Atheism Destroyed At Last! - The Deba...

“Sweden more democratic thanUSA”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#184 Feb 28, 2014
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank goodness you've destroyed us.
Just DESTROYED us!
LOL
*LOL*

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#185 Feb 28, 2014
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank goodness you've destroyed us.
Just DESTROYED us!
LOL


Relax. Your resurrection process is under-way.

When reconstruction is concluded, you won't remain the same again.

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#186 Feb 28, 2014
I never imagined that Atheism could be destroyed just like that!
Lord have mercy!

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#187 Feb 28, 2014
jide oni wrote:
I never imagined that Atheism could be destroyed just like that!
Lord have mercy!
Shhh, troll....shhhhh.

It's okay. We all know you're embarrassed. Let it go.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#188 Feb 28, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text>
Relax. Your resurrection process is under-way.
When reconstruction is concluded, you won't remain the same again.
Good grief, its like something Yogi Berra would write if he were really, really stoned...

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#190 Mar 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
The Law of Economy of Life(Death) is a natural law that shares the same absolute attributes with God, and this awareness should make man face life squarely, and leave death alone and let it please itself.
Since each is getting out of this earth life at his appointed time, then why the fuss over the exit of others?
And it is in the effect that death and God are the only two things man claims absolute knowledge of, when in actuality these are the only two things whose actual nature man is absolutely ignorant of.
But for death taking its toll on man's life, population explosion would have made life on earth 'unliveable'.
But for the fact of death, man would never have thought of heaven and hell.
Yes, death will strike at the exact time the purpose for living has been exhausted.
So, when man reaches the peak of his total means, death will wade in to prevent over-stretching of self in whatever form.
Death is a stranger to man, nobody has ever known it alive.
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Okay, you're following a pattern here. You have not even defined this supposed law of economy, much less shown that your conception of it actually exists. I've tole you what you have to do to substantiate your claim that atheism is moribund: you have to convince the skeptics here to let go of their doubts about God. As long as atheists are increasing both in numbers and as a percentage of the adult population, atheism is not even ailing.

Your ideas about these natural laws are enough for you to convince yourself and those who already agree with you, but you are not winning anyone else over.

No QED.

“Sweden more democratic thanUSA”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#191 Mar 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
I never imagined that Atheism could be destroyed just like that!
Lord have mercy!
Troll is failing as usual

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#192 Mar 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Just Think,
Come on, don't you fancy the Atheists' new God I've just succeeded in selling to you?
Not the personal, humanlike, sky-bound, worshipable, creator God of the believers, but the Universe, Nature, the superior Intelligence, behimd those phenomena that man's intelligence cannot totally grasp.
It is a God that is everywhere and nowhere, i.e. as your concept of it is, so is it, i.e. the believers''yes-god' concept is God, while the non-believers''no-god' concept is God too.
If there is God, the Atheists will be the first to be welcomed into the bosom of the Lord, because they prize God so highly that they refuse to identify it with any limiting evil or imperfections.
Whereas, once it could be demonstrated that God is good, and evil has no place in this world, Atheists may reconsider their 'no-god' stance.
Atheists the world over, may I seek your permission to redefine Atheism as a 'no-bad-god' concept, so that the ignorant believers might realize that you are even Godlier than they are.
No. You do not get to redefine atheism for your own convenience.

There's a long story that many evangelists like to tell which ends with their telling an unbeliever, "I don't believe in that god, either." You have to understand, atheists and skeptics may find the God of the Bible or some other god objectionable, but that's not why they doubt its existence. They doubt because all of the deities--the concept of deities in the first place--is so ridiculously improbable as to approach absolute impossibility.

That said, not all atheists are the same. Each comes to a state of nonbelief along one of very many paths, with a huge range of experience with religions from none at all to complete immersion, and with attitudes that range from absolute hatred to loving disappointment upon realizing that, as much as they love their former coreligionists and enjoyed the faith they once shared, it is simply not true.

So we atheists don't even get to define atheism for each other. Why do you think you should get to define it for all of us?

As for your "Atheist' new Go0d"? No sale.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#193 Mar 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Having thoroughly reviewed all my posts, I found Atheism's dead body already decomposing; while its fans, supposed to be down-cast lamenting their loss, are seen here in the forum, indiscreetly fighting a lost battle.
Behold the decomposing right leg of the deceased, i.e. evil!
There is no evil in the entire scheme of things. What the Atheists misconceive as evil is what I conceive to be activity phase of the good that permeates the entire universe. This phase is otherwise known as painful good, while the respite, passive phase, the pleasurable good.
Problem-solving that brings about 'soluprogress', do you call that evil?
Clearing of the bush and all other steps to be taken in farming engagement before eventual harvest, do you call that evil?
Labor-pains that accompany childbirth, do you call that evil?
Swotting to pass an examination, do you call that evil?
No, no, no, not in the least, challenges - physical, emotional, financial, social etc.- are not evil, but the activity good side of the divide.
That is not at all what you are seeing. Atheism is simply the lack of thesm. Educate yourself, look it up.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#194 Mar 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Just Think,
Come on, don't you fancy the Atheists' new God I've just succeeded in selling to you?
Not the personal, humanlike, sky-bound, worshipable, creator God of the believers, but the Universe, Nature, the superior Intelligence, behimd those phenomena that man's intelligence cannot totally grasp.
It is a God that is everywhere and nowhere, i.e. as your concept of it is, so is it, i.e. the believers''yes-god' concept is God, while the non-believers''no-god' concept is God too.
If there is God, the Atheists will be the first to be welcomed into the bosom of the Lord, because they prize God so highly that they refuse to identify it with any limiting evil or imperfections.
Whereas, once it could be demonstrated that God is good, and evil has no place in this world, Atheists may reconsider their 'no-god' stance.
Atheists the world over, may I seek your permission to redefine Atheism as a 'no-bad-god' concept, so that the ignorant believers might realize that you are even Godlier than they are.
Atheism is a lack of belief in deities. Therefore, there is no atheist god.

This really isn't that complicated.

It is a bit bizarre, however, these things you think you've successfully accomplished despite all evidence.

Fascinating.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#195 Mar 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Just Think,
Come on, don't you fancy the Atheists' new God I've just succeeded in selling to you?
Not the personal, humanlike, sky-bound, worshipable, creator God of the believers, but the Universe, Nature, the superior Intelligence, behimd those phenomena that man's intelligence cannot totally grasp.
It is a God that is everywhere and nowhere, i.e. as your concept of it is, so is it, i.e. the believers''yes-god' concept is God, while the non-believers''no-god' concept is God too.
If there is God, the Atheists will be the first to be welcomed into the bosom of the Lord, because they prize God so highly that they refuse to identify it with any limiting evil or imperfections.
Whereas, once it could be demonstrated that God is good, and evil has no place in this world, Atheists may reconsider their 'no-god' stance.
Atheists the world over, may I seek your permission to redefine Atheism as a 'no-bad-god' concept, so that the ignorant believers might realize that you are even Godlier than they are.
Succeeded? LOL! Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha I think not. And since this is based on reality, you might want to just skip past it, but atheism is actually a no-theism type thingy. It ain't there and that is what all that constitutes atheism.

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#196 Mar 1, 2014
Reason Personified,
Atheism, simply a lack of Theism, a lack of imperfect Theism or a lack of perfect Theism?

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#197 Mar 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Reason Personified,
Atheism, simply a lack of Theism, a lack of imperfect Theism or a lack of perfect Theism?
Again, atheism is a lack of belief in deities.

Seriously - very simple stuff here.

Even you can grasp it.

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#198 Mar 1, 2014
Just Think,
What is thesis?
What is theism?
What is antithesis?
What is antitheism?
What is synthesis?
What is universal religion?

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#199 Mar 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Just Think,
What is thesis?
What is theism?
What is antithesis?
What is antitheism?
What is synthesis?
What is universal religion?
Six things you're about to bore us with?

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#200 Mar 1, 2014
Karma alone cannot hold where an innocent baby is born into penury, and another into wealth.
There is a perpetual alternation of death with rebirth of all things that vibrate with life.
At each breath, death and rebirth alternate;
At regular intervals, all cells go through death and rebirth in a living organism;
The death of each night spells a rebirth of a new dawn;
Each sunset is followed by a sunrise;
Every night sleep heralds a new-morning awakening;
The death of each year ushers in the birth of a new one;
Decay is always followed by new growth;
And if there is no physical annihilation, i.e. complete destruction of matter, then how much less so with the soul of man?
If human body is made up of gross matter, and the soul of man of a finer and incorruptible essence, then where even the destruction of the baser matter is possible, death to the soul will be quite unthinkable anywhere.
If the visible matter is indestructible, then the invisible, intagible soul of man cannot but be alive for ever.

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#201 Mar 1, 2014
In the Law of Reincarnation, the Law of Karma comes handy for its fulfillment.
There are uncountable earth-life experiences that give one an impression of imbalance in the justice of God.
Such apparent injustice of God can be noticed where 'unmerited' fortunes are being showered on many ne'er-do-wells of detestable characters; and where 'undeserved' ill-fortunes are sprinkled over many others that are diligent, honest and of sound sterling characters in every respect.
There are two broad classes of humans in this world - the reincarnates and the incarnates.
The former are those who have beem here once or more, before their present earth-life.
Each of these reincarnates must fall into any of these three categories of karmic scorers - negative, zero and positive scorers, i.e. those with karmic debts, those with karmic evenness, those with karmic credits.
And these three classes of humans are found in various professions as diligent born paupers, diligent self-made rich and idle born rich, respectively.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#202 Mar 1, 2014
The homilies on karma and reincarnation are just that--homilies. Sermons. A collection of statements of faith tied together in a neat package but with no evidence to even suggest that it exists in the real world, that it is more than a fantasy. It is sufficient only to convince those who accept ideas based on the extent to which it appeals to their desires. If you desire that life be fair (every parent know that it isn't and reminds their kids of that when they whine), then believe in a law of perfect justice. Invent karma and reincarnation to explain why some see no justice in this life. If you're an accountant and want everything to balance like a neatly kept ledger, invent a perfect law that confirms that notion. Invent anything to avoid unpleasant truth, to deny that such a thing even exists.

But don't be surprised when skeptics don't agree with your nice and neat little explanations for the messiness of reality.
Richardfs

Merrylands, Australia

#203 Mar 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Many arguments have been put up for proving the existence of God - especially the 'design-designer' argument.
On the other hand, one of the arguments against the existence of God is the incompatibility of omnipotence of God with His benevolence, i.e. if there is God, the God must be all-powerful and good;
Whereas, the apparent existence of evil denies God of either of the attributes. And so, the God loses His divinity.
Whereas, there is God, i.e. the supreme Intelligence, i.e. the Absolute - perfect, omnipotent, omnipresent, benevolent, just and unchanging.
If God has the above attributes, there can never be room for evil. Where God is omnipresent, evil will be 'omniabsent'. Where God is omnipotent and benevolent, evil remains non-existent.
The so-called evil is good, i.e. painful good; while the opposite, pleasurable good. No solution without problem; No peace without war; Every effort spells a commensurate advance.
(Please do not post your reactions yet.)
"No peace without war"

What would call it if there was no war?

Come on do you ever read what you post?

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#204 Mar 1, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Reason Personified,
Atheism, simply a lack of Theism, a lack of imperfect Theism or a lack of perfect Theism?
Atheism is the lack of theism. That means any and all theisms. It doesn't hinge on which theism is not in attendance. Many things can be added to this bit of truth, by many different people. But it is like water, in itself it is whole. Nothing more needed, and adding things to it, just makes it water with stuff added. Atheism is simply the lack of theism.

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