Atheism Destroyed At Last! - The Deba...

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#226 Mar 3, 2014
NightSerf,
The Law of Sowing and Reaping operates exactly like the literal sowing and reaping, in the sense that when a seed is sown, not the exact single seed is harvested but multitudinous juicy fruits.
And so, when a seed is sown, many things serve as inputs to the eventual reaping of the supposedly disproportionately colossal harvest.
Such things as, the seed itself, the fertile land, the clearing of the bush, making of ridges, periodic wetting of the soil, regular weeding of the farm, the long interval of time required for waiting on the part of the sower, pains-taking protective efforts of the sower against pests and destructive animals, the personal efforts required for the harvesting itself etc. should be taken into account when applying the Law of Sowing to real life experiences.
On the strength of the above, NightSerf is hereby enjoined to avoid falling into the error of seed-from-seed harvest, but commensurate-manifold-proceeds -from-seed harvest.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#227 Mar 3, 2014
jide oni wrote:
NightSerf,
The Law of Sowing and Reaping operates exactly like the literal sowing and reaping, in the sense that when a seed is sown, not the exact single seed is harvested but multitudinous juicy fruits.
And so, when a seed is sown, many things serve as inputs to the eventual reaping of the supposedly disproportionately colossal harvest.
Such things as, the seed itself, the fertile land, the clearing of the bush, making of ridges, periodic wetting of the soil, regular weeding of the farm, the long interval of time required for waiting on the part of the sower, pains-taking protective efforts of the sower against pests and destructive animals, the personal efforts required for the harvesting itself etc. should be taken into account when applying the Law of Sowing to real life experiences.
On the strength of the above, NightSerf is hereby enjoined to avoid falling into the error of seed-from-seed harvest, but commensurate-manifold-proceeds -from-seed harvest.
You've stated this "law," but utterly failed to make a case for its existence outside of the field of agriculture. As a result, the only ration response to your post is, "So what?"

Given your absolute failure to make any intellectual headway in this thread, where to find the unmitigated gall to advise me in any way whatsoever?

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#229 Mar 3, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>
You've stated this "law," but utterly failed to make a case for its existence outside of the field of agriculture. As a result, the only ration response to your post is, "So what?"
Given your absolute failure to make any intellectual headway in this thread, where to find the unmitigated gall to advise me in any way whatsoever?
But your earlier post on sowing was centered on agriculture,while mine wasn't.

Since: Jan 14

South Africa

#230 Mar 3, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>
You've stated this "law," but utterly failed to make a case for its existence outside of the field of agriculture. As a result, the only ration response to your post is, "So what?"
Given your absolute failure to make any intellectual headway in this thread, where to find the unmitigated gall to advise me in any way whatsoever?
Human experiences are filled with instances of karmic deserts with just a sprinkling of those that appear to beat human expectations.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#231 Mar 3, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text>
But your earlier post on sowing was centered on agriculture,while mine wasn't.
Both were. The details of any metaphor are rooted in its context--otherwise it would not be a metaphor at all.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#232 Mar 3, 2014
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
"A world without war is an impossibility...." which to be a good reason to get rid of religion, not create more.
"as long as progress can only come after a war " what a load of drivel.
"Even where war is permanently absent, existence will turn drab, dull and be devoid of life, such that the absence of war will translate to another brand of war..."
In that case I am prepared to be bored, bring it on.
"....war of no war."
Yep, it is official you are a fruit loop.
reminds me of a poster -- trying to remember the name

employs meaningless language, argument from incredulity

incarnation based

young university type

quite insane

(I hasten to admit that this may be simply a troll)

Since: Jan 14

South Africa

#233 Mar 3, 2014
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
reminds me of a poster -- trying to remember the name
employs meaningless language, argument from incredulity
incarnation based
young university type
quite insane
(I hasten to admit that this may be simply a troll)
And you will never remember!

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#234 Mar 3, 2014
Folks,
There is no natural law whose operation is intended to punish, not even the Law of Economy of Life (Death) which man has ever tagged his enemy No1.
The Law of Karma, from all its ramifications, should not be seen as an instrument of punishment or reward;
Rather, the Law of Karma is essentially divinely fashioned for progressive ascent towards perfection.
Without this law, self-improvement and aspiration to greater heights will be impossible.
In a situation where every human is doing whatever pleases him without any commensurate repercussion, there will be no means by which he can learn from his mistakes, and attain self-realization and self-fulfillment.
The justice of God will become jungle justice if the Law of Karma should be suspended, even just for a brief spell.
www.lulu.com/spotlight/karma867

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#235 Mar 4, 2014
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
reminds me of a poster -- trying to remember the name
employs meaningless language, argument from incredulity
incarnation based
young university type
quite insane
(I hasten to admit that this may be simply a troll)
Knights Templar? Something very nearly that? An absolute insane twit.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#236 Mar 4, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Knights Templar? Something very nearly that? An absolute insane twit.
What an anti-climax!

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#237 Mar 4, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Folks,
There is no natural law whose operation is intended to punish, not even the Law of Economy of Life (Death) which man has ever tagged his enemy No1.
The Law of Karma, from all its ramifications, should not be seen as an instrument of punishment or reward;
Rather, the Law of Karma is essentially divinely fashioned for progressive ascent towards perfection.
Without this law, self-improvement and aspiration to greater heights will be impossible.
In a situation where every human is doing whatever pleases him without any commensurate repercussion, there will be no means by which he can learn from his mistakes, and attain self-realization and self-fulfillment.
The justice of God will become jungle justice if the Law of Karma should be suspended, even just for a brief spell.
www.lulu.com/spotlight/karma867
Still trying to sell the same old articles of faith to the skeptics who consistently reject them as unsupported opinion? When will you learn. I've written time and time again that statements of faith are insufficient to win skeptics over to anything. As long as you preach instead of making a case based on evidence and logic, you will continue to fail.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#238 Mar 4, 2014
jide oni, it occurs to me that I may have mistaken your purpose in initiating and perpetuating the two discussions that center on your assertions that atheism is dead that that a new universal religion is now appearing. I assumed that you wanted to win the core Topix atheists over to that religion, and, based on that, I've tried to help you understand the nature of that undertaking. Now I wonder whether you are pursuing another agenda altogether. I could speculate on what that might be, but it would be simpler if you could be honest and straightforward enough to tell us so that none of us waste time chasing phantoms.

Exactly what do you hope to accomplish on the Atheist forum?

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#239 Mar 4, 2014
NightSerf,
I quite appreciate your insight, foresight and hindsight.
Right from age 13, I have been out of religious dogmas; I kept searching and searching for the philosophers' stone without success; I joined the Rosicrucian Order (AMORC) and I rose to the position of a lodge-master in 1988, yet I had to pull out because they pray and acknowledge the mastership of Jesus.
I have ever since been toeing the line of the Atheists until the fact of the natural laws dawned on me and I became aware that the over-flogged Universal Intelligence must have been the rightful fountain of those impersonal, hard, natural, just, universal principles that control all of existence.
Knowing fully well that it is the Atheists, Agnostics and other variants of Skeptics that are reasonable enough to put my new-found concept to thorough test, I've therefore chosen the Atheism Forum as my major platform.
Don't be surprised that my true models have been Voltaire, Colonel Ingersol and a few pepper-and-salt Atheists and Agnostics.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#240 Mar 4, 2014
Personally, I didn't like the idea of being identified with any religious tag, so we took off under the name: 'Philosophers' Order'. but later I found that the only way to wipe out all the faith-based superstitious, primitive and deistic religions is to rename the movement as 'Universal Religion'. which is expected to cut across all the existing world philosophies.

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#241 Mar 4, 2014
One can understand the seeming inconsistent justice of God, where some people appear not to be deriving commensurate benefits from their labor.
Those people who have, in their past lives, made life tough for others, now in their present life will appear to be sombrely quiet, easy-going, and pushed to and fro by fate without being afforded any chance of putting up any resistance.
And the God of Karmic Reincarnation will now cast them with the direct opposite personality traits;
Such that a severely hot-tempered person will now come as a very cool-tempered soul; an extrovert will now reincarnate as an introvert;
A spendthrift of yore will now become a die-hard miser; a former prostitute incarnate will now reincarnate as a nun;
A strong body built for arduous physical exertion in a past life will now come into life with a fragile body that will know no physical toil in his present life;
All of whom are now to compensate for the 'excess' or 'lack' that characterized their previous earth life life-styles.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#242 Mar 5, 2014
jide oni wrote:
NightSerf,
I quite appreciate your insight, foresight and hindsight.
Right from age 13, I have been out of religious dogmas; I kept searching and searching for the philosophers' stone without success; I joined the Rosicrucian Order (AMORC) and I rose to the position of a lodge-master in 1988, yet I had to pull out because they pray and acknowledge the mastership of Jesus.
I have ever since been toeing the line of the Atheists until the fact of the natural laws dawned on me and I became aware that the over-flogged Universal Intelligence must have been the rightful fountain of those impersonal, hard, natural, just, universal principles that control all of existence.
Knowing fully well that it is the Atheists, Agnostics and other variants of Skeptics that are reasonable enough to put my new-found concept to thorough test, I've therefore chosen the Atheism Forum as my major platform.
Don't be surprised that my true models have been Voltaire, Colonel Ingersol and a few pepper-and-salt Atheists and Agnostics.
Aha! You had a Revelation! You envision yourself as a Prophet for the New Day! You are going to lead humanity out of the darkness and into the Light! Woopee!!!

Woopie doo. Woopie doo-doo.

As I wrote right at the beginning, we've seen this many times before. Whether it's another atheist or someone like you, you are doomed to failure. True skeptics give up the need to lead or be led intellectually or spiritually along with the reliance on faith or belief as a means or understanding or discovery.

Tou are like all other would-be prophets--delusional.

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#243 Mar 5, 2014
NightSerf,
I am neither a prophet nor do I operate on belief.
I don't see any darkness in the world. The world and everything therein keep evolving higher and higher with such a periodicity, that at each point of periodic transition, the uninformed Atheists may adduce a randomness of existence.
But note that the kind of dry logic that does no one any good, is not powerful enough to embrace the totality of the infinite, but a mixture of sane logic, nuomenal experience, phenomenal observation and intuitive conviction of the earthly man.
May it be known that the universality of the feeder concepts back of this inchoate philosophy of life, accurately earns it the name 'Universal Religion'.
Be conscious of the fact that dogmatic inflexibility is the trademark of belief, while reason naturally changes side when confronted by a more reasonable reason. And so, rather than presumptuously going ahead to smother a loftier thought, we should all, without reservation, carry shoulder-high the light-shedding wisdom.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#244 Mar 5, 2014
jide oni wrote:
NightSerf,
I am neither a prophet nor do I operate on belief.
I don't see any darkness in the world. The world and everything therein keep evolving higher and higher with such a periodicity, that at each point of periodic transition, the uninformed Atheists may adduce a randomness of existence.
But note that the kind of dry logic that does no one any good, is not powerful enough to embrace the totality of the infinite, but a mixture of sane logic, nuomenal experience, phenomenal observation and intuitive conviction of the earthly man.
May it be known that the universality of the feeder concepts back of this inchoate philosophy of life, accurately earns it the name 'Universal Religion'.
Be conscious of the fact that dogmatic inflexibility is the trademark of belief, while reason naturally changes side when confronted by a more reasonable reason. And so, rather than presumptuously going ahead to smother a loftier thought, we should all, without reservation, carry shoulder-high the light-shedding wisdom.
You almost drowned your word salad with metaphorical dressing.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#245 Mar 5, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Folks,
There is no natural law whose operation is intended to punish, not even the Law of Economy of Life (Death) which man has ever tagged his enemy No1.
The Law of Karma, from all its ramifications, should not be seen as an instrument of punishment or reward;
Rather, the Law of Karma is essentially divinely fashioned for progressive ascent towards perfection.
Without this law, self-improvement and aspiration to greater heights will be impossible.
In a situation where every human is doing whatever pleases him without any commensurate repercussion, there will be no means by which he can learn from his mistakes, and attain self-realization and self-fulfillment.
The justice of God will become jungle justice if the Law of Karma should be suspended, even just for a brief spell.
www.lulu.com/spotlight/BREAKING THE RULES
crass commercialism, self promotion of sales

thus you see the morals of this person, who cares not from whom he steals.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#246 Mar 5, 2014
jide oni wrote:
NightSerf,
I quite appreciate your insight, foresight and hindsight.
Right from age 13, I have been out of religious dogmas; I kept searching and searching for the philosophers' stone without success; I joined the Rosicrucian Order (AMORC) and I rose to the position of a lodge-master in 1988, yet I had to pull out because they pray and acknowledge the mastership of Jesus.
I have ever since been toeing the line of the Atheists until the fact of the natural laws dawned on me and I became aware that the over-flogged Universal Intelligence must have been the rightful fountain of those impersonal, hard, natural, just, universal principles that control all of existence.
Knowing fully well that it is the Atheists, Agnostics and other variants of Skeptics that are reasonable enough to put my new-found concept to thorough test, I've therefore chosen the Atheism Forum as my major platform.
Don't be surprised that my true models have been Voltaire, Colonel Ingersol and a few pepper-and-salt Atheists and Agnostics.
he is here to work out the apologetic

to sharpen those lies on the flint that is atheism.(Rational Skepticism)

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