Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 23584 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20410 Jan 26, 2014
trandiode wrote:
I got it now ! To become an Atheist I have to believe that everything came from nothing,That the Universe itself was an accident, That the universe is full of chaos caused by that accident, That all our galaxies were accidents, that all the predictable actions of the known universe was caused by an accident , That our solar system was caused by an accident, The laws of our universe were caused by an accident, Life was created by an accident, that Evolution was an accident and that every single thing in the Universe had no reason and purpose ! Up Until we came along of course and gave it some meaning ! How illogical can you be !!!!!!!!
Nobody wants you to become an atheist, and personnaly speaking, I let peoples have their own point of view, which isn't your attitude, you don't even allow doubt so that I find somehow quite fascist.
I always oppose peoples which want to impose their point of view, therefore you are the worse God defender.

As well as for the observed trend of belief of God in western societies, I take it as a negative trend as long as morality laws included in religious feelings isn't replaced by high ethic.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20411 Jan 26, 2014
rio wrote:
What is at the origin of evolution?
Answer that instead of being just another pompous a$$.
Question is rather "what is origin of life ?" because origin of evolution rely on changing life conditions, as we know that we live on a changing planet, thus life has to evolve to fit whith changing environment.
trandiode

Adelaide, Australia

#20412 Jan 26, 2014
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
When you have evidence of god, then you get to spread your ridiculous cult fantasy.
The earth simply isn't 3000 years old, there's no such thing as god, and your cut is a joke.
Get over it.
Evolution doesn't have to answer to anybody, because its a fact. You deniers have no evidence against it.
If somebody slapped you with a fossil, you would feel that, because it's that real.
We must care for mentally ill folk like you who deny the world in which they live in and the factual origins of where they came from.
Jim since you seem to be a man of science, there are a few questions I would like to ask you to ease my mind :) By what scientific method do you suggest to use to date fossils and the age of the earth ? As you know there are many that have been proven to have major flaws !, Secondly we know Evolution has had some success but why has it not been proven in human beings, I know and I am sure you are aware that of all the human like looking apes that have been found over the years that not one human bone whatsoever has ever been found in any of them ? Do you think as I do, That instead of having to find one missing link it is more than likely that they would have to find at least a couple of hundred missing links at different stages before they can add man to the list of Evolutionary successes ?
trandiode

Adelaide, Australia

#20413 Jan 26, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody wants you to become an atheist, and personnaly speaking, I let peoples have their own point of view, which isn't your attitude, you don't even allow doubt so that I find somehow quite fascist.
I always oppose peoples which want to impose their point of view, therefore you are the worse God defender.
As well as for the observed trend of belief of God in western societies, I take it as a negative trend as long as morality laws included in religious feelings isn't replaced by high ethic.
I am sorry DonPanic I did not understand your message at all, could you please explain what you mean by High Ethic :)
trandiode

Adelaide, Australia

#20414 Jan 26, 2014
How can I teach you things of heaven when I cant even teach you things of this world ? Come with me, let the Dead bury The dead !

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#20415 Jan 26, 2014
trandiode wrote:
I got it now ! To become an Atheist I have to believe that everything came from nothing,That the Universe itself was an accident, That the universe is full of chaos caused by that accident, That all our galaxies were accidents, that all the predictable actions of the known universe was caused by an accident , That our solar system was caused by an accident, The laws of our universe were caused by an accident, Life was created by an accident, that Evolution was an accident and that every single thing in the Universe had no reason and purpose ! Up Until we came along of course and gave it some meaning ! How illogical can you be !!!!!!!!
Actually, to be an atheist, all you have to do is have a lack of belief in deities.

This isn't that complicated.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20416 Jan 26, 2014
trandiode wrote:
So no one can successfully argue against my point about the theory of Evolution being a sign of a divine planner, I take it ! Insults and vague comments are NOT real arguments they are just a sign of naivety !
If divine planner has to experiment and improve its creatures, as we see considering the tree of evolution that have its dead branches and dead end streets, your so-called divine planner is far from being infallible.
Believing in evolution and thinking that God's labs produced the Neanderlalians, then launched the Cro-magnons because the former model wasn't that satisfying, that's more than naive, that's stupidlidly contradictive with a presumed divine planner.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20417 Jan 26, 2014
trandiode wrote:
I am sorry DonPanic I did not understand your message at all, could you please explain what you mean by High Ethic :)
To me, it's having a sense of good or bad which doesn't rely on some fear of humane or divine trial
rio

Beckenham, UK

#20418 Jan 26, 2014
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
When you have evidence of god, then you get to spread your ridiculous cult fantasy.
The earth simply isn't 3000 years old, there's no such thing as god, and your cut is a joke.
Get over it.
Evolution doesn't have to answer to anybody, because its a fact. You deniers have no evidence against it.
If somebody slapped you with a fossil, you would feel that, because it's that real.
We must care for mentally ill folk like you who deny the world in which they live in and the factual origins of where they came from.
I asked you a simple question and you cannot answer it.

Apart from your aggression, you don't seem to have the intellectual capability to debate on a subject such as belief.

I never pretended that the earth was 3000 years old; I know that the universe is probably millions of years old - that's what the scientists tell us.

But even evolution has an origin; there is no evolution from nothing. That is also a scientific principle.

So, instead of pretending that you are superior and everyone else is stupid,. just answer the simple question; where does it all come from?

I cannot provide you with an evidence of god; I can only communicate my doubts.

But you, who vehemently deny its existence, cannot answer a simple question.
If you cannot, just stop your attacks on people who seek an answer.
You are a fraud...
rio

Beckenham, UK

#20419 Jan 26, 2014
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not the problem of Atheists that you are too ignorant to not know the evidence for evolution.
You can't deny something just because you yourself aren't smart enough.
But many believers and agnostics know about evolution, and that the simplest form of life was probably an amoeba which appeared millions of years ago.

Amoeba from which all other forms of living creatures EVOLVED from.
But where the amoeba cane from?

How inert matter transformed itself in living cells? Where their intelligence came from?
Can you answer that?

Even the origins of the universe cannot only be explained by the big bang.
You cannot have an explosion out of nothing, so where the matter came from?

So, why don't you tell us where it's all come from?
rio

Beckenham, UK

#20420 Jan 26, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
<quoted text>
Question is rather "what is origin of life ?"t.
OK then.

Can you answer that?

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20422 Jan 26, 2014
rio wrote:
OK then.
Can you answer that?
I can't, I can just observe that scientists found spectral signature of plenty prebiotic molecules in space. That some objets, such as cristals or sand roses have the properties grow up such as living being.
We have the prime matters, not the recipe.
Anyhow, just as the "birth" of the Universe is still a mystery, birth of first living creature is a mystery and nor Darwin nor evolutionnists ever intended to explain how life emerged but how it evolved.
Just see that had the scientists taken God as a solution for all unanswered questions, we would still be living in the middle-ages.
EdSed

Wishaw, UK

#20423 Jan 26, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
<quoted text>
In the past times where life expectancy wasn't over 35, religions, whose main promise was a post mortem life in some heaven, made hardness of life bearable.
I guess that eager of many to defend an existence of God is that without any almighty God, gone is any hope of heavenly paradise, of resurection of the corpses.
And then men remain with the deseparate return to dust.
Exactly, religion is a legacy of human development.
No reason to believe we exist after we're dead or before we're born.
And 9/11 and 7/7 would have been possible without belief in an afterlife and religious superstition.

(Sorry for delay in replying. I'm not here often as I've got a life :-)
trandiode

Adelaide, Australia

#20424 Jan 26, 2014
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, to be an atheist, all you have to do is have a lack of belief in deities.
This isn't that complicated.
I think you need more than that ! I would need to have my brain pulled out and then it to be smashed up against a wall then put back in, Hopefully I would have enough brain capacity left to be able not only to survive but to only notice half the things around me and not think half as deep as I do ! Then I think I would fit the requirements you need to be a true Atheist !
rio

Beckenham, UK

#20425 Jan 26, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
<quoted text>
Anyhow, just as the "birth" of the Universe is still a mystery, birth of first living creature is a mystery and nor Darwin nor evolutionnists ever intended to explain how life emerged but how it evolved.
Good, thanks to Darwin, the evolutionists and science in general, we can place the beginning of evolution, and the origins of the universe a lot further back, but we still don't have an answer as to where it all comes from.

So, the atheists may think they are scoring points against the believers, they haven't won the argument yet: they have just changed the timeline, no more.

I don't expect the atheists to prove me wrong during my lifetime ...
Jim

London, UK

#20426 Jan 26, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> Jim since you seem to be a man of science, there are a few questions I would like to ask you to ease my mind :) By what scientific method do you suggest to use to date fossils and the age of the earth ? As you know there are many that have been proven to have major flaws !, Secondly we know Evolution has had some success but why has it not been proven in human beings, I know and I am sure you are aware that of all the human like looking apes that have been found over the years that not one human bone whatsoever has ever been found in any of them ? Do you think as I do, That instead of having to find one missing link it is more than likely that they would have to find at least a couple of hundred missing links at different stages before they can add man to the list of Evolutionary successes ?
Creationist Cult Members, with no evidence of god and no understanding of science , should really stop wasting their time here.

When you become more educated and realise that you evolved, and that you have no evidence against the mountains of evolutionary evidence, then you will stop looking like an idiot.

Cult members who think the earthy is 3000 really have no say in anything because they've chosen to remain dumb.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20427 Jan 26, 2014
trandiode wrote:
what scientific method do you suggest to use to date fossils and the age of the earth ?
All radiodatations means are described there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dati...

As you know there are many that have been proven to have major flaws !
No, all have known range of application and uncertaincy margins
trandiode wrote:
Secondly we know Evolution has had some success but why has it not been proven in human beings, I know and I am sure you are aware that of all the human like looking apes that have been found over the years that not one human bone whatsoever has ever been found in any of them ?
Theses remains of presumed human beings are very rare and partials, specialists often work on bones fragments, pieces of jaw.
trandiode wrote:
Do you think as I do, That instead of having to find one missing link it is more than likely that they would have to find at least a couple of hundred missing links at different stages before they can add man to the list of Evolutionary successes ?
Try to be more precise and say of which man you're talking about, only Sapiens ?
Because Neandertalians were undoubtly humans witch used fire, buryed and presented the dead ones with gifts and took care of the invalids.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#20428 Jan 26, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> I think you need more than that ! I would need to have my brain pulled out and then it to be smashed up against a wall then put back in !
Again?

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#20429 Jan 26, 2014
rio wrote:
So, the atheists may think they are scoring points against the believers, they haven't won the argument yet: they have just changed the timeline, no more.
I don't expect the atheists to prove me wrong during my lifetime ...
Many atheist don't care scoring point against the believers, but against biblists which want the Bible to be a fact book instead of being a jew legendary and wisdom book which cannot have been written much before the fifth century BC
rio

Beckenham, UK

#20430 Jan 26, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
<quoted text>
Many atheist don't care scoring point against the believers, but against biblists which want the Bible to be a fact book instead of being a jew legendary and wisdom book which cannot have been written much before the fifth century BC
Well, I have my opinion about "books of revelations" myself and think they are just religious manifestos written to channel the enthusiasm of the believers of the time.
They don't do anything for me, and apart from mythology and nice fairy tales, I cannot see their relevance now. Sorry guys ...

Looks to me like the atheists are mostly at war against Christians.

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