Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 23869 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Apr 09

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#20113 Jan 8, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> No children are not born Atheists, and their memory of God is still within their spiritual soul because they are young and have not had much time to be brainwashed by the material world ! And Above All, They WILL MOST CERTAINLY ENTER HEAVEN as they have NO SIN ! If you are an Atheist do not pretend to know anything about God because you have not a clue !
LOL…wow.

So, at what age do babies commit their first sin?
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#20114 Jan 8, 2014
CrimeaRiver wrote:
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It doesn't make sense, thats the point. If you truly believed in the power of God you would use prayer to cure all your ills. Why take anti-biotics when prayer can save you? what need is there of that life saving liver transplant when prayer can save you? why put dying children on a life support machine when prayer can save them and they are going to heaven anyway.
You say: "And Above All, They WILL MOST CERTAINLY ENTER HEAVEN as they have NO SIN ! If you are an Atheist do not pretend to know anything about God because you have not a clue ! "
Have you not heard of original sin? All humans are born with sin according to Christians and therefore will not go to heaven unless they are baptised. This was only changed by the last Pope to exclude unbaptised children..... so I ask again, what happened to all those unbaptised children who died before the last pope changed the rules?
Perhaps it is you who should study up on what your faith dictates to you
Simple ! I am not a follower in the Roman Catholic Church ! And some of the reason for me not being a Roman Catholic is because of those very Questions you just asked !
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#20115 Jan 8, 2014
Just Think wrote:
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LOL…wow.
So, at what age do babies commit their first sin?
When they are old enough to understand !

Since: Apr 09

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#20116 Jan 8, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> When they are old enough to understand !
Understand what?

Understand what is inherently wrong?

or

Understand what the guidelines of their parents' particular religion says is wrong?
spider

Cambridge, UK

#20117 Jan 8, 2014
trandiode wrote:
Here is a few questions I would like to ask atheists , a simple yes or no would suffice
1) Do you believe that there is no god whatsoever ?
2) Do you believe that science has all the answers to life, or that eventually they will ?
3) Do you believe that once you die that's it, you exist no more ?
4) do you believe that creation and life was an accident that does not need an answer?
5) do you believe there is nothing outside the physical realm that exists ?
6)Do you believe by the way you think that it has any bearing on how you perceive Life and Death and do you think that it in someway determines your actions thoughts and deeds ?
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No
4. To answers required. Yes to the first part.
Scientists are looking for answers to the second part and I would like to know the answer, as would we all.
5.No
6. That depends on exactly what your asking,, if you require a better answer then we can discuss it. But to simplify I will say No.
jacktheladat1

Sheffield, UK

#20118 Jan 8, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> WHAT THE ? That made sense to you ?
It's but one sentence long, which part presented you with problems?WHICH ONE
spider

Cambridge, UK

#20119 Jan 8, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> When they are old enough to understand !
What your saying here is that there is a point in human life,, where your god has no control what so ever.

What you should have said, is,,, When they are old enough to understand the difference between right and wrong as determined by decent human beings.
CrimeaRiver

UK

#20120 Jan 8, 2014
trandiode wrote:
Here is a few questions I would like to ask atheists , a simple yes or no would suffice
1) Do you believe that there is no god whatsoever ?
2) Do you believe that science has all the answers to life, or that eventually they will ?
3) Do you believe that once you die that's it, you exist no more ?
4) do you believe that creation and life was an accident that does not need an answer?
5) do you believe there is nothing outside the physical realm that exists ?
6)Do you believe by the way you think that it has any bearing on how you perceive Life and Death and do you think that it in someway determines your actions thoughts and deeds ?
You're going to get a plethora of responses, here's mine:

1) I do not believe in an omnipotent creator God and find it hard to believe in any kind of deity

2) Science does not have all the answers yet. But it has answered a great many more questions than religion has. And it answers questions that are relevent whereas religion attempt to tackle irrelevent subjects like "what constitutes a sin"

3) I personally believe that death is death. But I also concede that there is much more anecdotal and physical evidence of life after than of God and Heaven. Again, I would love to know the truth but can't accept without seeing for myself.

It is interesting to note that Christianity is fairly dismissive of Ghosts but expects us to believe in The Father, The Son and The Holy 'Ghost'.

4) I have no idea how the universe began. The Big Bang has offered a scientific approach with is quantifiable but by no means conclusive. The measurable expansion of the universe using gamma waves is something that can be replicated in science. Religion offers no similar quantifiable theory.

5) I do not believe anything exists outside the pysical realm. To believe that is to open ourselves up to all sorts of crackpot ideas that do not eed to be based in reality.

6) The benefits of religion is that it gives us a moral framework to live by. But we can have that without religion in the form of laws. A human charter of universal morality would do exactly the same thing.

I don't live my life any different to religious people. I don't wish harm on others and I don't commit harm to others. I don't abuse children and I don't kill humans (or animals) for fun.

The beauty of not believing in God is that my days are not filled with misguided guilt for supposed sins that I have no control over.

I don't live in constant fear of God becaue i don't believe in God.

That makes me a happier person than most
rio

London, UK

#20121 Jan 8, 2014
CrimeaRiver wrote:
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Now that I 'CAN' understand. You have a personal belief that something greater than yourself is out there. You don't have physical proof, but that doesn't matter because it is your personal belief.
Its the marmite test of religion - some believe / some don't
So you should be able to understand that some simply won't believe - not because they are being belligerent but because they don't have that same deep seated personal belief that you have.
And those who subscribe to an established Religion because they are socialised into it aren't really religious at all. They just don't know any different.
I would gree with all of that.

I understand both religious and atheist folks. It's fanatics who create problems.

Religions have gone beyound beliefs; they are social structures, providing identity and protection to some folks, a goal and motivation to others. They are surrogate for nations or ideologies. This is why I cannot see their power regressing soon, when they are increasingly invoked as the cause of so many conflicts.
rio

London, UK

#20122 Jan 8, 2014
CrimeaRiver wrote:
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I personally believe that death is death. But I also concede that there is much more anecdotal and physical evidence of life after than of God and Heaven. Again, I would love to know the truth but can't accept without seeing for myself.

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That's the sadest thing to me; the possibility that we are nothing, and go back to nothing.
I cling to the idea of after life under some spiritual form.
Without that, life doesn't have much meaning to me.
Thinking

Poole, UK

#20123 Jan 8, 2014
From your flawed premise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absu...
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> You are so illogical in your thinking processes ! How do you manage to come up with such a bizarre conclusion as that ?
CrimeaRiver

UK

#20124 Jan 8, 2014
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
That's the sadest thing to me; the possibility that we are nothing, and go back to nothing.
I cling to the idea of after life under some spiritual form.
Without that, life doesn't have much meaning to me.
when you compare the number of humans to the number of other mammals, fish, arthropods, birds, insects etc etc etc.. we are but a speck in the grand scheme of things.

If we believe that all those other creatures on this earth are born - live - die - and go back to nothing then it isn't so hard to comprehend that humans might suffer the same fate.

But again we will differ here because you will claim that humans have a soul and that makes our lives worthwhile. I on the other hand will say that we have communicable emotions, the power of speech and the power of lateral thought and thats what makes our lives worthwhile.

yep - you guessed it - I don't believe in a soul either.

I believe our purpose on earth is to make our fellow humans happy
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#20125 Jan 8, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> When they are old enough to understand !
So, older than you then?
Thinking

Poole, UK

#20126 Jan 8, 2014
So you will never be able to sin.
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> When they are old enough to understand !
rio

London, UK

#20127 Jan 8, 2014
CrimeaRiver wrote:
<quoted text>
humans have a soul
That's what makes us different from other animal species.

I just cannot see how all these souls go to oblivion.
rio

London, UK

#20128 Jan 8, 2014
CrimeaRiver wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe our purpose on earth is to make our fellow humans happy
Altruism as a reason for life?

Since: Apr 09

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#20129 Jan 8, 2014
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
That's the sadest thing to me; the possibility that we are nothing, and go back to nothing.
I cling to the idea of after life under some spiritual form.
Without that, life doesn't have much meaning to me.
I take the opposite view. Life is full of meaning because it is the only life you will live - make the most of it.
rio

London, UK

#20130 Jan 8, 2014
Just Think wrote:
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I take the opposite view. Life is full of meaning because it is the only life you will live - make the most of it.
Hummmm, for many people, like is meaningless because of the conditions they are in: poverty, conflicts, health conditions, etc...
How would you make their life meaningful?
What's the purpose of keeping them alive?

To me, life is sacred (I use the term loosely) because of the possibility of after life.
CrimeaRiver

UK

#20131 Jan 8, 2014
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
I take the opposite view. Life is full of meaning because it is the only life you will live - make the most of it.
thats sums up my approach better than i could.
CrimeaRiver

UK

#20132 Jan 8, 2014
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Hummmm, for many people, like is meaningless because of the conditions they are in: poverty, conflicts, health conditions, etc...
How would you make their life meaningful?
What's the purpose of keeping them alive?
To me, life is sacred (I use the term loosely) because of the possibility of after life.
people who ar born into poverty or conflict often have no choice but to lead sinful lives to survive. It is impossible to lead a pious existence if you are a child soldier forced into a murederous militia.

Life is sacred - but for some they will forever be stuck in a cycle of depravity and deprivation.

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