Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24099 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#21008 Feb 11, 2014
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly.
Giving apparently weak minds reason to live seems to be one explanation for the persistence of religion (and other superstitions)- "I don't understand the meaning of life so 'my belief is'(whatever religion)". Arguably, much of the trouble in the world is due to people holding strong or even absolute beliefs in whatever the hell they like, such as Islam, Zionism, child genital mutilation, Creationism, racist or sexist beliefs, to give just some examples. Beliefs are dangerous if they're absolute or not always open to question. The superstitious are naturally very defensive.
One root of the problem might be the concept of having a 'set of beliefs'. Beliefs should be limited to the reason and evidence that supports them - ALL beliefs, religious, "sacred" or otherwise.
Weak Minds ? I think not ! To me a weak minded person sees and finds nothing where a strong mind seeks and finds what is missing ! To say there is no reason to be is an escape route from using all the intelligence you were given, to think about the meaning of existence ! No intelligent thinking person could possibly believe that there is no reason for existence, if you really believe existence has no meaning or reason , then you are either lying to yourself or adverse to reasoning !
Richardfs

Merrylands, Australia

#21009 Feb 11, 2014
EXPERT wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure you have and do. Why must you deny it?
More stupidity form a mindless godbot.
Richardfs

Merrylands, Australia

#21010 Feb 11, 2014
BTW

EXPERT

ex ----> a has been
spurt ---> a drip under pressure
CrimeaRiver

UK

#21011 Feb 11, 2014
If you can't see it, can't measure it, can't taste, smell or touch it.

Then it doesn't exist!
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#21012 Feb 11, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> ...No intelligent thinking person could possibly believe that there is no reason for existence,..
No thinking person would believe in gods or fairies.
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#21013 Feb 11, 2014
Nothing when used in the context of existence is an impossibility ! You can say you have nothing in your pocket, But in reality that's not true, Everything in reality is full even a hole ! Nothing means ,no space, no time, no shape, no form, no dimension, no color, no blackness, no light,no vacuum, no sub atomic particles NOTHING ! You cannot create nothing, the human mind cannot even contemplate a nothingness ! its a complete impossibility ! Believing in a state of nothing defies everything that exists ! You cannot prove a nothing ! So why do you argue against a God and replace him with a nothing ! Its Just so incredibly naive, I really cannot believe that people are so blase as to use the word nothing so so meaninglessly ! Understand what you are really saying then you will realize how silly and absurd it really is !
CrimeaRiver

UK

#21014 Feb 11, 2014
trandiode wrote:
Nothing when used in the context of existence is an impossibility ! You can say you have nothing in your pocket, But in reality that's not true, Everything in reality is full even a hole ! Nothing means ,no space, no time, no shape, no form, no dimension, no color, no blackness, no light,no vacuum, no sub atomic particles NOTHING ! You cannot create nothing, the human mind cannot even contemplate a nothingness ! its a complete impossibility ! Believing in a state of nothing defies everything that exists ! You cannot prove a nothing ! So why do you argue against a God and replace him with a nothing ! Its Just so incredibly naive, I really cannot believe that people are so blase as to use the word nothing so so meaninglessly ! Understand what you are really saying then you will realize how silly and absurd it really is !
Why does God have to be replaced with nothing?

If God doesn't exist, HE simply doesn't exist. There is no need to replace him with anything, let alone nothing.

But what you are arguing for is not God. You have never seen God or seen any evidence of him. What you are arguing for is blind faith.... that you believe in God so He exists in your sphere of reality.

What the rest of us are arguing against is the use of blind faith as evidence of God.

Blind faith is not evidence, it is dangerous. It makes people do crazy things like blow up trains or join cults.

Feel free to worship your God but understand that is your personal choice based on your personal faith in His existence. It can never be used to convince non believers of an Almighty.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#21015 Feb 11, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> If that's your proof that God does not exist it is so pathetic it is Laughable !
You're the one claiming god isn't part of the universe by saying he created it in the first place.

It isn't my fault your beliefs can't hold up to any scrutiny whatsoever.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#21016 Feb 11, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> Weak Minds ? I think not ! To me a weak minded person sees and finds nothing where a strong mind seeks and finds what is missing ! To say there is no reason to be is an escape route from using all the intelligence you were given, to think about the meaning of existence ! No intelligent thinking person could possibly believe that there is no reason for existence, if you really believe existence has no meaning or reason , then you are either lying to yourself or adverse to reasoning !
Intelligent people work out their own reasons to exist.

Idiots have to be given one.

That's why you believe in god.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#21017 Feb 11, 2014
trandiode wrote:
Nothing when used in the context of existence is an impossibility ! You can say you have nothing in your pocket, But in reality that's not true, Everything in reality is full even a hole ! Nothing means ,no space, no time, no shape, no form, no dimension, no color, no blackness, no light,no vacuum, no sub atomic particles NOTHING ! You cannot create nothing, the human mind cannot even contemplate a nothingness ! its a complete impossibility ! Believing in a state of nothing defies everything that exists ! You cannot prove a nothing ! So why do you argue against a God and replace him with a nothing ! Its Just so incredibly naive, I really cannot believe that people are so blase as to use the word nothing so so meaninglessly ! Understand what you are really saying then you will realize how silly and absurd it really is !
If the human mind can't contemplate nothingness, where did the first half of your post come from?

Are you now saying god speaks through you? You think you're a prophet?
rio

London, UK

#21018 Feb 11, 2014
Personally, I prefer the humility of people who seeks answers to the arrogance of those who claim to have all the answers.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#21019 Feb 11, 2014
rio wrote:
Personally, I prefer the humility of people who seeks answers to the arrogance of those who claim to have all the answers.
Then you should start to practise what you preach.
rio

London, UK

#21020 Feb 11, 2014
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Then you should start to practise what you preach.
In spiritual matters, I hardly pretend to have any answer!!

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#21021 Feb 11, 2014
rio wrote:
Personally, I prefer the humility of people who seeks answers to the arrogance of those who claim to have all the answers.
trandiod has the asnwer

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#21022 Feb 11, 2014
Funny Camels weren't still domisticated the supposed time of Abraham did live
A rock in the garden of those who wants Bible to be a fact book
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/11/science/cam...

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#21023 Feb 11, 2014
trandiode wrote:
You cannot prove a nothing ! So why do you argue against a God and replace him with a nothing ! Its Just so incredibly naive, I really cannot believe that people are so blase as to use the word nothing so so meaninglessly ! Understand what you are really saying then you will realize how silly and absurd it really is !
For a rationalist, as long as your god can't be a subject of physical exprimentations, it stands for nothing
So that you oppose nothingness to nothingness
Jim

Great Missenden, UK

#21024 Feb 11, 2014
trandiode wrote:
Nothing when used in the context of existence is an impossibility ! You can say you have nothing in your pocket, But in reality that's not true, Everything in reality is full even a hole ! Nothing means ,no space, no time, no shape, no form, no dimension, no color, no blackness, no light,no vacuum, no sub atomic particles NOTHING ! You cannot create nothing, the human mind cannot even contemplate a nothingness ! its a complete impossibility ! Believing in a state of nothing defies everything that exists ! You cannot prove a nothing ! So why do you argue against a God and replace him with a nothing ! Its Just so incredibly naive, I really cannot believe that people are so blase as to use the word nothing so so meaninglessly ! Understand what you are really saying then you will realize how silly and absurd it really is !
Creationists denying reality again, so whats new?
Jim

Great Missenden, UK

#21025 Feb 11, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> Weak Minds ? I think not ! To me a weak minded person sees and finds nothing where a strong mind seeks and finds what is missing ! To say there is no reason to be is an escape route from using all the intelligence you were given, to think about the meaning of existence ! No intelligent thinking person could possibly believe that there is no reason for existence, if you really believe existence has no meaning or reason , then you are either lying to yourself or adverse to reasoning !
You people talk about existence and meaning, before proving any of your liars mouths and bringing any evidence for the crap you're trying to sell us.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#21026 Feb 11, 2014
richardfs wrote:
Judging by the action of his followers:-

1. Murder (especially of little girls).
2. Rape (especially of little girls).
3. Destruction.

Don't try and dress you religion up as a benevolent society we know it isn't.
EXPERT wrote:
How is it any different than your actions of murder and rape of little girls and destruction?
Whose action? The deeds of violent psychopaths? It's not different.

But don't you think it should be? You set a low bar for your god.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#21028 Feb 11, 2014
EdSed wrote:
Exactly. Giving apparently weak minds reason to live seems to be one explanation for the persistence of religion (and other superstitions)- "I don't understand the meaning of life so 'my belief is'(whatever religion)". Arguably, much of the trouble in the world is due to people holding strong or even absolute beliefs in whatever the hell they like, such as Islam, Zionism, child genital mutilation, Creationism, racist or sexist beliefs, to give just some examples. Beliefs are dangerous if they're absolute or not always open to question. The superstitious are naturally very defensive.

One root of the problem might be the concept of having a 'set of beliefs'. Beliefs should be limited to the reason and evidence that supports them - ALL beliefs, religious, "sacred" or otherwise.
Yes, reason is the enemy of faith. Luther understood that quite well:

[1]“Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but—more frequently than not—struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.”- Martin Luther

[2]”Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God." - Martin Luther

[3] "Reason should be destroyed in all Christians." - Martin Luther

[4] "Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of his Reason." - Martin Luther

Religion invents problems that only it can solve, such as the need for its god to redeem man from a problem it created - sin and damnation. Likewise, we are told that there is no basis to morality without its god, and no meaning or purpose to life without its god.

"Religion. It’s given hope in a world torn apart by religion.”– Jon Stewart

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