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#744 Mar 31, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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You are a die-hard stubborn ignoramus.
Exactly what you are

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#746 Apr 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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Acquisition of new knowledge is a gradual process. With time, you will know the truth .
How many lifetimes does one need to delude ones self? The gods that didn't exist centuries ago, still don't and the ones still claimed, have yet to be proven. In fact in the entire history of mankind not a single god has been proven. Not one speck of evidence ever. Why does the Arabic god and the Aboriginal god both fail to show themselves? There have been literally thousands of gods created by man* and not one ever has left a trail. Neither will yours.

Do you think a god who is insistent on checking penises and scrotums for defects could be a real god? Wouldn't the all knowing god already know?

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#747 Apr 1, 2014
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>There was no inconsistency in my arguments I suppose.If it was then you should have pointed it out.I am not judging myself or ever posed myself as a genius.
The omnipotent paradox is an age old logical argument and it is not my original brainchild.It's not about being original or unoriginal;it's about being how logical and true your statements are.
A true god would be indisputable. Bigger than it's creators, all gods so far have been smaller.

Since: Jan 14

United States

#748 Apr 1, 2014
There is God, and God is everything - all-powerful, all-knowing, present everywhere, good, just and unchanging.
Any concept of God, that excludes Its all-inclusive nature, will run foul of logic.
If there is God, nothing should exist outside of It. If this is taken as a good premise for a possible existence of God, then our arguments in this regard must revolve round this underlying basic assumption.
If God be the totality of all that exist, the macrocosm of the collectivity of individual microcosms, then every facet of this God must be the cumulative aggregate of all of existence. i.e. all conceivable powers, knowledge, matter and force, space in time, good, justice etc. all in a self-perpetuating continuum.
With this general over-view of God in mind, we are afforded a concept of a God that is all-embracing and above which nothing else can rise.
Taking one of Its characteristics, i.e. all-powerful, for example, we would consider the omnipotence of God as the totality of all conceivable powers that be,

Since: Jan 14

United States

#749 Apr 1, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>How many lifetimes does one need to delude ones self? The gods that didn't exist centuries ago, still don't and the ones still claimed, have yet to be proven. In fact in the entire history of mankind not a single god has been proven. Not one speck of evidence ever. Why does the Arabic god and the Aboriginal god both fail to show themselves? There have been literally thousands of gods created by man* and not one ever has left a trail. Neither will yours.
Do you think a god who is insistent on checking penises and scrotums for defects could be a real god? Wouldn't the all knowing god already know?
As I have already stated, you will soon accept the God I am presenting to you,

Since: Jan 14

United States

#750 Apr 1, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>A true god would be indisputable. Bigger than it's creators, all gods so far have been smaller.
Yes, until now.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#751 Apr 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
..blah, blah....Any concept of God, that excludes Its all-inclusive nature, will run foul of logic...blah..blah....
Lol!

Religion = superstition
Theology = mythology

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#752 Apr 1, 2014
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Lol!
Religion = superstition
Theology = mythology
Heretofore

Since: Mar 12

Danda, India

#753 Apr 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
There is God, and God is everything - all-powerful, all-knowing, present everywhere, good, just and unchanging.
Any concept of God, that excludes Its all-inclusive nature, will run foul of logic.
If there is God, nothing should exist outside of It. If this is taken as a good premise for a possible existence of God, then our arguments in this regard must revolve round this underlying basic assumption.
If God be the totality of all that exist, the macrocosm of the collectivity of individual microcosms, then every facet of this God must be the cumulative aggregate of all of existence. i.e. all conceivable powers, knowledge, matter and force, space in time, good, justice etc. all in a self-perpetuating continuum.
With this general over-view of God in mind, we are afforded a concept of a God that is all-embracing and above which nothing else can rise.
Taking one of Its characteristics, i.e. all-powerful, for example, we would consider the omnipotence of God as the totality of all conceivable powers that be,
There is an alternative word for your God and it is called universe.We call it universe and so does every one else who isn't Pantheist.And universe is scientifically the best word for your God.If you see universe as God then it is just your belief.We don't have to believe in your delusions unless you justify your arguments.There is no reason whatsoever why should we call universe as "God".
You're a pantheist and you're not the only one. But you did deny sometime ago that you're not a pantheist,didn't you?

Since: Mar 12

Danda, India

#754 Apr 1, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>A true god would be indisputable. Bigger than it's creators, all gods so far have been smaller.
And even such true god exists,he wouldn't be omnipotent.

Since: Jan 14

United States

#755 Apr 1, 2014
fadu singh wrote:
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There is an alternative word for your God and it is called universe.We call it universe and so does every one else who isn't Pantheist.And universe is scientifically the best word for your God.If you see universe as God then it is just your belief.We don't have to believe in your delusions unless you justify your arguments.There is no reason whatsoever why should we call universe as "God".
You're a pantheist and you're not the only one. But you did deny sometime ago that you're not a pantheist,didn't you?
I said I am more than a pantheist. Pantheism is a part of me, just like any other sane philosophy is.

Since: Jan 14

United States

#756 Apr 1, 2014
fadu singh wrote:
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And even such true god exists,he wouldn't be omnipotent.
The omnipotence of God should be seen as the sum total of all conceivable powers.

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#757 Apr 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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I said I am more than a pantheist. Pantheism is a part of me, just like any other sane philosophy is.
What makes you "more than" a Pantheist?

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#758 Apr 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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The omnipotence of God should be seen as the sum total of all conceivable powers.
Omnipotence paradox is conceivable and was conceivable to thousands of philosophers who have died.And by the virtue of its validity,your God cannot be omnipotent.

Since: Jan 14

United States

#759 Apr 1, 2014
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>What makes you "more than" a Pantheist?
i.e. Pantheistic school of thought, among others, is well tolerated by me.

Since: Jan 14

United States

#760 Apr 1, 2014
fadu singh wrote:
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Omnipotence paradox is conceivable and was conceivable to thousands of philosophers who have died.And by the virtue of its validity,your God cannot be omnipotent.
The erstwhile omnipotence paradox, now stands dissolved.

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#761 Apr 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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i.e. Pantheistic school of thought, among others, is well tolerated by me.
So you have tolerance for Pantheism. How does that makes you more than a Pantheist?Do you even know what you're babbling about?
On top of that you haven't explained as to why universe should be treated as God?

Since: Jan 14

United States

#762 Apr 1, 2014
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>So you have tolerance for Pantheism. How does that makes you more than a Pantheist?Do you even know what you're babbling about?
On top of that you haven't explained as to why universe should be treated as God?
Universe is a near approximation of God, such as Nature, Mind, Intelligence etc.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#763 Apr 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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The erstwhile omnipotence paradox, now stands dissolved.
What, just because you say so? Arguments from authority violate the rules of logic even when those cited are truly authoritative. How much more so when someone with no demonstrable expertise in anything issues such pronouncements as "The erstwhile omnipotence paradox, now stands dissolved."?

It doesn't even make sense. "Erstwhile?" Really? "Dissolved"? How? By whom? Its logic is sound, and it can only be disproven with even better logic, while you have shown no facility with logic at all. Every attempt at logic that I've seen in your posts contains at least on glaring non sequitur.

You cannot dismiss a well-know and widely accepted logical conclusion with a simple pronouncement. As as been the case with you so far, it requires work that you are unwilling and probably incapable of doing.

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#764 Apr 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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Universe is a near approximation of God, such as Nature, Mind, Intelligence etc.
You're moving in a circle.You're giving a definition of your version of 'God'.This is not a reason to believe in your God.
Give me a reason why universe should be called 'God'.

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