothing" <--A lie.
"To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, so that they may inhave I said nothingow the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given." - John 13:11
"To you it has been given to know the mysteries"<--Secret.
"but to them it has not been given"<--Secretive.
"in secret have I said nothin John 18:20
"but privately to his own disciples he explained everything"<--Last portion Mark 4:34
"and in secret have I said nothing"<--Last portion John 18:20
Lies. Truth.
Both.
Thats one the many confusions,the king james bible was translated so that he could understand it i believe in the 15 th century
21 century english is different.
mathew mark luke john were all written about jesus and what he did
for example if me and you witnessed a murder. we would be saying the thing but they way we word it would be different.
So the disciples came up and said to him:
Matthew 13:11“Why is it you speak to them by the use of illustrations?”11In reply he said:“To &#8203;YOU&#8203; it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the kingdom of the heavens, but to those people it is not granted.12For whoever has, more will be given him and he will be made to abound; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him.13This is why I speak to them by the use of illustrations, because, looking, they look in vain, and hearing, they hear in vain, neither do they get the sense of it;14and toward them the prophecy of Isaiah is having fulfillment, which says,‘By hearing, &#8203;YOU&#8203; will hear but by no means get the sense of it; and, looking, &#8203;YOU&#8203; will look but by no means see.15For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes; that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back, and I heal them.’
Jesus was explaining to them in illustrations so that they could understand him. He also was telling them about how ost of th jews were not going to listen to them.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#55 Jan 8, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats one the many confusions,the king james bible was translated so that he could understand it i believe in the 15 th century
21 century english is different.
mathew mark luke john were all written about jesus and what he did
for example if me and you witnessed a murder. we would be saying the thing but they way we word it would be different.
So the disciples came up and said to him:
Matthew 13:11“Why is it you speak to them by the use of illustrations?”11In reply he said:“To &#8203;YOU&#8203; it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the kingdom of the heavens, but to those people it is not granted.12For whoever has, more will be given him and he will be made to abound; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him.13This is why I speak to them by the use of illustrations, because, looking, they look in vain, and hearing, they hear in vain, neither do they get the sense of it;14and toward them the prophecy of Isaiah is having fulfillment, which says,‘By hearing, &#8203;YOU&#8203; will hear but by no means get the sense of it; and, looking, &#8203;YOU&#8203; will look but by no means see.15For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes; that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back, and I heal them.’
Jesus was explaining to them in illustrations so that they could understand him. He also was telling them about how ost of th jews were not going to listen to them.
Secrets. Lies. Deception.

That's the truth.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#56 Jan 8, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
Before the mythical "crucifiCtion", the Jesus either lied or told the truth.
I say both:
"Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing." -John 18:20 KJV
"I spake openly to the world"<--The Jesus words. Remember those.
"and in secret have I said nothing."<--The Jesus words. Remember those.
Truth? Allegedly the words of a sinless being. Remember that pesky FALSE WITNESS thing. The Jesus said what the Jesus did, and spoke of the Jesus conduct. Or is there more?
Speaking to the Jesus disciples:"To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given." - Matt 13:11
"but to them it has not been given."<--The Jesus words. A lie or truth?
It appears that not only did the Jesus speak a falsehood , but also that the Jesus was secretive and selective in the things the Jesus did speak. The above verse does not represent speaking "openly to the world".
The Jesus: "To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, so that they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand." -Mark 4:11. A secret? A lie? Both. And truth, too.
This is a hoot; The Jesus god has to hide the "salvation" of man from the masses(humanity)behind parables and secrets. No decoder ring?
Disciples get the skinny up front.
"With many such parables he spoke the word to the multitudes as they were able to hear it, he did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to his own disciples he explained everything." -Mark 4:33-34 A secret? A lie? Both. And truth, too.
Parables are told to some people. Others are told the exact meaning. That's secretive.
"in secret have I said nothing" <--A lie.
"To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, so that they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand." -Mark 4:11
"To you has been given the secret" <--Secret. "hear but not understand"<--Secretiv e.
"in secret have I said nothing" <--A lie.
To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given." - John 13:11
"To you it has been given to know the mysteries"<--Secret.
"but to them it has not been given"<--Secretive.
"in secret have I said nothing" <--A lie.
Jesus answered him, "I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing" John 18:20
"but privately to his own disciples he explained everything"<--Last portion Mark 4:34
"and in secret have I said nothing"<--Last portion John 18:20
Lies. Truth.
Both.
mark 4;11 to 13
And he proceeded to say to them:“To &#8203;YOU&#8203; the sacred secret of the kingdom of God has been given, but to those outside all things occur in illustrations,12in order that, though looking, they may look and yet not see, and, though hearing, they may hear and yet not get the sense of it, nor ever turn back and forgiveness be given them.

again mark coneys the same thing, if you read the whole accounts he was telling the deciples the secret which is Gods kingdom, and how they are going to tell the jews but they are not going to listen..

but they are suppose preach anyway even after his death.
jesus always said that the truth will be diltuted by false prophets
but when he comes bac he will begin to expose them

jesus came to promote Gods kingdom to which jesus is going to be king of. which fullfils this prophecy
genesis 3 :15 And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.”
Satans seed bruised Jesus in the heel, but jesus is going to bruise satan in the head on armeghedon when jesus ends satans rulership over humans.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#57 Jan 8, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
mark 4;11 to 13
And he proceeded to say to them:“To &#8203;YOU&#8203; the sacred secret of the kingdom of God has been given, but to those outside all things occur in illustrations,12in order that, though looking, they may look and yet not see, and, though hearing, they may hear and yet not get the sense of it, nor ever turn back and forgiveness be given them.
again mark coneys the same thing, if you read the whole accounts he was telling the deciples the secret which is Gods kingdom, and how they are going to tell the jews but they are not going to listen..
but they are suppose preach anyway even after his death.
jesus always said that the truth will be diltuted by false prophets
but when he comes bac he will begin to expose them
jesus came to promote Gods kingdom to which jesus is going to be king of. which fullfils this prophecy
genesis 3 :15 And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.”
Satans seed bruised Jesus in the heel, but jesus is going to bruise satan in the head on armeghedon when jesus ends satans rulership over humans.
"OH"

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#58 Jan 13, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
mark 4;11 to 13
And he proceeded to say to them:“To &#8203;YOU&#8203; the sacred secret of the kingdom of God has been given, but to those outside all things occur in illustrations,12in order that, though looking, they may look and yet not see, and, though hearing, they may hear and yet not get the sense of it, nor ever turn back and forgiveness be given them.
again mark coneys the same thing, if you read the whole accounts he was telling the deciples the secret which is Gods kingdom, and how they are going to tell the jews but they are not going to listen..
but they are suppose preach anyway even after his death.
jesus always said that the truth will be diltuted by false prophets
but when he comes bac he will begin to expose them
jesus came to promote Gods kingdom to which jesus is going to be king of. which fullfils this prophecy
genesis 3 :15 And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.”
Satans seed bruised Jesus in the heel, but jesus is going to bruise satan in the head on armeghedon when jesus ends satans rulership over humans.
Sh*t up for a second. You have a serious mental illness. Talk to a psychiatrist - there's no proof of god so you are either lying or hallucinating. See a doctor immediately.
LCNLin

United States

#59 Nov 23, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
This is all coming from an ignorant lying Creationist who believes that :
1. The earth is 6000 years old (based on no evidence whatsoever)
2. Fossils aren't really "real"
3. That lying about atheists and scientists somehow makes creationism more true.
Seems the fallacy of the straw-man.

A straw man, also known in the UK as an Aunt Sally is a common type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.

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Nehwon

#60 Nov 23, 2013
spidersandsnakes wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats one the many confusions,the king james bible was translated so that he could understand it i believe in the 15 th century
21 century english is different.
mathew mark luke john were all written about jesus and what he did
for example if me and you witnessed a murder. we would be saying the thing but they way we word it would be different.
So the disciples came up and said to him:
Matthew 13:11“Why is it you speak to them by the use of illustrations?”11In reply he said:“To &#8203;YOU&#8203; it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the kingdom of the heavens, but to those people it is not granted.12For whoever has, more will be given him and he will be made to abound; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him.13This is why I speak to them by the use of illustrations, because, looking, they look in vain, and hearing, they hear in vain, neither do they get the sense of it;14and toward them the prophecy of Isaiah is having fulfillment, which says,‘By hearing, &#8203;YOU&#8203; will hear but by no means get the sense of it; and, looking, &#8203;YOU&#8203; will look but by no means see.15For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes; that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back, and I heal them.’
Jesus was explaining to them in illustrations so that they could understand him. He also was telling them about how ost of th jews were not going to listen to them.
Perhaps you could explain to me why the King James Bible (1604 -1611) is an authoritative source of translating the ancient languages?

Especially in light of the Dead Seas Scrolls discovery (1946 - 1956).

And more interesting, the Catholic Church was the gatekeeper of the Bible for 1000 years.

But you accept the King James version, why?
LCNLin

United States

#61 Nov 24, 2013
greymouser wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you could explain to me why the King James Bible (1604 -1611) is an authoritative source of translating the ancient languages?
Especially in light of the Dead Seas Scrolls discovery (1946 - 1956).
And more interesting, the Catholic Church was the gatekeeper of the Bible for 1000 years.
But you accept the King James version, why?
Not accepted

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#62 Nov 25, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Energy exists in time.
Infinite past time is impossible.
So time began to exist.
So energy began to exist.
Sorry, you're reasoning is utterly ridiculous.
Prove that infinite past time is impossible bucky ... I'll wait ...

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#63 Nov 26, 2013
Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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