Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24178 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#20647 Jan 30, 2014
rio wrote:
Taking a slave in Mohammed time, was also protecting him.
Are you condoning slavery? It sounds like it.

The key word there is slave. When you make a person a slave, you steal his labor, his freedom, his autonomy, and his dignity. If he needs protecting and you want to do him a favor, give him sanctuary and a job, don't take him as a slave.

Those are humanist values, and they derive from rational ethics, which is the thoughtful application of the Golden Rule using humanist values, values that differ radically from those of the Abrahamic religions in many places.
rio

London, UK

#20648 Jan 30, 2014
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
If you had bothered to read my posts, you wouldn't ask that question.
I do not have a religion.
And from page 947....
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
I also BELIEVE that any criticism of religion is based on intolerance.
Speaks for itself.

I cannot see any contradiction here.

I advocate tolerance from both sides: believers tolerating atheists, and atheist tolerating believers.

Is that too difficult to understand?

And where does it show that I belong to a religion?
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#20649 Jan 30, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
You might smile at this:
"You stare into your high definition plasma screen monitor, type into your cordless keyboard then hit enter, which causes your computer to convert all that visual data into a binary signal that’s processed by millions of precise circuits.
"This is then converted to a frequency modulated signal to reach your wireless router where it is then converted to light waves and sent along a large fiber optics cable to be processed by a super computer on a mass server.
"This sends that bit you typed to a satellite orbiting the earth that was put there through the greatest feats of engineering and science, all so it could go back through a similar pathway to make it all the way here to my computer monitor 15,000 miles away from you just so you could say,“Science is all a bunch of man made hogwash.”- anon.
I do like it :) You have just wasted all that time writing Just so at the end you could spend your last sentence on a vain attempt to misquote me ! It was a complete waste of your time LOL

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#20651 Jan 30, 2014
From Ed Sed:
rio wrote:
I also BELIEVE that any criticism of religion is based on intolerance.
Did you really post that? Do you really believe it? Should religion be protected from sincere criticism?

What do you think of the scriptures from the Christian bible that declare unbelievers to be vile, corrupt, liars, none of whom are any good, and who are the moral equivalent of murderers and whoremongers? Is that kind of criticism of unbelief also intolerance to you, or is that OK?

And if not OK, do you think we should sit for it rather than criticize it?

Have you ever seen this?:

"It seems religion can dish it out okay but it can’t take it - like a street thug who calls the police when his victims fight back" - Pat Condell
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#20650 Jan 30, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
That issue is settled. Man is an ape descended from the same ape ancestor as all other extant apes. The only people that haven't accepted that are religious ideologues uninterested in evidence. There is no debate among scientists or the intelligentsia, none of which take objections from the religious seriously.
Sorry if you find that dismissive, but it's the case. Faith based thinkers and their refusal to consider evidence impartially are ignored. The faithful disqualify themselves and their objections by virtue of the manner in which they reach them.
The issue is not settled ! There has been no cross Human/Ape ever found ! There has never been not even one human bone in any of the so called human like apes ever found ! You would at least need two hundred missing links from differing periods of time to make this theory work ! to date it has yielded NOT ONE !
Jim

London, UK

#20652 Jan 30, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> The issue is not settled ! There has been no cross Human/Ape ever found ! There has never been not even one human bone in any of the so called human like apes ever found ! You would at least need two hundred missing links from differing periods of time to make this theory work ! to date it has yielded NOT ONE !
The average Creationist Cult Member like transdiode is a sorry, ignorant wreck who can't seem to understand he has no evidence of god and no evidence against the fact of evolution.

Maybe one day these desperate liar trolls will realise palin lost the election in 2005? And Creationism was laughed out of court in Kansas?

The central belief behind Creationists philosophy is staying stupid, ignorant and belligerent towards knowledge, facts or honesty.

Ask a troll for proof of god and he will attack and ridicule hard facts to protect his own liar-ego.

Eventually there will be treatment for these people.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#20653 Jan 30, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
The placebo effect is very naturalisitic, Did you think otherwise? Did you think it implied a god?
trandiode wrote:
Naturalistic ? LOL
Do you know what the alternative is? Supernaturalism.

I notice that you didn't answer my question.
trandiode wrote:
quoted text>It is well known that as part of testing any new medication they have to allow for a percentage of physical improvements in their calculations due to the Placebo effect ! The Placebo effect is caused by a belief by the patient that the medication is healing them, and that belief is transferring over to their Physical bodies ! That suggests that belief and thought is not only limited to the imagination but that it crosses over into the physical reality !

How is this possible ?
How is it possible for the mind to affect the body? That's the mind-body problem, an ancient philosophical conundrum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93bo...

I ask you again: do you think that the mind-body problem implies a god? It appears that you do.
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#20654 Jan 30, 2014
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
The average Creationist Cult Member like transdiode is a sorry, ignorant wreck who can't seem to understand he has no evidence of god and no evidence against the fact of evolution.
Maybe one day these desperate liar trolls will realise palin lost the election in 2005? And Creationism was laughed out of court in Kansas?
The central belief behind Creationists philosophy is staying stupid, ignorant and belligerent towards knowledge, facts or honesty.
Ask a troll for proof of god and he will attack and ridicule hard facts to protect his own liar-ego.
Eventually there will be treatment for these people.
Dear Jim, I know you have your opinions, but people normally back up their opinions with something more than just verbal attacks, Something that may sway people to think this guy may be right ! You appear to be a yes man rather than a true thinker !
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#20655 Jan 30, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Do you know what the alternative is? Supernaturalism.
I notice that you didn't answer my question.
<quoted text>
How is it possible for the mind to affect the body? That's the mind-body problem, an ancient philosophical conundrum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93bo...
I ask you again: do you think that the mind-body problem implies a god? It appears that you do.
It implies that there is more to life than meets the eye ! This is but a simple way of showing it to those with simple minds ! Mind-body problem LOL That's an understatement if ever I heard one, Not very scientific though LOL !

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20656 Jan 30, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text>It is well known that as part of testing any new medication they have to allow for a percentage of physical improvements in their calculations due to the Placebo effect ! The Placebo effect is caused by a belief by the patient that the medication is healing them, and that belief is transferring over to their Physical bodies ! That suggests that belief and thought is not only limited to the imagination but that it crosses over into the physical reality ! How is this possible ?
It is known by good doctors (they are not so many) that just speaking to patients, having them reassured, will cure them. Unhappilly, these family doctors which came to the patients' home have become a rare specie, medecine has to much become an affair of specialists who cure organs instead of people.
My elder sister was a neuropsychiatrist who was reluctant to give drugs to her patients. She used to question her new patients on their way of life, convinced she was that bad way of life and poor social relationship was the main source of mental troubles and psychosomatic driven illness and that acting on them was more efficient than pills prescriptions.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20657 Jan 30, 2014
trandiode wrote:
The issue is not settled ! There has been no cross Human/Ape ever found ! There has never been not even one human bone in any of the so called human like apes ever found ! You would at least need two hundred missing links from differing periods of time to make this theory work ! to date it has yielded NOT ONE !
You don't want the issue be settled, that's all.
The matter doesn't rely on archeologic discoveries with more or less "missing links", it relies on genetic, which tells that we have more than 98% genes similar as these of chimps, and the more distant species are at each others, the less they have similar genes.

“Not everything that shines...”

Since: Aug 13

Hatch, NM

#20658 Jan 30, 2014
Truth?? what is the TRUTH.?? Take the FORUM with a Grain of Salt.
rio

London, UK

#20659 Jan 30, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
From Ed Sed:
<quoted text>
Did you really post that? Do you really believe it? Should religion be protected from sincere criticism?
ll
I did and I stick by it too.

If atheists want to be tolerated, they should tolerate believers and stop attacking religion.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20660 Jan 30, 2014
rio wrote:
I did and I stick by it too.
If atheists want to be tolerated, they should tolerate believers and stop attacking religion.
I guess that unbelievers in USA will stop attacking religion when everybody will sit at his place,
scientific studies and darwinism at school and religion and creationism at church.

And notice that I suspect that some of the most eager God's defenders to be clergymen

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#20661 Jan 30, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> The issue is not settled ! There has been no cross Human/Ape ever found ! There has never been not even one human bone in any of the so called human like apes ever found ! You would at least need two hundred missing links from differing periods of time to make this theory work ! to date it has yielded NOT ONE !
Why do morons, like you, insist on criticizing creationist evolution claims? Yes... I said "creationist evolution claims" because it is only creationists that claim what you just did. I defy you to find one peer reviewed SCIENTIFC paper that sates the Theory of Evolution claims that a 1/2 man 1/2 ape should have existed in order for evolution to be true.

You do realize that finding a 1/2 man 1/2 ape would put a stake through the heart of The Theory of Evolution... don't you?? Oh... of course not... you have NO idea what the theory actually states!

Why is shear stupidity so important to you?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#20662 Jan 30, 2014
rio wrote:
I also BELIEVE that any criticism of religion is based on intolerance

I advocate tolerance from both sides: believers tolerating atheists, and atheist tolerating believers.
Your definition of tolerance is inadequate. Sincere criticism is not intolerance.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20663 Jan 30, 2014
fadu singh wrote:
Do you think four men would just be spectators of a rape scene unless, of course, they're cowards ?
Rape mostly happens when the victim doesn't have anyone beside her to save herself.
There are much better options today to prove rape so your God's law is obsolete and hence should no more be practised or considered.
It's not about rape, it's about consented extra-marriage sexual relationships which are to be punished with 100 whip lashes, following muslim laws.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#20664 Jan 30, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
You might smile at this:

"You stare into your high definition plasma screen monitor, type into your cordless keyboard then hit enter, which causes your computer to convert all that visual data into a binary signal that’s processed by millions of precise circuits. This is then converted to a frequency modulated signal to reach your wireless router where it is then converted to light waves and sent along a large fiber optics cable to be processed by a super computer on a mass server. This sends that bit you typed to a satellite orbiting the earth that was put there through the greatest feats of engineering and science, all so it could go back through a similar pathway to make it all the way here to my computer monitor 15,000 miles away from you just so you could say,“Science is all a bunch of man made hogwash.”- anon.
trandiode wrote:
I do like it :) You have just wasted all that time writing Just so at the end you could spend your last sentence on a vain attempt to misquote me ! It was a complete waste of your time LOL
I only wrote the first five words, but it was my pleasure to have donated my time writing them.

And it is impossible for me to waste time.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#20667 Jan 30, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
That issue is settled. Man is an ape descended from the same ape ancestor as all other extant apes. The only people that haven't accepted that are religious ideologues uninterested in evidence. There is no debate among scientists or the intelligentsia, none of which take objections from the religious seriously. Sorry if you find that dismissive, but it's the case. Faith based thinkers and their refusal to consider evidence impartially are ignored. The faithful disqualify themselves and their objections by virtue of the manner in which they reach them.
trandiode wrote:
The issue is not settled !
I meant within the scientific and academic communities. There iis no debate about the "if" of evolution, just the "how."
trandiode wrote:
There has been no cross Human/Ape ever found !
Actually, there has, if by cross you mean an intermediate form between non-human apes and modern man rather than hybrid offspring. Austrlopithecines (Australopithecus, Ardipithicus, and Paranthropus) are transitional forms between brachiating apes and Homo sp.
trandiode wrote:
There has never been not even one human bone in any of the so called human like apes ever found ! You would at least need two hundred missing links from differing periods of time to make this theory work ! to date it has yielded NOT ONE !
With all due respect, this is why religious critics of evolution are generally not taken seriously. You are simply wrong, obviously uneducated in the subject, yet still feel sufficiently emboldened by faith to argue as if you were an expert. Sheer will is not enough to prevent the march of progress. This issue is behind us now.

Since: Mar 12

Andheri, India

#20668 Jan 30, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not about rape, it's about consented extra-marriage sexual relationships which are to be punished with 100 whip lashes, following muslim laws.
Yeah..
Sometimes women are stoned to death for having extramarital affairs..

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