Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24178 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#21070 Feb 13, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>It doesn't seem to take all that much to derail a thought processor like yours. Case in point, this excerpt from your post could almost could be mistaken for a thought. >>>
>> "This existence exists only because they exist !" <<
<< It is proof that you have wandered very close to, but did so without actually partaking of, that forbidden tree of knowledge
That came from left of center ! you used reasoning to come to that opinion ?
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#21071 Feb 13, 2014
All threads linked with God or Religion turn into a vicious multiple attack on any Theist that tries to express their beliefs ! Know this, Atheists are not backed up by science nor Logic ! They have no REAL argument ! The onus is on Atheists to prove that God does not exist ! NOT the other way around , as they would have you believe !:)

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#21072 Feb 13, 2014
MUQ wrote:
God made us humans, the pinnacle of His creations and you want to become animals?
You are an animal. The alternatives are microbes, plants, fungi, and inanimate objects.
CrimeaRiver

UK

#21073 Feb 13, 2014
trandiode wrote:
It is clear that Atheists have no real arguments, as they never put any proof or theory forward, they just mock the arguments put forward by theists ! To date not one has put forward an intelligent argument as to why a God cannot exist ! All they have put forward are demeaning comments that make little to no sense ! Sorry to all the Atheists that have posted on this thread you have not been very convincing ! The belief in a God opens you up to far more than just a father figure ! it opens you up to the infinite possibilities of your physical existence and gives you a meaning and a purpose to your life, you can do so much more than you realize ! Alas something you will never know, you have put up a wall and by doing so you have blocked your view and your path and everything you could of gained along the way !
Seriously? Please forgive my tone if it sounds mocking. I dont wish to mock anybody.

But the onus is on you to prove that God exists no for Atheists to prove he doesn't.

The proof of God's non-existence is apparent everyday. Nobody sees, touches or hears Him. He doesn't show himself, write emails or appear on reality TV. Nobody knows where he lives, how he travels around, whether he breathes oxygen. Does he have an education, does he have parents. He had a son whom he allowed to be killed.
This God of yours apparently allows paedophiles to head chruches and preach His faith to the masses. He also allows children to contract cancer and be born with AIDS.

The onus is definitely on you to prove God's existence.

Everyday Reality is proof that God does not exist!
CrimeaRiver

UK

#21074 Feb 13, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> Ants are so grounded to the earth, Birds can walk upon the earth and fly among the clouds ! Atheists my friend are indeed ants !
Every living thing has its purpose. Ants enjoy an amazingly intricate and efficient social order without the need for a God. The Queen gives life and so she alone is God. But ants (and other insects) are key to Human survival. They airate the soil, the carry plant seed an are food for birds, anteaters, monkeys and lizards.

Some would say that the social order and efficiency of ants makes them superior to Humans

That is the point of all living creatures. To perpetuate the circle of life by not abusing nature around us.

Only GOD'S humans hunt for sport, overeat, lie, rape and murder.

More proof that there is no God
rio

Bromley, UK

#21075 Feb 13, 2014
CrimeaRiver wrote:
<quoted text>
But the onus is on you to prove that God exists no for Atheists to prove he doesn't.
!
The onus is on atheists to explain the origin of the universe though...

Until they do that, people can believe in the probability of a creator.

So far, what we had are just condemnations of theists, "evolution" as an answer and avoidance of answering questions.

Just one question, what was before "Big Bang" ?
rio

Bromley, UK

#21076 Feb 13, 2014
trandiode wrote:
All threads linked with God or Religion turn into a vicious multiple attack on any Theist that tries to express their beliefs ! Know this, Atheists are not backed up by science nor Logic ! They have no REAL argument ! The onus is on Atheists to prove that God does not exist ! NOT the other way around , as they would have you believe !:)
"The onus is on Atheists to prove that God does not exist ! "

They could easily do that by telling us how the universe came about.

Or from which ORIGIN the evolution comes from.

Unless they do that, they are as much in the dark as anyone else.
CrimeaRiver

UK

#21077 Feb 13, 2014
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
The onus is on atheists to explain the origin of the universe though...
Until they do that, people can believe in the probability of a creator.
So far, what we had are just condemnations of theists, "evolution" as an answer and avoidance of answering questions.
Just one question, what was before "Big Bang" ?
I do not know what was before the Big Bang........ but neither do you.

I am happy to admit it.... you are not

I am happy to consider the thousnads and thousnads of research hours that are trying to explain the origin of the universe.......... you simply regurgitate 3,000 year old texts.

Scientists at CERN are trying to re-create the exact conditions that may have existed prior to the Big Bang.......... belief in God allows no such investigation.

Evolution explains, with examples, how variuos life forms have evolved into animals we see today.......... the Bible says simply that God created the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky with no real insight into how.

Just because i don't know it doesn't mean I'll answer every question with 'God did it'

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#21078 Feb 13, 2014
trandiode wrote:
It is clear that Atheists have no real arguments, as they never put any proof or theory forward, they just mock the arguments put forward by theists !
What is your argument or evidence? Your beliefs are faith based.
trandiode wrote:
To date not one has put forward an intelligent argument as to why a God cannot exist !
That's not the majority position. We argue that god claims are unsupported, that the god hypothesis appears unnecessary, that gods are very unlikely and probably don't exist, and that if they do, they haven't contacted us, and have required nothing of us, including faith or worship. That's very different from your claim on our behalf.
trandiode wrote:
Sorry to all the Atheists that have posted on this thread you have not been very convincing !
We have nothing that you value to offer you.

"Water is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen. What if someone says,“Well, that’s not how I choose to think about water; All we can do is appeal to scientific values. And if he doesn’t share those values, the conversation is over ." - Sam Harris

"If someone doesn’t value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove they should value it? If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" - Sam Harris
trandiode wrote:
The belief in a God opens you up to far more than just a father figure !
It opens you up to an irrational metaphysics, a sterile epistemology, and a monstrous ethical system that considers whatever a god commands to be good right because it has commanded it, however sadistic.
trandiode wrote:
gives you a meaning and a purpose to your life
Not if that meaning and purpose depend on the existence of god. If your purpose is defined by that, then you have no purpose except to praise a god, which means that you are of no value to others or yourself, and of very little to the god..
trandiode wrote:
you can do so much more than you realize !
You haven't been paying attention to your own doctrine, which teaches that man is failed and a failure. It is humanism that celebrates mankind and its potential. Christians are some of the most nihilistic and pessimistic people on the planet. Here's such an opinions that I answered recently

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

What Christians call hope I call nihilism and deep pessimism.

What you call love, I call scapegoating, substitutional atonement through torture, emotional terrorism, harsh and damning judgment, and a dysfunctional relationship with an abusive god.

What you call moral behavior I call submission,which is an abdication of moral responsibility.

What you call meaning and purpose - serving a god - I call a meaningless and purposeless existence.

What you call spirituality, I call alienation from your own bodies, your fellow man, and the universe - things which you disparagingly refer to as "the flesh" and "the world."

You call faith a virtue and a path to knowledge. I call it a "sin" against reason and the self.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#21079 Feb 13, 2014
trandiode wrote:
It is clear that Atheists have no real arguments, as they never put any proof or theory forward, they just mock the arguments put forward by theists !
As long as theists' arguments are only blindfaith
trandiode wrote:
To date not one has put forward an intelligent argument as to why a God cannot exist ! All they have put forward are demeaning comments that make little to no sense ! Sorry to all the Atheists that have posted on this thread you have not been very convincing !
The fact is that you'r preachings would rather push me away from all kind of beliefs, you have no talent to convince any one
trandiode wrote:
The belief in a God opens you up to far more than just a father figure ! it opens you up to the infinite possibilities of your physical existence and gives you a meaning and a purpose to your life, you can do so much more than you realize !
The unbelief of a god opens my mind on seeking by myself the meaning to my own existence instead of being told by peoples for whom I've not any consideration
trandiode wrote:
Alas something you will never know, you have put up a wall and by doing so you have blocked your view and your path and everything you could of gained along the way !
Ne sutor ultra crepidam

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#21080 Feb 13, 2014
rio wrote:
Just one question, what was before "Big Bang" ?
Maybe this question is as senseless as "what was before the begining of time ?"

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#21081 Feb 13, 2014
trandiode wrote:
All threads linked with God or Religion turn into a vicious multiple attack on any Theist that tries to express their beliefs !
Vicious attacks? You can put down your cross now.

If you don't want your religious beliefs critiqued, don't post them in a public discussion about religious beliefs.
trandiode wrote:
Know this, Atheists are not backed up by science nor Logic ! They have no REAL argument ! The onus is on Atheists to prove that God does not exist ! NOT the other way around , as they would have you believe !:)
The culture is engaged in a protracted discussion of the merits of faith and organized religion relative to those of humanism and Enlightenment values. The onus is on your church to survive it by convincing the rest of us of its value if it wishes to maintain relevance.
rio

Bromley, UK

#21082 Feb 13, 2014
CrimeaRiver wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not know what was before the Big Bang........ but neither do you.
I am happy to admit it.... you are not
I am happy to consider the thousnads and thousnads of research hours that are trying to explain the origin of the universe.......... you simply regurgitate 3,000 year old texts.
Scientists at CERN are trying to re-create the exact conditions that may have existed prior to the Big Bang.......... belief in God allows no such investigation.
Evolution explains, with examples, how variuos life forms have evolved into animals we see today.......... the Bible says simply that God created the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky with no real insight into how.
Just because i don't know it doesn't mean I'll answer every question with 'God did it'
You obviously never read my posts!
I am not interested in 3000 years old texts, and I don't follow any religion.

But, at the same time, I believe at the probability of a creator, since none of the scientific explanations are able to convince me there is none.

When science will have come with a satisfactory answer, I may change my mind.
So far it hasn't!

I believe in evolution, but that doesn't explain the orign of life, how matter transformed itself into intelligent creatures, nor how matter itself came about.

If you have all these answesr, please share them with me.

Until then, don't dismiss deists as stupid people.
rio

Bromley, UK

#21083 Feb 13, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe this question is as senseless as "what was before the begining of time ?"
In fact it's a very intelligent question!

If you don't have the answer to that, you are just as much in the dark as me, and you shouldn't laugh at people who ask the question.

If you are not interested in where it all came from, fine, but don't dismiss people who have an interest.

You constant answer is "There is no God, you cannot prove it".
But your reasoning isn't faultless either. "I don't want to know".

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#21084 Feb 13, 2014
rio wrote:
The onus is on atheists to explain the origin of the universe though...
Is that your argument? If so, you have no argument.
rio wrote:
Until they do that, people can believe in the probability of a creator.
How would scientific proof have any effect on a faith based thinker? We feel no burden to convince faith based thinkers of anything. With what? Logic? Evidence?
rio wrote:
Just one question, what was before "Big Bang" ?
The best hypothesis is the multiverse - a timeless, amorphous, nonliving, primordial substance from which an unlimited number and variety of universes has budded, some capable of supporting life and consciousness.

I have one for you: How can a god exist uncreated? Did it evolve from the substance of the multiverse?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#21085 Feb 13, 2014
rio wrote:
"The onus is on Atheists to prove that God does not exist ! " They could easily do that by telling us how the universe came about.
Don't kid yourself. I just gave a plausible explanation. We both know that such things have no value to you.
rio wrote:
Unless they do that, they are as much in the dark as anyone else.
Not so. The darkness of faith is much blacker than the glimmer of reason.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#21086 Feb 13, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
Maybe this question is as senseless as "what was before the begining of time ?"
Correct. It's a malformed question, like, "Which star in the Milky Way is westernmost?" or "What is the speed of the earth through space?"
CrimeaRiver

UK

#21087 Feb 13, 2014
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
You obviously never read my posts!
I am not interested in 3000 years old texts, and I don't follow any religion.
But, at the same time, I believe at the probability of a creator, since none of the scientific explanations are able to convince me there is none.
When science will have come with a satisfactory answer, I may change my mind.
So far it hasn't!
I believe in evolution, but that doesn't explain the orign of life, how matter transformed itself into intelligent creatures, nor how matter itself came about.
If you have all these answesr, please share them with me.
Until then, don't dismiss deists as stupid people.
So Rio - If I told you that ancient mayan, inca and sumerian civilisations believed that Human kind evolved from contact with a celestial being that resembles an Alien.

Would you beleive that Aliens intervened in the evolution of Humans?
rio

Bromley, UK

#21088 Feb 13, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
The best hypothesis is the multiverse - a timeless, amorphous, nonliving, primordial substance from which an unlimited number and variety of universes has budded, some capable of supporting life and consciousness.
OK, can you tell me where this " a timeless, amorphous, nonliving, primordial substance" came from?

It seems that for you everything came from nothing, existed spontaneously, and will go back to nothing.

I am sorry, but you haven't answer my question.

If you don't have the answer, just don't pretend you have!
rio

Bromley, UK

#21089 Feb 13, 2014
CrimeaRiver wrote:
<quoted text>
So Rio - If I told you that ancient mayan, inca and sumerian civilisations believed that Human kind evolved from contact with a celestial being that resembles an Alien.
Would you beleive that Aliens intervened in the evolution of Humans?
I seek a plausible answer to my question "Where did it all came from?"

No point of making fun of it with silly asides.

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