Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 23869 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20813 Feb 5, 2014
MUQ wrote:
That is why I say that Atheists are the most unreasonable and most illogical persons on the face of earth.
If they were actually blinds, at least there was some excuse for them, but having eyes and seeing the world around us and still believing that they come out by themselves, means that he does not have eyes.
When I see a tsunami killing 280000 muslims, men women and kids, in Sumatra, I can't believe that a great misericordious god can exist, and that God or Allah believers are very logic.
Same when in Italy, after a first seism part of the population took refuge in the village church, second seism destroyed only the church killing all who sheltered into it.
Believers are sure very logical.
While I was a woodwork designer, each time I was ordered to draw a baby coffin, I wondered who's that god believers do pray at.
rio

Bromley, UK

#20814 Feb 5, 2014
Thinking wrote:
You must have let a lot of people down.
<quoted text>
No, I just don't believe in half measures.
When things have run their course, it's better to move on ...

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20815 Feb 5, 2014
trandiode wrote:
You have to concede there is a possibility of a Divine Planner to believe in the Laws established by Science ! There is no chaos there is order ! To have order there has to be intelligence in design ! Where does that intelligence come from ?
Scientists say that Earth-Moon system was born by a collision of Proto-Earth with a smaller planet, that this accident blew up in space most of the Proto-Earth atmosphere.
If ever it wouldn't have been so, then the Earth atmosphere would have been so thick that atmospherical conditions would have been quite close as that of Venus forbidding any life to emerge. Now life on Earth may have been accidental, and that doesn't make a case for intelligent design..

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20816 Feb 5, 2014
CrimeaRiver wrote:
God (...)- apparently has 3 names; God, Jehovah and Allah but can't decide which one to use(...)
Muslims say that their God has 100 names and that saying them all insures paradise

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20818 Feb 5, 2014
trandiode wrote:
To be an Atheist denies you half your existence ! It deprives you of a meaning to Life and a meaning for your own and all of Existence ! Existence becomes a strange idea of a nothing ! No purpose no meaning ! No reason to be ! There is but one problem to your theory of nothing, We EXIST and so does the entire Universe and we also THINK !
The atheists aren't to be told the meaning of their existence, they must find or make it by themselves, if there is any, other than by their parents' will or sexual pleasure.
That seems to disturb you a lot to see peoples choosing by themselves their own way, their own explanation of why and how things are, without fear of a great manipulator or death.
And mainly without trust of what is screaming a trandiode in topix

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20819 Feb 5, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
Muslims say that their God has 100 names and that saying them all insures paradise
I find quite funny to have negative judgements when I just state facts.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#20821 Feb 5, 2014
trandiode wrote:
To be an Atheist denies you half your existence ! It deprives you of a meaning to Life and a meaning for your own and all of Existence !
Your faith-based worldview and sense of your place in it seem to have robbed your life of meaning. I would suggest that if meaning in your life depends on their being a god, then it has none even if that god exists.

I suppose you see your purpose as you understand your god does - to come to heaven and praise it for eternity. Existing to worship a deity may be that god's purpose for you, but if you assent to that, then I'd say that your life has little meaning to it and none at all to you.
trandiode wrote:
No purpose no meaning ! No reason to be !
Too bad that you have been made to feel that way. You're ignoring your only authentic purpose.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#20822 Feb 5, 2014
trandiode wrote:
If the universe was an accident and everything in it came by way of accidents, then how can you have proven scientific Laws that you can rely upon time and time again ?
How could you not? With no god tinkering with the laws of nature, they ought to be regular.

Incidentally, accident isn't the right word. Unplanned and undesigned are. It's not an accident that giant nebula condense to form suns and solar systems of orbiting worlds. It happens that way every time because gravity always attracts.

And it appears likely that life and mind form according to similar laws wherever they can for similar reasons.

Sure, it's surprising that such things happen and that we are here to see and discuss it, but it's less surprising that such things can exist than that a god can exist.

Do you call your god an accident, or are such judgments reserved only for arguments against an undesigned universe?
trandiode wrote:
Science believes that everything works by Laws both Physical and Mathematical ! If so,Then how can you justify using the term using "Accident" !
I think that you're the one who used the word.
trandiode wrote:
its a huge Contradiction !!! don't you think ?
Yes.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20823 Feb 5, 2014
trandiode wrote:
You have to concede there is a possibility of a Divine Planner to believe in the Laws established by Science ! There is no chaos there is order ! To have order there has to be intelligence in design ! Where does that intelligence come from ?
I can't imagine a divine planner thinking: "Bloody Hell, that Earth is going nowhere with Dinosauri, I wipe all that stuff with a meteor and try with mamals"

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#20824 Feb 5, 2014
trandiode wrote:
You have to concede there is a possibility of a Divine Planner to believe in the Laws established by Science !
No, I don't need a god to account for regular laws in nature. Their regularity indicates that they are not designed. Flexibility and adaptability are more characteristic of life and mind than invariance.
trandiode wrote:
There is no chaos there is order !
That is subjective. We call it order when we can understand it intuitiviely, like an orbiting planet. We call it chaos when it overwhelms our ability to see the laws and patterns, as with turbulent water.
trandiode wrote:
To have order there has to be intelligence in design !
Disagree. Caprice is more characteristic of intelligence than predictability. An object rolling downhill has order, and appears unintelligent. If it were to suddenly extend limbs and start flying or running back uphill, that's when it would seem intelligent.
rio

Bromley, UK

#20826 Feb 5, 2014
Thinking wrote:
You're a quitter and a poor husband. People aren't playthings to be discarded just because you lurch from one existential crisis to another.
<quoted text>
How do you know all that?
You are very judgemental, to say the least, but you don't know anything about the circumstances.
For example, I have been a widower once, does that count as a quitter?
You should abstain to pass judgement on others; the same fate may befall upon you.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20828 Feb 5, 2014
trandiode wrote:
If the universe was an accident and everything in it came by way of accidents, then how can you have proven scientific Laws that you can rely upon time and time again ? Science believes that everything works by Laws both Physical and Mathematical ! If so,Then how can you justify using the term using "Accident" ! its a huge Contradiction !!! don't you think ?
Let's see pendulums. As you know, the oscillations of a pendulum are very regular, and depending on the length of its rope.
You make it a case for the an intelligent designer.
But should the oscillations be irregular, chaotic, then you would need some kind of magic explanation, or say that the motions relies on hazard, while and you exclude hazard, accident as explanation for Universe creation and its physical laws.
So that in both case, you need God, wich is contradictive.
rio

Bromley, UK

#20829 Feb 5, 2014
Thinking wrote:
One death excuses five marriages?
My opinion is unchanged.
<quoted text>
In all honesty, I couldn't care less about your opinion.

You are very quick to judge people, without knowing anything about them.

I am the opposite; even when I know a lot, I don't pass judgement about private matters.

Live and let live is my motto.
rio

Bromley, UK

#20831 Feb 5, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Bollocks. Remember, I've read your earlier posts. You're a piece of work with a shorter memory than me.
<quoted text>
So, what did I forget?
rio

Bromley, UK

#20833 Feb 5, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Three of your wives.
<quoted text>
Meaning ?

“Not everything that shines...”

Since: Aug 13

Hatch, NM

#20835 Feb 5, 2014
God,'contradictive? NEVER! He keeps no secrets and that's why astronomers do their stuff. He looks and smiles and checks how far we go. He gives us a lot of leeway. Who's complaining? I don't know, you don't know. God Knows. FACE IT ADMIT IT Oh yeah,one man,one woman. God KNOWS.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20836 Feb 5, 2014
LuzAranda wrote:
God,'contradictive? NEVER! He keeps no secrets and that's why astronomers do their stuff. He looks and smiles and checks how far we go. He gives us a lot of leeway. Who's complaining? I don't know, you don't know. God Knows. FACE IT ADMIT IT Oh yeah,one man,one woman. God KNOWS.
one man one woman and necessarly consanguine sexual relations; and therefore we should have all the very same genetic profile, which is not true, thus stop bothering peoples with biblical stupidities.
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#20837 Feb 5, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't imagine a divine planner thinking: "Bloody Hell, that Earth is going nowhere with Dinosauri, I wipe all that stuff with a meteor and try with mamals"
That is right ! You cant imagine !
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#20838 Feb 5, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's see pendulums. As you know, the oscillations of a pendulum are very regular, and depending on the length of its rope.
You make it a case for the an intelligent designer.
But should the oscillations be irregular, chaotic, then you would need some kind of magic explanation, or say that the motions relies on hazard, while and you exclude hazard, accident as explanation for Universe creation and its physical laws.
So that in both case, you need God, wich is contradictive.
That made no sense whatsoever !
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#20839 Feb 5, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I don't need a god to account for regular laws in nature. Their regularity indicates that they are not designed. Flexibility and adaptability are more characteristic of life and mind than invariance.
<quoted text>
That is subjective. We call it order when we can understand it intuitiviely, like an orbiting planet. We call it chaos when it overwhelms our ability to see the laws and patterns, as with turbulent water.
<quoted text>
Disagree. Caprice is more characteristic of intelligence than predictability. An object rolling downhill has order, and appears unintelligent. If it were to suddenly extend limbs and start flying or running back uphill, that's when it would seem intelligent.
All of your retorts are nothing but vain attempts of avoiding the truth ! You are wearing a blindfold to your own scientific beliefs :)

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