Atheism Destroyed At Last! - The Deba...

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#309 Mar 9, 2014
Mikko wrote:
Religious people still trying to make atheism into a religious belief and failing
Atheistic non-belief is as good as shrouded ignorance.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#310 Mar 9, 2014
MrDesoto1 wrote:
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Just more nonsense, because you obviously don't know what Atheism means.
What is Atheism?- a religion or a cult?

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#311 Mar 9, 2014
Just Think wrote:
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Whackadoodle dogma - obstinately holding on to a fixedly pre-misconceived idea, in spite of the fact that every single person with whom you are talking has pointed out that your ideas are gibberish.
Bravo, whackadoodle!
I expeted a good challenge, but chicken-pie instead.

“Reason's Greetings!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#312 Mar 9, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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Atheistic non-belief is as good as shrouded ignorance.
jide oni wrote:
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What is Atheism?- a religion or a cult?
Just more nonsense from a theist without a clue.

Since: Apr 09

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#313 Mar 9, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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I expeted a good challenge, but chicken-pie instead.
Honestly, at this point, I think you're challenged just trying to tie your shoes...

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#315 Mar 10, 2014
MrDesoto1 wrote:
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Just more nonsense from a theist without a clue.
World of wisdom makes no sense to senseless mediocre.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#316 Mar 10, 2014
Just Think wrote:
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Honestly, at this point, I think you're challenged just trying to tie your shoes...

Don't some of the thirtysome laws exist? I dare you, let's start from there.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#317 Mar 10, 2014
The natural Law of Economy of Life (Death), for example, is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, good, just, inviolable, immutable and have no exceptions.
Where all our man-made laws manifest imperfect attributes as against the perfect attributes of the above-mentioned natural law, and the imperfect laws are the necessary products of our imperfect intelligence, then the above perfect law couldn't have proceeded from any source other than from a perfect intelligence.
And where the existence of this perfect intelligence is denied as an indisputable source of the natural laws, then the laws themselves should be considered as a divine body worthy of our adoration.
Now, Topix Atheists, I think the above postulate is respectable enough as an acceptable premise for honest discussions.
Come on! What's your take?

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#318 Mar 10, 2014
jide oni wrote:
The natural Law of Economy of Life (Death), for example, is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, good, just, inviolable, immutable and have no exceptions.
Where all our man-made laws manifest imperfect attributes as against the perfect attributes of the above-mentioned natural law, and the imperfect laws are the necessary products of our imperfect intelligence, then the above perfect law couldn't have proceeded from any source other than from a perfect intelligence.
And where the existence of this perfect intelligence is denied as an indisputable source of the natural laws, then the laws themselves should be considered as a divine body worthy of our adoration.
Now, Topix Atheists, I think the above postulate is respectable enough as an acceptable premise for honest discussions.
Come on! What's your take?
Here is what you did

1. You stated what you think is a perfect law. You didn't explain what it was or why it was perfect...you just stated an opinion.

2. You then stated that man-made laws are not perfect because man is not perfect. You did not explain why man could not, himself, come up with a perfect law. You did not explain why this was impossible 100% of the time.

3. You then stated that because of #2 (an opinion)#1 (also an opinion) must have been created by a perfect being. You didn't say why - you simply stated it as a fact. Worst science methodology ever.

4. You then stated that even if one doesn't believe in the perfect being (who you never proved existed in the first place) one must believe the law is perfect (because...um...you said it was perfect.)

You lose.

Since: Jul 09

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#319 Mar 10, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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Do you acknowledge the existence of the natural laws?
not by your definition

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#320 Mar 10, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Atheistic dogma - obstinately holding on to a fixedly pre-misconceived idea, in spite of every reasonable evidence to the contrary.
you have provided zero REASONABLE evidence

you carp continuously about your paranoia and your dreams.

fear and hope do not build gods

to build a christian god one requires ignorance.

I am sure you could build one of those

Since: Jul 09

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#321 Mar 10, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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What is Atheism?- a religion or a cult?
ask a christian theist

It is a christian word

My understanding is that it means ; "not one of us"

xtians are so xenophobic

Since: Jul 09

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#322 Mar 10, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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I expeted a good challenge, but chicken-pie instead.
you presented a hodgepodge you should be impressed that the responders were able to produce a pie

Since: Jul 09

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#323 Mar 10, 2014
jide oni wrote:
The natural Law of Economy of Life (Death), for example, is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, good, just, inviolable, immutable and have no exceptions.
Where all our man-made laws manifest imperfect attributes as against the perfect attributes of the above-mentioned natural law, and the imperfect laws are the necessary products of our imperfect intelligence, then the above perfect law couldn't have proceeded from any source other than from a perfect intelligence.
And where the existence of this perfect intelligence is denied as an indisputable source of the natural laws, then the laws themselves should be considered as a divine body worthy of our adoration.
Now, Topix Atheists, I think the above postulate is respectable enough as an acceptable premise for honest discussions.
Come on! What's your take?
I do not find you honest

I cannot respect you sufficiently to hold a conversation.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#324 Mar 10, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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Atheistic dogma?
Pay attention to the first and seventh words of the following posting. Then try to actually think-it-through before responding.
>>>> "My ability to reason has prevented me from the having the inclination to blindly accept your inane word salads and unsupported contentions as anything more than pure crap. Your claimed laws are anything but. Still even if they were what you claim them to be, that would not in any fashion, prove a god." <<<.

That which does not exist, cannot contain dogma. Atheism is the dearth of, the lack of, a negative of theism. There is none there, not a bit of any theism. Now in your limited world, things that do not exist, might make imprints on who you are, but it doesn't work that way for us. That we are not imbued with a theism, does not impart a dogma to us.

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#325 Mar 10, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Atheistic dogma - obstinately holding on to a fixedly pre-misconceived idea, in spite of every reasonable evidence to the contrary.
So we are really wrong for not bowing to the Thuggee goddess, or kowtowing to the Vodun preistess?

You are essentially condemning us as wrong for not embracing a theism. Doing so with any type of theism, would make us no longer atheist.

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#326 Mar 10, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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What is Atheism?- a religion or a cult?
Neither, it is the lack of theism.

Like being bald means there is simply a lack of any hair color involved. We are free of all theisms.

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#327 Mar 10, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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I expeted a good challenge, but chicken-pie instead.
Chicken pie is a much better reward, than you have earned or deserved. Offering up the foolishness that you have, does not invite challenge, but instead it invites others to mock or ridicule your crap-pile proof of god.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#328 Mar 10, 2014
Just a quick reminder: until we see regular nonbelieving contributors to this forum agreeing with jide oni and subscribing to his system of belief, his contention that atheism is "destroyed" is more than a little premature. So far, he has managed to convince no one. He seeks desperately for a following and can't even attain a modicum of respect for his disjointed ramblings. But soon he will depart, undoubtedly claiming victory.

We've seen that before, haven't we?

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#329 Mar 11, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Chicken pie is a much better reward, than you have earned or deserved. Offering up the foolishness that you have, does not invite challenge, but instead it invites others to mock or ridicule your crap-pile proof of god.
I never knew that Atheists are believers' bed-fellows.

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